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robertneville · 18 February 2010, 12:50 AM

i pray so, i bought it before i found this site. paper serial numbers match the watch. thanks for all of your experts help!!! i am trying to learn!

BASSETHOUNDS · 18 February 2010, 12:53 AM

If you have bought it already , I would suggest to take it to Rolex Service Center or an AD to have it inspected . A bit pointless now to send us pictures of it .

toph · 18 February 2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

If you have bought it already , I would suggest to take it to Rolex Service Center or an AD to have it inspected . A bit pointless now to send us pictures of it .

if its pointless why you answering? The OP has explained already

anyway- to me it looks perfectly fine. The ladies rolex datejust is the only rolex with writing on the caseback except the current milgauss. But if you are uncertain still just pop along to your nearest dealer and they will tell you in less than a mnute

Safetrends · 18 February 2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by toph

if its pointless why you answering? The OP has explained already

anyway- to me it looks perfectly fine. The ladies rolex datejust is the only rolex with writing on the caseback except the current milgauss. But if you are uncertain still just pop along to your nearest dealer and they will tell you in less than a mnute

Incorrect, several Rolex watches have writing on the caseback. look at the Rolex Report and it will give you all the watches that Rolex makes with the caseback markings. I am on the road and if you want I would be happy to give you a list when I get home tonight please PM me at [email protected]
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If you bought the watch, you need to take to an AD and have them check it out, why ask us when it is your possession.

robertneville · 18 February 2010, 01:08 AM

If you bought the watch, you need to take to an AD and have them check it out, why ask us when it is your possession.

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for peace of mind. i really dont care about the money!

toph · 18 February 2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

Incorrect, several Rolex watches have writing on the caseback. look at the Rolex Report and it will give you all the watches that Rolex makes with the caseback markings. I am on the road and if you want I would be happy to give you a list when I get home tonight please PM me at [email protected]
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True. i meant any model that is in mass production. ( ones we are likely to come acoss frequently in the last 20 year sor so) I.E Datejust, Date, Airking, Day-Date, Sub, GMT, Sea dweller, Yachtmaster, explorer 1 & II, Daytona. If someone is buying a rarer piece i am sure they know what they are doing

Safetrends · 18 February 2010, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by toph

True. i meant any model that is in mass production. ( ones we are likely to come acoss frequently in the last 20 year sor so) I.E Datejust, Date, Airking, Day-Date, Sub, GMT, Sea dweller, Yachtmaster, explorer 1 & II, Daytona. If someone is buying a rarer piece i am sure they know what they are doing

When talking about Rolex watches you need to be spot on if not it will cause crossed signals.

robertneville · 18 February 2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by toph

if its pointless why you answering? The OP has explained already

anyway- to me it looks perfectly fine. The ladies rolex datejust is the only rolex with writing on the caseback except the current milgauss. But if you are uncertain still just pop along to your nearest dealer and they will tell you in less than a mnute

thanks for the quick response! i will take it to an AD, just thought id get the experts involved!

ESKO · 18 February 2010, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

If you have bought it already , I would suggest to take it to Rolex Service Center or an AD to have it inspected . A bit pointless now to send us pictures of it .

Why would you say something like that?

robertneville · 18 February 2010, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ESKO

Why would you say something like that?

thanks! that statement did hurt my feelings a little bit. especially since this forum has been so helpful to me and many others.

Safetrends · 18 February 2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ESKO

Why would you say something like that?

Well he did buy it and we cannot say to much after that, now he has to go to AD and get it authenticated or it will be taken away for being a fake. It is simple as that. We are not being rude here we are being true to his question.

toph · 18 February 2010, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

no worries at all!!! this is what forums are for.

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

Well he did buy it and we cannot say to much after that, now he has to go to AD and get it authenticated or it will be taken away for being a fake. It is simple as that. We are not being rude here we are being true to his question.

Well he did state that he is trying to learn, and we all started somwhere. So it is not really of any benefit to tell him its a pointless question. If nobody answered our questions ( even in books) then we would never learn.

robertneville · 18 February 2010, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by toph

no worries at all!!! this is what forums are for.

Well he did state that he is trying to learn, and we all started somwhere. So it is not really of any benefit to tell him its a pointless question. If nobody answered our questions ( even in books) then we would never learn.

Thanks Toph! and ironically i am a professor, but my expertise is computers!

ESKO · 18 February 2010, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

Well he did buy it and we cannot say to much after that, now he has to go to AD and get it authenticated or it will be taken away for being a fake. It is simple as that. We are not being rude here we are being true to his question.

