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rolexa · 15 February 2010, 04:54 AM

Hi all,

I'm new here...just posted my debut on the new members forum. I inherited a beautiful watch from my grampa..it is a circa 1980s president and it is basically brand new (gold stick dial, fluted bezel, pres bracelet). Only been worn a couple of times for a few hours in total. Anyways, one of the gold stick markers on the dial has fallen off somehow. Does any one know how big a deal it is to fix this? Doesn't look like much but...

also, I'm looking to get a day-date platinum

to add to my collection...may have to sell this one to do that but not sure yet. Going to try my best to avoid that to build the collection but let's face it, these aren't cheap. So I'm wondering what the retail for this watch would have been and how much it would have depreciated even though it is mint and basically brand new?

Idle Swede · 15 February 2010, 05:01 AM

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The price in 1980 was $7,950 and you should be able to get close to that if in mint condition and with all paraphenilia.

Welcome to the forum.

BASSETHOUNDS · 15 February 2010, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Idle Swede

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The price in 1980 was $7,950 and you should be able to get close to that if in mint condition and with all paraphenilia.

Welcome to the forum.

How much for mint with stick fallen of the dial ? No a common model that . Do you think its a good idea to ask for pictures ?

rolexa · 15 February 2010, 05:31 AM

here's a pic folks. it really is mint other than the stick...been kept in my safe over the years (inherited it years ago) and not sure how/why that stick fell off.

Idle Swede · 15 February 2010, 05:33 AM

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The stick is no big deal, any competent watchmaker can pop it back.

rolexa · 15 February 2010, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

How much for mint with stick fallen of the dial ? No a common model that . Do you think its a good idea to ask for pictures ?

not sure what you mean

Idle Swede · 15 February 2010, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexa

not sure what you mean

Can you post a couple of more pictures please?

If it's only been worn a total of a few hours it should like you say be in mint condition.

The lugs however looks like they've been polished which puzzles me.

ESKO · 15 February 2010, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Idle Swede

Can you post a couple of more pictures please?

If it's only been worn a total of a few hours it should like you say be in mint condition.

The lugs however looks like they've been polished which puzzles me.

I don't see the polishing, but yes more pictures are needed.

BASSETHOUNDS · 15 February 2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS
How much for mint with stick fallen of the dial ? No a common model that . Do you think its a good idea to ask for pictures ?

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Originally Posted by rolexa

not sure what you mean

You are still not sure what I meant ?

InVision · 15 February 2010, 09:18 AM

Is this post in the wrong Thread?

Mike

ESKO · 15 February 2010, 05:14 AM

What is a Rolex president? OH..........You mean a Day-Date with a president bracelet!
Just Kidding.
Wow A platinum one!
That is a sweet watch, I tried one on at the AD one day and I loved it, but my wallet didn't love it as much!
Maybe in 10 years!
Congrats on the inheritence. That is a nice watch!
There are a few Watch Makers and other on here who could offer insight on to this!

ANYONE.....................
PLEASE HELP ROLEXA.....................ANYONE????
They'll be along I am sure!

chopperboy · 15 February 2010, 06:34 AM

Questionable Authenticity !

rolexa · 15 February 2010, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chopperboy

Questionable Authenticity !

boy, knowing how my grandfather got this watch I really doubt that but I'd be interested in everybody's opinions in this regard. What makes you think that? Here's some more pics.

ESKO · 15 February 2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexa

boy, knowing how my grandfather got this watch I really doubt that but I'd be interested in everybody's opinions in this regard. What makes you think that? Here's some more pics.

I don't know, someone's going to want to see the clasp in its entirety. front back and all of it. I have seen many fakes with the coronet, but I can't discern if this is the case. I want to put you at ease. I am not picking this apart, in the end it's a damn fine looking watch, but if it isn't real, trust me, you WILL find out in a hurry.

JP500 · 15 February 2010, 06:55 AM

So you're looking to sell this and use the money to help purchase a Platinum presidential?

Please post some more pics so we can get an idea of the condition.

rolexa · 15 February 2010, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JP500

So you're looking to sell this and use the money to help purchase a Platinum presidential?

Please post some more pics so we can get an idea of the condition.

never said that pard...said I may have to to get the watch I want but am trying to do so without selling it.

DSJ · 15 February 2010, 06:56 AM

Definitely need more photos to determine authenticity.

CoopJr · 15 February 2010, 07:23 AM

The fonts on the date and day are already making me nervous. Is it me or is the "U" in "TUESDAY" off kilter?

ESKO · 15 February 2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CoopJr

The fonts on the date and day are already making me nervous. Is it me or is the "U" in "TUESDAY" off kilter?

