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spuds · 3 April 2010, 07:59 AM

Evening Gent's.

I was at my AD's today getting the bracelets on my GMTIIc & Seiko Monster adjusted.

While there I noticed that they (somewhat surprisingly I thought) still have the LV in the window.

Although I'm on the waiting list for a new ceramic Submariner, I'm tempted to buy the LV now simply because I did & do love it (even though I'm really not a fan of the older style clasp) & nobody really knows exactly when the new models will hit the stores & by the time they do it might be too late to get an LV.... & (heaven forbid) but it's possible that I might not even 'fall for' the new ceramic Sub' anyway.

However I'm concerned that if I buy the LV now, & then I DO want the cSub' I'll take a huge loss on the 'flip'.

Any thoughts on what kind of hit I'll take on a current LV when the ceramic Sub's widely available (in the UK) guys??

As ever...... I thank you all for your help.

Johny · 3 April 2010, 08:05 AM

what price the lv?

spuds · 3 April 2010, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

what price the lv?

List (£4070?) BUT I use 'in-store loyalty vouchers' to cover a part of it.

Thing is I've only got 'so many' vouchers to use so if I take a huge loss I'll be swallowing it & making it up in hard cash.

Tools · 3 April 2010, 08:13 AM

If you can purchase with vouchers...and you do not see a better way to turn these vouchers into cash, then using them on a purchase that you could later sell may be a course of action..

However, if you could use the same vouchers for a new ceramic, then you will likely take a loss on the transactions..

The LV may, or it may not, jump or spike like the GMT 16170 did....there are still plenty of them available new...

Johny · 3 April 2010, 08:17 AM

seen them on ebay for a lot less recently. if it is a keeper then buy from an ad.pay the money get all the paperwork original to you.

HL65 · 3 April 2010, 08:12 AM

Don't do it Dan unless you are going to keep it! Unless you can wait till you can get both that is!

spuds · 3 April 2010, 08:20 AM

Thankyou for your replies.

It's real hard to explain but you can trade the vouchers for '4x face value' on certain purchases so I think you guys're right & I'm better off waiting for the new ceramic, so not incurring any losses on a potential (probable?) 'flip'.

Sorry if I've wasted your time Gent's.......
Guess maybe I was just 'thinking aloud' kinda thing.

CoopJr · 4 April 2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spuds

Sorry if I've wasted your time Gent's.......
Guess maybe I was just 'thinking aloud' kinda thing.

No time wasted good buddy! "Thinking out loud" is part of the TRF experience!

I think that if you like your GMTIIc so much, it's a pretty sure bet that you'll like the new ceramic sub too. I say save up for the new one....I am.

spuds · 5 April 2010, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CoopJr

No time wasted good buddy! "Thinking out loud" is part of the TRF experience!

& how very very cool it is to have friends to think aloud with Allan....

harvey · 3 April 2010, 08:24 AM

dan, the lv is a bit of a marmite watch... so that being said, i would think twice before buying... as flipping it later could prove difficult...

i rather buy a watch to keep rather to speculate on later...

spuds · 3 April 2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by harvey

dan, the lv is a bit of a marmite watch... so that being said, i would think twice before buying... as flipping it later could prove difficult...

i rather buy a watch to keep rather to speculate on later...

Excellent!!

Agreed.....

Patience has bever been onea my strong points!

chrisok · 4 April 2010, 05:22 AM

Oh no...i caught this thread kind of late! Im going to go against the others and say get it,esp if its a good deal...im impulsive and bought the LV after lusting after the 16610 for some time(esp loved the LV after finding out you can change the bezel insert). I dont regret the LV,ill keep it no matter what...I want a ceramic sub also,and a gmt,and a pam 104,etc LOL...i'll just have to wait a little longer.
Also,even if you still want the new sub and it even takes a little longer to get after getting the LV..maybe they will be discounting the new subs or be available from one of the sellers here at great prices. Im sure they won't be discounted much when they first come out!

spuds · 4 April 2010, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisok

Oh no...i caught this thread kind of late! Im going to go against the others and say get it,esp if its a good deal...im impulsive and bought the LV after lusting after the 16610 for some time(esp loved the LV after finding out you can change the bezel insert). I dont regret the LV,ill keep it no matter what...I want a ceramic sub also,and a gmt,and a pam 104,etc LOL...i'll just have to wait a little longer.
Also,even if you still want the new sub and it even takes a little longer to get after getting the LV..maybe they will be discounting the new subs or be available from one of the sellers here at great prices. Im sure they won't be discounted much when they first come out!

Cheers Chris mate.......

I just can't get the (current) LV outa my thoughts at the minute & I keep thinking of her pining for me in the window....

chrisok · 5 April 2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by spuds

Cheers Chris mate.......

I just can't get the (current) LV outa my thoughts at the minute & I keep thinking of her pining for me in the window....

Then you must run to her...and hold her in your arms(i mean wrist)..

Good luck Dan!