I'll wait for his answer. Why is it you can't say much after the fact? Many post pictures. Many ask for help. doesn't this basically go back to, "If you don't have anything constructive to say, why say anything at all?"
Look Safe, I know I have rubbed a few people the wrong way myself. I understand what he is saying, I think it was a little harsh. A lot of his posts seem this way.

What happened to the big TRF family concept?

What I do agree with, is the fact he told him to go get it checked out at an AD.

In any event I tried to keep my response short and sweet to not ruffle any feathers, the guy is kinda new, lets not welcome him like this.

robertneville · 18 February 2010, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ESKO

I'll wait for his answer. Why is it you can't say much after the fact? Many post pictures. Many ask for help. doesn't this basically go back to, "If you don't have anything constructive to say, why say anything at all?"
Look Safe, I know I have rubbed a few people the wrong way myself. I understand what he is saying, I think it was a little harsh. A lot of his posts seem this way.

What happened to the big TRF family concept?

What I do agree with, is the fact he told him to go get it checked out at an AD.

In any event I tried to keep my response short and sweet to not ruffle any feathers, the guy is kinda new, lets not welcome him like this.

someone said it earlier, this is what forums are for. i have read a lot of posts by safe, and he knows what he is talking about. sometimes being a nooby means getting flamed (or slightly toasted), i am ok with that!

ParisDakarBmw · 18 February 2010, 01:32 AM

From what I see it looks O.K. The movement is very important, as well as the numbers on the case. Let us know when it arrives. We'll help you more from that point with good pics, and such. Good Luck!

robertneville · 18 February 2010, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ParisDakarBmw

From what I see it looks O.K. The movement is very important, as well as the numbers on the case. Let us know when it arrives. We'll help you more from that point with good pics, and such. Good Luck!

thanks Paul and i admire your knowledge on such things. i was a luker here for a long time before i joined. i love some of the Breitlings you have had for sale on here...(i know you had at least one i loved).

BASSETHOUNDS · 18 February 2010, 03:43 AM

Pictures are not good enough , I however doubt the box is original to the watch doesn't make the watch fake . Not over happy how the crown on that clasp looks , then again impossible to tell by that quality of picture . Even then it just could be aftermarket and therefor not mean that the actual watch is a fake . You can try and post some goos close ups of the dial , clasp codes , bracelet number , . Then take off the bracelet and take pictures of what is engraved between the lugs . You can start to compare the documents with that data for yourself .

robertneville · 18 February 2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Pictures are not good enough , I however doubt the box is original to the watch doesn't make the watch fake . Not over happy how the crown on that clasp looks , then again impossible to tell by that quality of picture . Even then it just could be aftermarket and therefor not mean that the actual watch is a fake . You can try and post some goos close ups of the dial , clasp codes , bracelet number , . Then take off the bracelet and take pictures of what is engraved between the lugs . You can start to compare the documents with that data for yourself .

thanks for the advice. i REALLY want to learn how to spot fakes! i am currently in the hospital for a few days (hence why i actually have time to post), and will heed your recommendation when they let me out of here!

Safetrends · 18 February 2010, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by robertneville

thanks for the advice. i REALLY want to learn how to spot fakes! i am currently in the hospital for a few days (hence why i actually have time to post), and will heed your recommendation when they let me out of here!

just watch the posts for fakes and see what we see, you also need to pick up some books on Rolex watches. Use the library here on TRF. I have several Rolex books and I read them all the time. Best of luck!

robertneville · 18 February 2010, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

just watch the posts for fakes and see what we see, you also need to pick up some books on Rolex watches. Use the library here on TRF. I have several Rolex books and I read them all the time. Best of luck!

thanks safe. i have been visiting site several times a day to learn from you masters here at TRF! someone posted the other day, "the devil is in the detail", i agree, but some of these fakes look VERY real! when i got my sub lv (from an AD) i was concerned (for no real reason of course) because it does not weigh near as much as my seamaster! however, i love it way more!!

robertneville · 18 February 2010, 05:44 AM

we were once a very proud franchise, a few world series wins, sadly the last was in '83. long before the days of big money ball. i have had season tickets for 11 years and we have had losing seasons for 11 years! i drive 100 miles each way 29 times a year to see those bums... but i still love 'em, have been to every opening day since 1985!

JP500 · 18 February 2010, 05:44 AM

Those who gave curt answers are 100% right. It is a daily occurrence that someone asks TRF members to verify his watch, with no other interest in the site than to get peace of mind (or lack thereof.)

But, the reason for the frustration goes a bit deeper. All too often, it seems someone thinks he has a great looking fake, and he writes a post to see if the forum readily can tell it's a knock off.