I can say I don't know much, but my 1964 DD day wheel DOES NOT look like that. I can see the suspicion there. I am not educated enough in all models to know though!

chopperboy · 15 February 2010, 08:16 AM

Allen, Good Catch, But It's Got More Problems Than Just That!

rolexa · 15 February 2010, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chopperboy

Allen, Good Catch, But It's Got More Problems Than Just That!

enlighten me....

ESKO · 15 February 2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chopperboy

Allen, Good Catch, But It's Got More Problems Than Just That!

Please explain.......that is just such an open statement.

rfknauss · 15 February 2010, 08:39 AM

Check the "W" in Swiss ....... looks a bit suspicious to me!

hhh007 · 15 February 2010, 08:49 AM

Here's what I see.................look at the above pic where the day is set to WEDNESDAY. If you enlarge that pic you will see the letters are improperly spaced and crooked and 2 are touching and the letters A and Y font are completely inconsistent with any genuine model I've ever seen. Now if you look down at the date the 2 looks incorrect to me as well as the spacing and magnification. The word ROLEX and others on the dial also look incorrect to me.

chopperboy · 15 February 2010, 09:46 AM

Take A Look At The Font Alignment On Your Date Wheel?????? Very Questionable!

chopperboy · 15 February 2010, 09:54 AM

Take A Look At Your Illumination Dots? They Is No Consistence On How They Are Aligned, Off Centered, And Different Locations Through Alignment!

Idle Swede · 15 February 2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chopperboy

Take A Look At Your Illumination Dots? They Is No Consistence On How They Are Aligned, Off Centered, And Different Locations Through Alignment!

That is not a correct assumption as it depends on the angle of the camera.

I have tons of pictures of my DD's where in one picture the dot is way off and in the next picture spot on.

So far as I've seen the watch is still ok in my eyes.

However I do agree that the bracelet fitting against the case looks off.

CoopJr · 15 February 2010, 10:35 AM

Matt...I say good detective work..bravo.

I'm not trying to insult the OP but he has to be told that many new people come on here with a Rolex and the first red flag is the circumstances in which they received the piece. Usually the explanation given is an inheritance, "Found it in a vault", it was under the sofa cushion in my frat house, my ex girlfriend gave it to me and on and on and on.

Then comes the veiled mention of a sale. I have seen it here with DD's, DJ's, and an 18kt Daytona. The best was a guy with a "Paul Newman" Daytona. The Daytona experts here were on this guy in a New York minute!

After 8 pages of posts, swearing it was real and feigning disgust, he finally came clean...trying to make it look like it was a joke or a test. I beleive this guy was shown the TRF door.

So if this fella is willing to post all pictures he is asked and is willing to withstand intense scrutiny for his answer, than he shall have it.

If he's intent on testing us with a fake or defrauding a member, he'll be uncovered with his pants on the ground in a heartbeat.

JP500 · 15 February 2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CoopJr

Matt...I say good detective work..bravo.

I'm not trying to insult the OP but he has to be told that many new people come on here with a Rolex and the first red flag is the circumstances in which they received the piece. Usually the explanation given is an inheritance, "Found it in a vault", it was under the sofa cushion in my frat house, my ex girlfriend gave it to me and on and on and on.

Then comes the veiled mention of a sale. I have seen it here with DD's, DJ's, and an 18kt Daytona. The best was a guy with a "Paul Newman" Daytona. The Daytona experts here were on this guy in a New York minute!

After 8 pages of posts, swearing it was real and feigning disgust, he finally came clean...trying to make it look like it was a joke or a test. I beleive this guy was shown the TRF door.

So if this fella is willing to post all pictures he is asked and is willing to withstand intense scrutiny for his answer, than he shall have it.

If he's intent on testing us with a fake or defrauding a member, he'll be uncovered with his pants on the ground in a heartbeat.

I agree 1000%. The OP also said he wanted to buy a platinum presidential at some point, though he probably will deny that now.

I've been on enough forums to know exactly how this was going to turn out.

Frankly, I really hope for the OP's sake that he knew the truth about this watch before posting. It would be traumatic to learn that a family heirloom is a knockoff from a bunch of strangers on a forum.

Everything about the watch is wrong. The condition is wrong, the quality is wrong, the story is wrong.

CoopJr · 15 February 2010, 10:36 AM

Nice job too Ralph!

15 February 2010, 04:54 AM	#1
rolexa "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: bc Posts: 13	rolex president Hi all, I'm new here...just posted my debut on the new members forum. I inherited a beautiful watch from my grampa..it is a circa 1980s president and it is basically brand new (gold stick dial, fluted bezel, pres bracelet). Only been worn a couple of times for a few hours in total. Anyways, one of the gold stick markers on the dial has fallen off somehow. Does any one know how big a deal it is to fix this? Doesn't look like much but... also, I'm looking to get a day-date platinum to add to my collection...may have to sell this one to do that but not sure yet. Going to try my best to avoid that to build the collection but let's face it, these aren't cheap. So I'm wondering what the retail for this watch would have been and how much it would have depreciated even though it is mint and basically brand new?

