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JJ Irani · 7 April 2010, 05:18 AM

Hi guys,

I have learnt from a very reliable source that new SS Sub-dates 16610 are not easy to find in the USA.

If so, I see some kind of pattern emerging here..........the same pattern as that for the GMT-II 16710.

As soon as the Ceramic version came out, the prices and demand for the 16710 shot up.......and today, ironically, the 16710 sells for at least a grand more than its SS Ceramic counterpart.

Wondering if the same will happen with the new Ceramic Sub-date once the initial oohs and aahs die down. Then, all of a sudden, there will be a massive demand for the current 16610.

So........might be a good idea to hang onto your present one.......or grab a new one (or even a mint one) while the going's good.

Call it an intuition, but I might just be right on the button this time.

Good luck all - JJ

Zed82 · 7 April 2010, 05:26 AM

Well i just did! :) Except it was an LV!

JJ Irani · 7 April 2010, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zed82

Well i just did! :) Except it was an LV!

No problems!! I should have mentioned in my post that the price and demand for the LV should go up as well, more so if it is discontinued since Rolex have now come up with the GREEN gold dial model.

JJ

Dr. Jones · 21 June 2010, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zed82

Well i just did! :) Except it was an LV!

I did the same. It was the first time I have ever bought a second Rolex of one I currently own. I love the LV my logic was 20 years down the road I did not want a new untouched LV when they would cost an arm and a leg if you could find one that is.

I bought one now and it was the ADs last one. Now I can use my current LV as the daily beat down watch and in the future I have a back up. My AD said the LV is one of the shortest run watches from Rolex ever 2003 to the start of 2010.

I feel very lucky to own two.

kahoot · 7 April 2010, 05:28 AM

You are right JJ as some people might not like the case size and the weight of the ceramic sub and the demand for the old one might go up, or the basic human nature will start playing it's role when simething is not easily available then it is in high demand.

TerryF · 7 April 2010, 05:32 AM

Im beginning to wonder if JJ doesn't earn commission from all these "suggestions"

JJ Irani · 7 April 2010, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryF

Im beginning to wonder if JJ doesn't earn commission from all these "suggestions"

I wish, buddy, I wish!!

For the amount of Exp-II sales I generated from my review alone, Rolex should be giving me a brand new watch as a token of appreciation!!

TerryF · 7 April 2010, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I wish, buddy, I wish!!

For the amount of Exp-II sales I generated from my review alone, Rolex should be giving me a brand new watch as a token of appreciation!!

Now THAT is just mean, bringing up the EXP-II again....did I hear you say white dial??

Randy · 7 April 2010, 05:36 AM

I agree with you JJ. Lines will be long and AD's only getting one or two new subs.

Esexx · 7 April 2010, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryF

Im beginning to wonder if JJ doesn't earn commission from all these "suggestions"

I think he is actually a Swiss Counter Intellegence Agent disguised as a Kiwi (the farthest away from Geneva) and planted in TRF to "make" people buy more Rolex.

SLA · 7 April 2010, 05:32 AM

JJ- I think you are probably right, but it's hard for us here to objectively know the inventory situation, there are so many ADs. From comments made in other threads there seems to be an adequate supply of the 16610LV at the moment, but that will eventually dry up. For the 16610 I think it's even harder to determine as there always has been a steady demand.

JJ Irani · 7 April 2010, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLA

JJ- I think you are probably right, but it's hard for us here to objectively know the inventory situation, there are so many ADs. From comments made in other threads there seems to be an adequate supply of the 16610LV at the moment, but that will eventually dry up. For the 16610 I think it's even harder to determine as there always has been a steady demand.

I checked with BOTH my ADs here in Auckland. Each of them has just ONE piece of the 16610............both brand new very recent series.......and both should not last too long on their shelves.

JJ

LAJM · 7 April 2010, 05:35 AM

And love it...great watch and forever holding...

DRAWTOOL · 7 April 2010, 05:36 AM

I think you may be right, sheepherder.

Jocke · 7 April 2010, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Hi guys,

I have learnt from a very reliable source that new SS Sub-dates 16610 are not easy to find in the USA.