Of course, he can't say this directly because he knows we won't help. So he will make up some story about it being a gift, or purchased by someone who didn't know whether it was real, etc.

This poses a dilemma for members. These would be scammers contribute nothing to the forum and we hate to provide good information to people with bad intentions.

Furthermore, and perhaps what is worst, there is always the possibility that they take whatever we tell them and use it to aid in their scam. IE, we tell someone that the lettering on his dial is crude, then he installs a real one which makes his fake slightly harder to identify when he tries to sell it.

JP500 · 18 February 2010, 05:45 AM

I should add -- someone has a fake and is thinking of selling it as real. That's the scam. Nobody ever bothers to come on here and show off his knock off.

Prince · 18 February 2010, 07:33 AM

I wish we could steer the discussion in this thread away from "fakes".

I know!!!

How about a discussion about JJ and sheep??? Yeah! That's the ticket!!!

goduke1 · 18 February 2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

I wish we could steer the discussion in this thread away from "fakes".

I know!!!

How about a discussion about JJ and sheep??? Yeah! That's the ticket!!!

Hijacker!

Prince · 18 February 2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by goduke1

Hijacker!

Safetrends · 18 February 2010, 07:44 AM

Allan I did not use the F word here.

:jus tkiddi

Don't ban me!

JJ's Sheep.................

Prince · 18 February 2010, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetrends

Allan I did not use the F word here.

:jus tkiddi

Don't ban me!

JJ's Sheep.................

You DO like that photo, don't you David!

Safetrends · 18 February 2010, 07:47 AM

And

18 February 2010, 12:50 AM	#1
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	Help please? is this the real deal? i pray so, i bought it before i found this site. paper serial numbers match the watch. thanks for all of your experts help!!! i am trying to learn! Attached Images

18 February 2010, 05:44 AM	#22
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	we were once a very proud franchise, a few world series wins, sadly the last was in '83. long before the days of big money ball. i have had season tickets for 11 years and we have had losing seasons for 11 years! i drive 100 miles each way 29 times a year to see those bums... but i still love 'em, have been to every opening day since 1985! __________________ Motocross is life!

18 February 2010, 07:33 AM	#25
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	I wish we could steer the discussion in this thread away from "fakes". I know!!! How about a discussion about JJ and sheep??? Yeah! That's the ticket!!! __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

18 February 2010, 07:44 AM	#28
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	Allan I did not use the F word here. :jus tkiddi Don't ban me! JJ's Sheep................. Attached Images

18 February 2010, 07:47 AM	#30
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	And Attached Images

18 February 2010, 12:53 AM	#2
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	If you have bought it already , I would suggest to take it to Rolex Service Center or an AD to have it inspected . A bit pointless now to send us pictures of it .

18 February 2010, 01:08 AM	#5
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	If you bought the watch, you need to take to an AD and have them check it out, why ask us when it is your possession. [/QUOTE] for peace of mind. i really dont care about the money!

18 February 2010, 01:32 AM	#16
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	From what I see it looks O.K. The movement is very important, as well as the numbers on the case. Let us know when it arrives. We'll help you more from that point with good pics, and such. Good Luck!

18 February 2010, 03:43 AM	#18
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Pictures are not good enough , I however doubt the box is original to the watch doesn't make the watch fake . Not over happy how the crown on that clasp looks , then again impossible to tell by that quality of picture . Even then it just could be aftermarket and therefor not mean that the actual watch is a fake . You can try and post some goos close ups of the dial , clasp codes , bracelet number , . Then take off the bracelet and take pictures of what is engraved between the lugs . You can start to compare the documents with that data for yourself .

18 February 2010, 05:44 AM	#23
JP500 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 221	Those who gave curt answers are 100% right. It is a daily occurrence that someone asks TRF members to verify his watch, with no other interest in the site than to get peace of mind (or lack thereof.) But, the reason for the frustration goes a bit deeper. All too often, it seems someone thinks he has a great looking fake, and he writes a post to see if the forum readily can tell it's a knock off. Of course, he can't say this directly because he knows we won't help. So he will make up some story about it being a gift, or purchased by someone who didn't know whether it was real, etc. This poses a dilemma for members. These would be scammers contribute nothing to the forum and we hate to provide good information to people with bad intentions. Furthermore, and perhaps what is worst, there is always the possibility that they take whatever we tell them and use it to aid in their scam. IE, we tell someone that the lettering on his dial is crude, then he installs a real one which makes his fake slightly harder to identify when he tries to sell it.

18 February 2010, 05:45 AM	#24
JP500 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 221	I should add -- someone has a fake and is thinking of selling it as real. That's the scam. Nobody ever bothers to come on here and show off his knock off.

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