15 February 2010, 05:31 AM	#4
rolexa "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: bc Posts: 13	here's a pic folks. it really is mint other than the stick...been kept in my safe over the years (inherited it years ago) and not sure how/why that stick fell off. Attached Images

15 February 2010, 06:34 AM	#12
chopperboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Florida USA Watch: Rolex Baby!! Posts: 442	Questionable Authenticity ! __________________

15 February 2010, 06:56 AM	#17
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	Definitely need more photos to determine authenticity. __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

15 February 2010, 08:16 AM	#20
chopperboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Florida USA Watch: Rolex Baby!! Posts: 442	Allen, Good Catch, But It's Got More Problems Than Just That! __________________

15 February 2010, 05:01 AM	#2
Idle Swede Suspended Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Leo Location: Boca Raton Posts: 13,820	. The price in 1980 was $7,950 and you should be able to get close to that if in mint condition and with all paraphenilia. Welcome to the forum.

15 February 2010, 05:33 AM	#5
Idle Swede Suspended Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Leo Location: Boca Raton Posts: 13,820	. The stick is no big deal, any competent watchmaker can pop it back.

15 February 2010, 09:18 AM	#10
InVision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: Destin, FL USA Watch: Outerspace DayDate Posts: 2,662	Is this post in the wrong Thread? Mike

15 February 2010, 05:14 AM	#11
ESKO Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Luis Location: Afghanistan/Texas Watch: 2012 Milgauss GV Posts: 752	What is a Rolex president? OH..........You mean a Day-Date with a president bracelet! Just Kidding. Wow A platinum one! That is a sweet watch, I tried one on at the AD one day and I loved it, but my wallet didn't love it as much! Maybe in 10 years! Congrats on the inheritence. That is a nice watch! There are a few Watch Makers and other on here who could offer insight on to this! ANYONE..................... PLEASE HELP ROLEXA.....................ANYONE???? They'll be along I am sure!

15 February 2010, 06:55 AM	#15
JP500 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 221	So you're looking to sell this and use the money to help purchase a Platinum presidential? Please post some more pics so we can get an idea of the condition.

15 February 2010, 07:23 AM	#18
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	The fonts on the date and day are already making me nervous. Is it me or is the "U" in "TUESDAY" off kilter?

15 February 2010, 08:39 AM	#23
rfknauss 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Richard Location: Macungie, PA Watch: 5513 Sub, LV Sub Posts: 14,497	Check the "W" in Swiss ....... looks a bit suspicious to me! __________________ *"Few things in life give man as great a pleasure as wearing a Rolex!"* TRF's "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron

15 February 2010, 08:49 AM	#24
hhh007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Howard Location: Midwest Watch: 18078 Posts: 604	Here's what I see.................look at the above pic where the day is set to WEDNESDAY. If you enlarge that pic you will see the letters are improperly spaced and crooked and 2 are touching and the letters A and Y font are completely inconsistent with any genuine model I've ever seen. Now if you look down at the date the 2 looks incorrect to me as well as the spacing and magnification. The word ROLEX and others on the dial also look incorrect to me.

15 February 2010, 09:46 AM	#25
chopperboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Florida USA Watch: Rolex Baby!! Posts: 442	Take A Look At The Font Alignment On Your Date Wheel?????? Very Questionable! __________________

15 February 2010, 09:54 AM	#26
chopperboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Florida USA Watch: Rolex Baby!! Posts: 442	Take A Look At Your Illumination Dots? They Is No Consistence On How They Are Aligned, Off Centered, And Different Locations Through Alignment! __________________

15 February 2010, 10:35 AM	#28
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	Matt...I say good detective work..bravo. I'm not trying to insult the OP but he has to be told that many new people come on here with a Rolex and the first red flag is the circumstances in which they received the piece. Usually the explanation given is an inheritance, "Found it in a vault", it was under the sofa cushion in my frat house, my ex girlfriend gave it to me and on and on and on. Then comes the veiled mention of a sale. I have seen it here with DD's, DJ's, and an 18kt Daytona. The best was a guy with a "Paul Newman" Daytona. The Daytona experts here were on this guy in a New York minute! After 8 pages of posts, swearing it was real and feigning disgust, he finally came clean...trying to make it look like it was a joke or a test. I beleive this guy was shown the TRF door. So if this fella is willing to post all pictures he is asked and is willing to withstand intense scrutiny for his answer, than he shall have it. If he's intent on testing us with a fake or defrauding a member, he'll be uncovered with his pants on the ground in a heartbeat.

15 February 2010, 10:36 AM	#30
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	Nice job too Ralph!

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