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winged wheel · 17 February 2010, 03:09 AM

Lots of feedback. Not saying it's a fake, but that bezel insert looks odd. Aftermarket??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-OYSTER-DAT...item5886038487

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bayerische · 17 February 2010, 03:35 AM

The dial looks odd, like the text has "bled".

TheBluePrince · 17 February 2010, 03:38 AM

Those end link/lug gaps are huge!

DSJ · 17 February 2010, 03:52 AM

the font, "OYSTER PERPETUAL DATE" seems to be stretched across the dial more than mine.

bayerische · 17 February 2010, 03:56 AM

9 o'clock marker seems crooked.

Earl Camembert · 17 February 2010, 05:55 AM

The pearl is too big for the triangle. Six strikes and you're out.

We should get swag for this. Rolex I know you are there; you use "WatchOut" to learn about your product.

winged wheel · 17 February 2010, 06:50 AM

I just noticed the 12 triangle doesn't line up with the center tine of the crown.

bayerische · 17 February 2010, 06:51 AM

Nodded it.

datejust1 · 17 February 2010, 06:52 AM

Could it be a vintage?

TimeToGo · 17 February 2010, 09:12 AM

houseofzohar ( 2808)

Impressive feedback but not for watches. This is evident by calling this model a 16800.

Watch looks good.

Flaxmoore · 17 February 2010, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

houseofzohar ( 2808)

Impressive feedback but not for watches. This is evident by calling this model a 16800.

Watch looks good.

How so? How are you justifying what the others see as wrong?

TimeToGo · 17 February 2010, 09:34 AM

The original OP is saying he did not think it was a fake. He said the bezel looks odd. = there are some spacing issues BUT that does not make the watch a fake! The bezel may be aftermarket. Another commented the triangle may be too bid... OK then it may be aftermarket.

It is obvious the pictures are odd, possibly scanned?! I do not know, but the pics were taken at diff angles (not head on). The triangle looks off, meaning the the bezel could be turned a smidge and not properly aligned....now could that make the 9'o clock marker off....possibly based on the angle.

The dial looks proper for a late 1980s model.

The endlinks/lug gaps look huge....OK, take a close up picture of ANY watch (or anything for that matter)...you may get the same reaction!

I state MY opinion - which is ..... I think the watch is fine!

idk01 · 17 February 2010, 05:15 PM

This one looks fine, I know why it looks odd, there is a color difference on the gold on these 16803 bezels as per this show from bernard watch & co:

Earl Camembert · 17 February 2010, 05:59 PM

The subject watch, right, has a lower pearl, the short end of the second hand is shorter and the disk is bigger; the 9 font is different.
Well this is how it looks to my old eyes.

idk01 · 17 February 2010, 08:40 PM

Thanks Earl

I may need a heap more coffee :-) I miss my coffee machine.

Check the 12 marker on the dial and the alignment of the coronet, that nine hour marker, the fonts and spacing on the lower half of the dial, this is a hunkus de junkus

Unless someone got to it and did a bad restore

Earl Camembert · 18 February 2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by idk01

Thanks Earl

cjcar631 · 18 February 2010, 06:02 AM

I think Dave is right on the money... "bad restore". This watch is in absolutely horrific condition. You would think the seller would have at least cleaned it up a bit before listing it. Did you see the grunge on the inside of the clasp? I don't know what could have caused those gaps between the lugs and end links! The marker at the 12 position is definitely crooked. The entire dial is a mess. Sad to see what "may" have been a beautiful Rolex at one time left for dead like that. BTW, take a look at the oval on the coronet... looks more like a smilely face... LOL.

17 February 2010, 03:09 AM	#1
winged wheel Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 164	Now that's one BLUE bezel insert!! Lots of feedback. Not saying it's a fake, but that bezel insert looks odd. Aftermarket?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-OYSTER-DAT...item5886038487

17 February 2010, 03:52 AM	#4
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	the font, "OYSTER PERPETUAL DATE" seems to be stretched across the dial more than mine. __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

17 February 2010, 05:15 PM	#13
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	This one looks fine, I know why it looks odd, there is a color difference on the gold on these 16803 bezels as per this show from bernard watch & co: __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

17 February 2010, 08:40 PM	#15
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Thanks Earl I may need a heap more coffee :-) I miss my coffee machine. Check the 12 marker on the dial and the alignment of the coronet, that nine hour marker, the fonts and spacing on the lower half of the dial, this is a hunkus de junkus Unless someone got to it and did a bad restore __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

17 February 2010, 03:35 AM	#2
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	The dial looks odd, like the text has "bled".

17 February 2010, 03:38 AM	#3
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Those end link/lug gaps are huge!

17 February 2010, 03:56 AM	#5
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	9 o'clock marker seems crooked.

17 February 2010, 05:55 AM	#6
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	The pearl is too big for the triangle. Six strikes and you're out. We should get swag for this. Rolex I know you are there; you use "WatchOut" to learn about your product.

17 February 2010, 06:50 AM	#7
winged wheel Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 164	I just noticed the 12 triangle doesn't line up with the center tine of the crown.

17 February 2010, 06:51 AM	#8
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Nodded it.

17 February 2010, 06:52 AM	#9
datejust1 Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: G Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 6,042	Could it be a vintage?

17 February 2010, 09:12 AM	#10
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	houseofzohar ( 2808) Impressive feedback but not for watches. This is evident by calling this model a 16800. Watch looks good.

17 February 2010, 09:34 AM	#12
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	The original OP is saying he did not think it was a fake. He said the bezel looks odd. = there are some spacing issues BUT that does not make the watch a fake! The bezel may be aftermarket. Another commented the triangle may be too bid... OK then it may be aftermarket. It is obvious the pictures are odd, possibly scanned?! I do not know, but the pics were taken at diff angles (not head on). The triangle looks off, meaning the the bezel could be turned a smidge and not properly aligned....now could that make the 9'o clock marker off....possibly based on the angle. The dial looks proper for a late 1980s model. The endlinks/lug gaps look huge....OK, take a close up picture of ANY watch (or anything for that matter)...you may get the same reaction! I state MY opinion - which is ..... I think the watch is fine!

17 February 2010, 05:59 PM	#14
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	The subject watch, right, has a lower pearl, the short end of the second hand is shorter and the disk is bigger; the 9 font is different. Well this is how it looks to my old eyes.

18 February 2010, 06:02 AM	#17
cjcar631 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joseph Location: Massachusetts Watch: Submariner/Date Posts: 366	I think Dave is right on the money... "bad restore". This watch is in absolutely horrific condition. You would think the seller would have at least cleaned it up a bit before listing it. Did you see the grunge on the inside of the clasp? I don't know what could have caused those gaps between the lugs and end links! The marker at the 12 position is definitely crooked. The entire dial is a mess. Sad to see what "may" have been a beautiful Rolex at one time left for dead like that. BTW, take a look at the oval on the coronet... looks more like a smilely face... LOL.

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