If so, I see some kind of pattern emerging here..........the same pattern as that for the GMT-II 16710.

As soon as the Ceramic version came out, the prices and demand for the 16710 shot up.......and today, ironically, the 16710 sells for at least a grand more than its SS Ceramic counterpart.

Wondering if the same will happen with the new Ceramic Sub-date once the initial oohs and aahs die down. Then, all of a sudden, there will be a massive demand for the current 16610.

So........might be a good idea to hang onto your present one.......or grab a new one (or even a mint one) while the going's good.

Call it an intuition, but I might just be right on the button this time.

Good luck all - JJ

Is this post a part of your sales techniques when you going to put up your 16610 for sale in about 6 months.

Who did you know that we don't know? Reliable source,

There is millions of them out there my friend.

May we call you JJ The Hype Irani now?

Just calm down and enjoy your watches and don't try to bring fancies in the minds of the people here.

Jackxv · 7 April 2010, 05:46 AM

Most of the times I agree with you JJ but not on this one.

From the SS LV the first issued (real anniversary) the NIB will we sought after.
From the 16610 the "Swiss" dial (1998) will become sought after and maybe the tritium ones, Swiss only were produced the shortest period.

Jack

JJ Irani · 7 April 2010, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

Is this post a part of your sales techniques when you going to put up your 16610 for sale in about 6 months.

Who did you know that we don't know? Reliable source,

There is millions of them out there my friend.

May we call you JJ The Hype Irani now?

Just calm down and enjoy your watches and don't try to bring fancies in the minds of the people here.

Hey tosser,

I have based my post on facts. 16610's are increasingly hard to find in the USA as well as other parts of the world. See the post of the guy just above me.

Give it another 6 months and I'll prove that what I have said today is true.

JJ

Jocke · 7 April 2010, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Give it another 6 months and I'll prove that what I have said today is true.

JJ

I will remeber this line.

And you can remember this: Is this post a part of your sales techniques when you going to put up your 16610 for sale in about 6 months.

JJ Irani · 7 April 2010, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

I will remeber this line.

And you can remember this: Is this post a part of your sales techniques when you going to put up your 16610 for sale in about 6 months.

My 16610 was a gift from Bubba......it will eventually go down to my grandson, Ronan!!

kahoot · 7 April 2010, 05:42 AM

Here in uk the dealers are giving six months waiting time as they are not getting many since the start of 2010 as I have asked a few main Rolex dealers.

JJ Irani · 7 April 2010, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahoot

Here in uk the dealers are giving six months waiting time as they are not getting many since the start of 2010 as I have asked a few main Rolex dealers.

More proof of my prediction, guys!!

Jocke · 7 April 2010, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

More proof of my prediction, guys!!

Proof and Rolex sales strategy is not the same.

If I say my dealer have 20 of them for sale, is that proof they are easy to get?

:r ofl:

JJ Irani · 7 April 2010, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

Proof and Rolex sales strategy is not the same.

If I say my dealer have 20 of them for sale, is that proof they are easy to get?

:r ofl:

Time will tell, buddy.........and I will be proved right.

Just look at the number of GMT-II 16710 that are floating around. But can you get one at a reasonable price today?

JJ

scooba · 8 April 2010, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahoot

Here in uk the dealers are giving six months waiting time as they are not getting many since the start of 2010 as I have asked a few main Rolex dealers.

Are you sure i collected one at £3200 bnib from my local AD , they seamed to thin there were plenty around

kahoot · 8 April 2010, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooba

Are you sure i collected one at £3200 bnib from my local AD , they seamed to thin there were plenty around

which dealer is giving it for 3200 brand new I might go and get one tomorrow

JJ Irani · 8 April 2010, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooba

Are you sure i collected one at £3200 bnib from my local AD , they seamed to thin there were plenty around

That is a very good price!!

PeterT · 7 April 2010, 05:45 AM

I ordered a new 16610 at Christmas and picked it up on Saturday. It came with the new mixed number and letter serial. It is for my son's 18th, next year.
I have already seen the identical watch with the latest serial sell on Ebay for approx £300 more than I paid.