BMAN8 · 5 April 2010, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisok

Oh no...i caught this thread kind of late! Im going to go against the others and say get it,esp if its a good deal...im impulsive and bought the LV after lusting after the 16610 for some time(esp loved the LV after finding out you can change the bezel insert). I dont regret the LV,ill keep it no matter what...I want a ceramic sub also,and a gmt,and a pam 104,etc LOL...i'll just have to wait a little longer.
Also,even if you still want the new sub and it even takes a little longer to get after getting the LV..maybe they will be discounting the new subs or be available from one of the sellers here at great prices. Im sure they won't be discounted much when they first come out!

X2. Get the LV and order a separate black bezel. You'll have two great, classic, watches in one case. When they're gone (the LV), they're gone.

Good luck!

Nairn1980 · 4 April 2010, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spuds

Evening Gent's.

I was at my AD's today getting the bracelets on my GMTIIc & Seiko Monster adjusted.

While there I noticed that they (somewhat surprisingly I thought) still have the LV in the window.

Although I'm on the waiting list for a new ceramic Submariner, I'm tempted to buy the LV now simply because I did & do love it (even though I'm really not a fan of the older style clasp) & nobody really knows exactly when the new models will hit the stores & by the time they do it might be too late to get an LV.... & (heaven forbid) but it's possible that I might not even 'fall for' the new ceramic Sub' anyway.

However I'm concerned that if I buy the LV now, & then I DO want the cSub' I'll take a huge loss on the 'flip'.

Any thoughts on what kind of hit I'll take on a current LV when the ceramic Sub's widely available (in the UK) guys??

As ever...... I thank you all for your help.

I just bought one today :)
I haggled the AD down to £decent price. I have a great relationship with my AD though. but I thought £3400 was a cracking price.

sunnyp · 5 April 2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nairn1980

I just bought one today :)
I haggled the AD down to £decent price. I have a great relationship with my AD though. but I thought £3400 was a cracking price.

Good deal - which AD was this?

SubKing · 4 April 2010, 06:04 AM

that's $5x00 us... what a great deal... and i thought my deal at 5x25 was un beatable...

is yours a V serial or an M?

Nairn1980 · 4 April 2010, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SubKing

that's $5x00 us... what a great deal... and i thought my deal at 5x25 was un beatable...

is yours a V serial or an M?

it's a "V" plus I got a black bezel ordered too and that was included in the price.

I have a great relationship with my AD. Take them wine, chocolates, really look after them......and it definitely pays. They offer me Daytonas, discounts, anything I want almost :)

spuds · 4 April 2010, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nairn1980

it's a "V" plus I got a black bezel ordered too and that was included in the price.

I have a great relationship with my AD. Take them wine, chocolates, really look after them......and it definitely pays. They offer me Daytonas, discounts, anything I want almost :)

Congrat's on the watch but "wine & chocolates????"

Are you mad??

lol Nairn mate..... but do you think it might also have somthing to do with you being a tad impulsive??

Nairn1980 · 4 April 2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spuds

Congrat's on the watch but "wine & chocolates????"

Are you mad??

lol Nairn mate..... but do you think it might also have somthing to do with you being a tad impulsive??

I am VERY impulsive!
I have woken up on days and thought "im going to change the car" or "im going to find a new house".
I spend half a day or solid price searching etc, but I am a buyer! and I normally buy that day.

In my whole life however ive pretty much never regretted it, If I want something I just go and get it.
I haggle a great deal, but I just go and get it!!

Thats just me :)

OYSTERMANN · 4 April 2010, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

I am VERY impulsive!
I have woken up on days and thought "im going to change the car" or "im going to find a new house".
I spend half a day or solid price searching etc, but I am a buyer! and I normally buy that day.

In my whole life however ive pretty much never regretted it, If I want something I just go and get it.
I haggle a great deal, but I just go and get it!!

Thats just me :)

Like your style, Nairn

rolexsubdate · 4 April 2010, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

....I have a great relationship with my AD. Take them wine, chocolates, really look after them......and it definitely pays. They offer me Daytonas, discounts, anything I want almost :)

guys in prison would really love you ....

shouldn't you be wining and chocolating a pretty girl instead ????

Nairn1980 · 4 April 2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

guys in prison would really love you ....

shouldn't you be wining and chocolating a pretty girl instead ????

Well as I get married in 5 weeks, it looks like I already am......lol

Johny · 4 April 2010, 10:09 PM

well done nairn. watch and wedding! congratulations johny.

Tech_wizard001 · 5 April 2010, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nairn1980

Well as I get married in 5 weeks, it looks like I already am......lol

Congrats on the wedding

and my condolences to your futur watch purchases...lol

once the ring in on the finger you will understand why...

ArcticMoose · 4 April 2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by spuds

While there I noticed that they (somewhat surprisingly I thought) still have the LV in the window.

Every single AD I have been to in the last few weeks has had at least one. In Gothenburg, Sweden they were $6500, in Frankfurt, Germany they were $5400 and now I've seen about 10 of them in Geneva from $5500. It is going to be a long time before there will be any problems getting one.

spuds · 4 April 2010, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ArcticMoose

Every single AD I have been to in the last few weeks has had at least one. In Gothenburg, Sweden they were $6500, in Frankfurt, Germany they were $5400 and now I've seen about 10 of them in Geneva from $5500. It is going to be a long time before there will be any problems getting one.

