111 vs 112 ??

[chrisok]

You guys helped me decide on the 111 as my next watch...and am totally satisfied with that decision(watch has not been purchased yet,my source is looking for one now)...is the 112 my next logical step in the event i can't find a 111 in the condition and price i want??
I know the main differences are the second hand and the 112 is approx $500 less expensive,and the 112 appears to come with a black instead of calf leather band....but are there any other differences to speak of? Movement wise are they both similar? Im kind of movement-knowledge challenged...I think the 111 has an in-house movement(i hope this is right).
Should i wait for a 111? or could i safely add a 112 to the list if i can live without the seconds hand?

Thanks again!

[Speed]

If you don't care about the second hand, consider the 111. If you don't care about the transparent caseback, consider the 000. It has the PAM logo on the Sausage Dial.

[chrisok]

I do like the transparent case back and the sandwich dial...these are very strong points to me,the second hand is not that strong of a point! I like the second hand,but i could live without it.
Bill,its your pictures that started all this, so im expecting your help!!

[Psmith]

Simply put they are the same watch, minus the second hand on the 112.

None of the Luminor Base or Luminor Marina models use in-house movements. They are ETA movements that have been reworked by Panerai (nothing wrong with that). Models with second hands are COSC certified.

My pick would be a 111 or 005 (the 005 has a solid caseback). Losing the second hand is a bit too 'base' for me.



Cheers

[Trurolexer]

If you like second hand, go for 111, if you don't go for 112. Both winner. Good luck.

[niels74]

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

If you like second hand, go for 111, if you don't go for 112. Both winner. Good luck.

im with Heru here, cant go wrong , my pick would be the 112, just purely for the base sammie dail , more is less :-) the crystal caseback is a plus and i do enjoy the hand wind movement of it.

good luck

[Speed]

Is this helping Chris???

Seriously, 111,112 you cannot go wrong. Just a matter of taste and pricing & availability. I would also insist on all the boxes, papers, and bits. That's just me.

[chrisok]

Thanks for the replies! Sounds like I can't go wrong either way,really. I hope to show you all some pics of what i end up with in the next week or two!

[Carlo Miguel]

111 for me then maybe the 005 for a cleaner look

[chrisok]

Originally Posted by Speed

Is this helping Chris???

Seriously, 111,112 you cannot go wrong. Just a matter of taste and pricing & availability. I would also insist on all the boxes, papers, and bits. That's just me.

Those pics are the ones that did it... Im really hoping to find BNIB,or mint with all the stuff! Thanks for the tips,Bill!

[Cru Jones]

To me, as a complete PAM outsider, the 3rd hand adds just a tiny bit of flair to the 111. In a good way.

I like the brushed look of the 177, too, but am nervous about the titanium's scratch resistance. To be fair, though, the polished steel case of the 111 makes me nervous, too, but slightly less so. Oh, for a brushed steel case 111.

[stockae92]

to me, i want the the small second hand to tell me that the watch is still running. and i want the display back so that i can stare at back (movement) as much as i do to the dial. LOL

and of course, the sandwitch looks fantastic, especially when viewing the dial from an angle. it adds an extra dimension to the dial.

that's why i went with 111

[Reneo]

Go for the 112 E-F-G painted dials, more historic ;-)

[johnswatch]

I was in a similar situation.

I went for the 112 as i think it looks just that little bit cleaner and more classic than the 111.

Regarding the seconds hand - you don't need it. Being late for meetings is usually a better indicator that your watch has stopped rather than hoping you might notice a seconds hand.

[rolexcd]

I would go for the 111 since the second hand tells me that the watch is working!!!

[ronin7]

Faced the same dillema,when i first lusted after a pam11 none could be found for love or money.Decided to go for the IWC spitfire chrono which is on my wrist as i type this.When i got the pam bug again in 2008 ,the pam111 was so rare and the premiums were just to much to justify.I settled on the pam112,but soon fell out of love with it.the lack of the seconds hand really began to bug me.In the end i sold it and purchased a Breitling chronomat evolution which is just perfect in every way.Still hanker for the pam111 and hope to have one when funds allow.I suppose the moral of my story is ..PATIENCE!!

