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Old 13 April 2010, 02:31 AM   #1
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Hello forum members,
I'm new to the forum,and i hope if you guys can help me out.
I have a submariner 1680 238xxxx and i belive it is circa 1967.

however the dial was replaced in the 80's due damage and wear, my dial is a
"WHITE" submariner,and i do not remember if the original was "red" or not.

My questions is was "ROLEX" making "WHITES" AND "REDS" in 1967?

Can i find out from the serial no. if mine was "red"?

Is there a diffirence in value in a vintage 1967 "reds" and "whites"?

i'll appriciate any help on the matter.
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Old 13 April 2010, 04:57 AM   #2
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Welcome to TRF, it's a great place
I cannot help you with your 1680.
However, there's tremendous wealth of information on here. I'm sure one of TRF's savant will have the answer you need.
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Old 13 April 2010, 05:11 AM   #3
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The first 1680s through 1973 were "red".
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Old 13 April 2010, 05:33 AM   #4
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The first release of the red dial in 1967 (the earliest serial known to the author is 2,02X,XXX) and featured the “200 meters/600 ft” dial.

Above text copy pasted from www.doubleredseadweller.com
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Old 13 April 2010, 05:39 AM   #5
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Your White 1680 with a Red serial is worth more than a standard White 1680. You can source a period correct Red 1680 dial, though they are not cheap.
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Old 13 April 2010, 05:48 AM   #6
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Agreed, Its all in the serial number.congrats.
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Old 13 April 2010, 05:49 AM   #7
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With that serial I think it would be 68/69, and red meters first dial.
There is a dial on the market for that serial range going for $5000 usd right now.
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Old 13 April 2010, 06:08 AM   #8
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As stated, that serial number is a RED.
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Old 13 April 2010, 04:46 PM   #9
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Thank you guys for the warm welcome,and the help and knowledge.
This forum is class act.

Do you think it is worth to invest in a "red" dial, since my watch was probebly originaly "red"?

will it's value increase the same as the cost of a dial? [4k-5k]
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I wouldn't hesitate to put a correct dial in it at all.
And yes, it would be worth that investment to have the correct dial, IMHO.
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Old 13 April 2010, 04:32 PM   #11
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Thank you forum members,for the warm greetings and the help.
It seems this forum is class act.
In your opinion, is it worth to invest in a "red" dial to my watch since it was probebly "red" originally? is it worth the extra money and increasing it's worth?
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Old 14 April 2010, 10:25 PM   #12
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Thank you forum members,for the warm greetings and the help.
It seems this forum is class act.
In your opinion, is it worth to invest in a "red" dial to my watch since it was probebly "red" originally? is it worth the extra money and increasing it's worth?
G.
Adding a proper RED dial would certainly add to the value of the watch, but it would be important to get the correct dial for the era.

Here's a bit of information to help with the correct dial for the serial number range.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=30759
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Old 15 April 2010, 02:57 AM   #13
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Thank you Mike for the info.
Just so i'll get it right..from what i figured out is that i should look for
a RED dial- meters first for my watch?
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Old 15 April 2010, 04:00 AM   #14
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Thank you Mike for the info.
Just so i'll get it right..from what i figured out is that i should look for
a RED dial- meters first for my watch?
Guy.
I would lean toward a meters first, but there's no exact science. That serial number puts it late 69 to me. Rolex change over is famous. Definately open 6's if you went feet first, but I think meters first would be more appropriate.
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Old 15 April 2010, 06:57 AM   #15
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I hope i'm not mistaken here, but by checking ROLEX serial no.
it showed me 1967-2163900
1968-2426800
1969-2689700
My watch is 238xxxx so i presumed it is 1967
Is that wrong?
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Old 15 April 2010, 07:25 AM   #16
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Serial numbers are not an exact science, but close. What date is the caseback stamped? I'm guessing with that serial you are closer to 68-69.
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