WOW! I thought (assumed?) they'd be in short(ish?) supply by now....

mascot · 4 April 2010, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticMoose

Every single AD I have been to in the last few weeks has had at least one. In Gothenburg, Sweden they were $6500, in Frankfurt, Germany they were $5400 and now I've seen about 10 of them in Geneva from $5500. It is going to be a long time before there will be any problems getting one.

How much was the price of the LV in Swedish Krona? 49000 KR ?

Thanx!

ArcticMoose · 5 April 2010, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mascot

How much was the price of the LV in Swedish Krona? 49000 KR ?

Actually, now that I think about it, it must have been 57kkr, not 47kkr, but that was without any negotiation at all. I didn't even try, due to the 25% tax. Any price would have been too high, since even with "duty free" shopping you only get about 10% of the total cost back, so it would have been a waste of the AD's time.

I inquired about the Oris Artelier Skeleton at the same time. They called me a few days later quoting $2360, I've seen it from dealers in other countries for as little as $1250.

3 April 2010, 07:59 AM	#1
spuds "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Essex, UK Watch: West Ham! COYI!! Posts: 7,941	Current Submariner LV. Evening Gent's. I was at my AD's today getting the bracelets on my GMTIIc & Seiko Monster adjusted. While there I noticed that they (somewhat surprisingly I thought) still have the LV in the window. Although I'm on the waiting list for a new ceramic Submariner, I'm tempted to buy the LV now simply because I did & do love it (even though I'm really not* a fan of the older style clasp)* & nobody really knows exactly when the new models will hit the stores & by the time they do it might be too late to get an LV.... & (heaven forbid) but it's possible that I might not even 'fall for' the new ceramic Sub' anyway. However I'm concerned that if I buy the LV now, & then I DO want the cSub' I'll take a huge loss on the 'flip'. Any thoughts on what kind of hit I'll take on a current LV when the ceramic Sub's widely available (in the UK) guys?? As ever...... I thank you all for your help. __________________ Onwards & Upwards Rodders...... Onwards & Upwards. Life is not about how fast you can run or how high you can climb........... It's about how well you can bounce!! TRF HALL OF FAME JANUARY 2010

3 April 2010, 08:13 AM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	If you can purchase with vouchers...and you do not see a better way to turn these vouchers into cash, then using them on a purchase that you could later sell may be a course of action.. However, if you could use the same vouchers for a new ceramic, then you will likely take a loss on the transactions.. The LV may, or it may not, jump or spike like the GMT 16170 did....there are still plenty of them available new... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

3 April 2010, 08:12 AM	#6
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,009	Don't do it Dan unless you are going to keep it! Unless you can wait till you can get both that is! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

3 April 2010, 08:20 AM	#7
spuds "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Essex, UK Watch: West Ham! COYI!! Posts: 7,941	Thankyou for your replies. It's real hard to explain but you can trade the vouchers for '4x face value' on certain purchases so I think you guys're right & I'm better off waiting for the new ceramic, so not incurring any losses on a potential (probable?) 'flip'. Sorry if I've wasted your time Gent's....... Guess maybe I was just 'thinking aloud' kinda thing. __________________ Onwards & Upwards Rodders...... Onwards & Upwards. Life is not about how fast you can run or how high you can climb........... It's about how well you can bounce!! TRF HALL OF FAME JANUARY 2010

3 April 2010, 08:24 AM	#10
harvey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rolexforums.com Posts: 5,438	dan, the lv is a bit of a marmite watch... so that being said, i would think twice before buying... as flipping it later could prove difficult... i rather buy a watch to keep rather to speculate on later... __________________ And ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.

3 April 2010, 08:05 AM	#2
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	what price the lv?

3 April 2010, 08:17 AM	#5
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	seen them on ebay for a lot less recently. if it is a keeper then buy from an ad.pay the money get all the paperwork original to you.

4 April 2010, 05:22 AM	#12
chrisok Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Wichita Falls,TX Watch: Rolex,PAM Posts: 525	Oh no...i caught this thread kind of late! Im going to go against the others and say get it,esp if its a good deal...im impulsive and bought the LV after lusting after the 16610 for some time(esp loved the LV after finding out you can change the bezel insert). I dont regret the LV,ill keep it no matter what...I want a ceramic sub also,and a gmt,and a pam 104,etc LOL...i'll just have to wait a little longer. Also,even if you still want the new sub and it even takes a little longer to get after getting the LV..maybe they will be discounting the new subs or be available from one of the sellers here at great prices. Im sure they won't be discounted much when they first come out! Last edited by chrisok; 4 April 2010 at 05:23 AM.. Reason: forgot a word

4 April 2010, 06:04 AM	#18
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	that's $5x00 us... what a great deal... and i thought my deal at 5x25 was un beatable... is yours a V serial or an M? Last edited by Welshwatchman; 4 April 2010 at 08:15 PM..

4 April 2010, 10:09 PM	#25
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	well done nairn. watch and wedding! congratulations johny.

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