Peter

JJ Irani · 7 April 2010, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

..........watch with the latest serial sell on Ebay for approx £300 more than I paid.

Peter

There you go, guys.........Q.E.D.

Congrats on your acquisition, Peter - good move!!

R1@160@alltimes · 7 April 2010, 01:26 PM

I'm banking on you, JJ

rolexcd · 8 April 2010, 12:44 PM

I agree with JJ's comments. I heard that the after-discounted price in Hong Kong has gone up 5% already from grey dealers. I am lucky enough to buy one with V9 serial. However, I would really like to have one with the "funny" new serial but unable to source one at discount.

7 April 2010, 05:18 AM	#1
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	A word of advice: Grab the SS Sub-date 16610 while you can!! Hi guys, I have learnt from a very reliable source that new SS Sub-dates 16610 are not easy to find in the USA. If so, I see some kind of pattern emerging here..........the same pattern as that for the GMT-II 16710. As soon as the Ceramic version came out, the prices and demand for the 16710 shot up.......and today, ironically, the 16710 sells for at least a grand more than its SS Ceramic counterpart. Wondering if the same will happen with the new Ceramic Sub-date once the initial oohs and aahs die down. Then, all of a sudden, there will be a massive demand for the current 16610. So........might be a good idea to hang onto your present one.......or grab a new one (or even a mint one) while the going's good. Call it an intuition, but I might just be right on the button this time. Good luck all - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

7 April 2010, 05:35 AM	#13
LAJM "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Larry Location: Canada Watch: Explorer II Posts: 270	Just bought one last week....V version And love it...great watch and forever holding...

7 April 2010, 05:46 AM	#16
Jackxv "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 969	Most of the times Most of the times I agree with you JJ but not on this one. From the SS LV the first issued (real anniversary) the NIB will we sought after. From the 16610 the "Swiss" dial (1998) will become sought after and maybe the tritium ones, Swiss only were produced the shortest period. Jack

7 April 2010, 01:26 PM	#29
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	I'm banking on you, JJ __________________

7 April 2010, 05:26 AM	#2
Zed82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Zlatan Location: Sweden Posts: 357	Well i just did! :) Except it was an LV!

7 April 2010, 05:28 AM	#5
kahoot "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: uk Posts: 425	You are right JJ as some people might not like the case size and the weight of the ceramic sub and the demand for the old one might go up, or the basic human nature will start playing it's role when simething is not easily available then it is in high demand.

7 April 2010, 05:32 AM	#6
TerryF Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Terry Location: Pretoria Watch: GMT Master Posts: 261	Im beginning to wonder if JJ doesn't earn commission from all these "suggestions"

7 April 2010, 05:36 AM	#9
Randy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Randy Location: Ohio Watch: AP, Rolex, Panerai Posts: 1,241	I agree with you JJ. Lines will be long and AD's only getting one or two new subs.

7 April 2010, 05:32 AM	#11
SLA "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GMT-8 Watch: 14060M, 116520 Posts: 153	JJ- I think you are probably right, but it's hard for us here to objectively know the inventory situation, there are so many ADs. From comments made in other threads there seems to be an adequate supply of the 16610LV at the moment, but that will eventually dry up. For the 16610 I think it's even harder to determine as there always has been a steady demand.

7 April 2010, 05:42 AM	#20
kahoot "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: uk Posts: 425	Here in uk the dealers are giving six months waiting time as they are not getting many since the start of 2010 as I have asked a few main Rolex dealers.

7 April 2010, 05:45 AM	#27
PeterT "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: England Watch: 16613 16710 16600 Posts: 1,021	I ordered a new 16610 at Christmas and picked it up on Saturday. It came with the new mixed number and letter serial. It is for my son's 18th, next year. I have already seen the identical watch with the latest serial sell on Ebay for approx £300 more than I paid. Peter

8 April 2010, 12:44 PM	#30
rolexcd Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Anthony Location: China / Australia Watch: Daytona SS Black D Posts: 318	I agree with JJ's comments. I heard that the after-discounted price in Hong Kong has gone up 5% already from grey dealers. I am lucky enough to buy one with V9 serial. However, I would really like to have one with the "funny" new serial but unable to source one at discount.

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