[chrisok]

Thanks all for your advice,im gonna hold out for a 111,unless a smokin deal on a 112 comes along....i understand needing to have patience but i need to do this in the next few weeks.
My son goes to college this year and this will be my last splurge for a LONG time...and just as soon as he finishes college,my next son will be going,and as soon as he finishes,my next son will be going

[andrew79]

My choice is 111....simple, nice... that's what a Pam should be. Logo makes it a little bit busy for me. For me second hand needed, for me to look if the watch is working or not... good luck mate.

[sakuraba]

Going by Bill's pic's I'd go with the 111.

[chrisok]

Hopefully i'll know next week,which one im getting! Just depends on which one my source finds the best deal on,also condition,etc. Its gonna be a long wait... but i should be able to join you all soon!!!!

[esm]

look forward to seeing your pix Chris!

[chrisok]

Well,at least while the forum was down i got to concentrate on my Pam purchase,and i had quite an interesting time! I decided on a 111 but had some trouble finding one(esp for what i wanted to pay)..so i went for the 112,had a deal locked up within $50 of what i wanted to pay but the the seller decided they needed to call me back when i said i'll take it at that price,then he said they were out and he would find another and call me right back! After 48 hours i called someone else about a 112 and they offered me a K serial 111 BNIB at a lower price than i originally wanted to pay! YAHOO!!
It will be here today!

[karmatp]

Originally Posted by chrisok

Well,at least while the forum was down i got to concentrate on my Pam purchase,and i had quite an interesting time! I decided on a 111 but had some trouble finding one(esp for what i wanted to pay)..so i went for the 112,had a deal locked up within $50 of what i wanted to pay but the the seller decided they needed to call me back when i said i'll take it at that price,then he said they were out and he would find another and call me right back! After 48 hours i called someone else about a 112 and they offered me a K serial 111 BNIB at a lower price than i originally wanted to pay! YAHOO!!
It will be here today!

Good for you Chris, you will love your 111. I have been thinking about a 177, kinda keeping my eyes open for a solid deal. I used to have a 176 but sold it because I wanted a 177, then I ended up buying something different, probably a Rolex, I don't remember.

I look forward to the pics, early congrats.

[esm]

Originally Posted by chrisok

Well,at least while the forum was down i got to concentrate on my Pam purchase,and i had quite an interesting time! I decided on a 111 but had some trouble finding one(esp for what i wanted to pay)..so i went for the 112,had a deal locked up within $50 of what i wanted to pay but the the seller decided they needed to call me back when i said i'll take it at that price,then he said they were out and he would find another and call me right back! After 48 hours i called someone else about a 112 and they offered me a K serial 111 BNIB at a lower price than i originally wanted to pay! YAHOO!!
It will be here today!

awesome news Chris.

can we see some pix?

[chrisok]

Thanks Trevor and Eric...ill snap some pics when i get home. My son just called and said it came,so it is at the house and im stuck at work til 7...i should have left him a car so he could bring it to me

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by chrisok

Well,at least while the forum was down i got to concentrate on my Pam purchase,and i had quite an interesting time! I decided on a 111 but had some trouble finding one(esp for what i wanted to pay)..so i went for the 112,had a deal locked up within $50 of what i wanted to pay but the the seller decided they needed to call me back when i said i'll take it at that price,then he said they were out and he would find another and call me right back! After 48 hours i called someone else about a 112 and they offered me a K serial 111 BNIB at a lower price than i originally wanted to pay! YAHOO!!
It will be here today!

Congrats Chris


Looking forward to the pics




Cheers

[chrisok]

Couldn't take it!! Left work and went home to get the package! These aren't the best pics because im using the work camera!
Here it goes! and I really like this watch!

[Psmith]

Congrats again Chris - looks great!






Cheers

[bcacncnc]

congrats chris!