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R_Lui · 15 June 2010, 03:38 AM

Hello,

I was wondering if any one knows which is better...

Rolex Explorer 2

or

Omega 300 M GMT

and why is it better?

Kanger · 15 June 2010, 04:01 AM

Explorer II is better... but I'm biased because I own a EXP II. The movement beats faster at 28800 per hour, while the co axial on the Omega makes the beat movement slower, therefore the sweep is less smooth. Both are great watches as Omegas are VERY accurate, but I love the EXP II look.

DWdrummer · 15 June 2010, 04:27 AM

Im an Omega lover myself and I dont care for the Omega GMT myself.

I would much prefer the Exp II out of those two choices.

icnbne · 15 June 2010, 04:29 AM

Ahh. Hard choice..
I can't decide.. Both beautiful watches..
Yeah.. I can't decide

nauticajoe · 15 June 2010, 04:41 AM

Both great watches, but would probably lean more towards the Exp.

Happy Hunting!

sturgeon123456 · 15 June 2010, 04:56 AM

Tough choice. I'd go explorer. I am a rolex and omega owner so I like to think I am making an unbiased decision. Here are the reasons why

In house rolex movement

That's it. No other reason other than that I can think of.

avekat · 15 June 2010, 05:03 AM

I see no reason for which one is significantly better than the other, so i would say choose the one you think looks best.

My choice would be the explorer.

Mystro · 15 June 2010, 05:11 AM

Both are fine watches and in the same league. Buy what look you like best.

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Rolex always wins!

Tools · 15 June 2010, 07:00 AM

Of course the Rolex Explorer II is "better"..

. Full balance bridge vs a half cock in the Omega

. 31 jewel movement vs only 23 in the Omega

. Larger balance wheel, more mass more stability.

. solid fixed bezel vs insert and ring that may come off on the Omega

. screw links with 1/8" studs vs. pins half that size on the Omega.

. White gold hands and surrounds vs. steel and paint on the Omega

. The worlds best watch service organization........

RXPete · 15 June 2010, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Of course the Rolex Explorer II is "better"..

. Full balance bridge vs a half cock in the Omega

. 31 jewel movement vs only 23 in the Omega

. Larger balance wheel, more mass more stability.

. solid fixed bezel vs insert and ring that may come off on the Omega

. screw links with 1/8" studs vs. pins half that size on the Omega.

. White gold hands and surrounds vs. steel and paint on the Omega

. The worlds best watch service organization........

-Machined and more substantial clasp on the omega vs stamped steel on the Rolex

-Solid end links on the Omega vs hollow on the Rolex

-Solid center links on the Omega vs hollow on the Rolex

These are the reasons I haven't purchased the Explorer II yet. The bracelet feels very cheap for a $5000 watch. I'm hoping it will be improved on the redesign -- something like the milgauss.

Regards,

Peter

Andad · 16 June 2010, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Of course the Rolex Explorer II is "better"..

. Full balance bridge vs a half cock in the Omega

. 31 jewel movement vs only 23 in the Omega

. Larger balance wheel, more mass more stability.

. solid fixed bezel vs insert and ring that may come off on the Omega

. screw links with 1/8" studs vs. pins half that size on the Omega.

. White gold hands and surrounds vs. steel and paint on the Omega

. The worlds best watch service organization........

I agree with Larry, except for the 1/8" studs.

Chipmunk · 17 June 2010, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Of course the Rolex Explorer II is "better"..

. Full balance bridge vs a half cock in the Omega

. 31 jewel movement vs only 23 in the Omega

. Larger balance wheel, more mass more stability.

. solid fixed bezel vs insert and ring that may come off on the Omega

. screw links with 1/8" studs vs. pins half that size on the Omega.

. White gold hands and surrounds vs. steel and paint on the Omega

. The worlds best watch service organization........

That says it all.

TheVTCGuy · 15 June 2010, 07:02 AM

Larry pretty much nailed it, the Omega is an outstanding watch, but Rolex is just one step better.

chris russell · 15 June 2010, 07:04 AM

Aqua Terra, it would be a closer fight.

Hooper · 15 June 2010, 08:40 AM

Explorer all the way baby !!

flathead59 · 15 June 2010, 09:30 AM

Extremely subjective. I have been hunting for the watch I want, in the most inefficient manner possible. I've bought watches I thought were what I wanted until I wore them for a while, then I sell those and try again. I started out with Omega, then had a chance to pick up a 16710 GMT Master II. I have an Omega 300m GMT that I'm wearing until it gets back from service. When it does, the Omega will probably go on the block. I just bought an Explorer II to wear in rotation with the 16710, it should be here tomorrow. They are essentially the same watch, except for the bezel.

Better? Don't know. I do know that I like the size and wearing characteristics of the Rolex better. To me it just looks "right", what ever that means. I'm sure this doesn't help, but it's part of my therapy

.

Mark

Perdu · 15 June 2010, 11:37 AM

I choose the Explorer for the 3135/3136 movement. But, I don't complain about having one of these either. Mine is super accurate. It is thicker and heavier than the Rolex, so try them both on.

bret440 · 15 June 2010, 11:55 AM

I don't have an EXP2 but I do have an Omega 2535.80 GMT. The Seamaster is really a dive watch with a GMT function. It has a 300M rating. It also has a unidirectional rotating bezel. The 24hr scale is on the dial instead of on the bezel. It really is a versatile piece. It also has a display caseback. The EXP2 by comparison has a 100M rating. The bezel is fixed and has a 24hr scale engraved on it. It is a dedicated GMT watch without the typical divers features.

padi56 · 16 June 2010, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perdu

I choose the Explorer for the 3135/3136 movement. But, I don't complain about having one of these either. Mine is super accurate. It is thicker and heavier than the Rolex, so try them both on.

Think you mean the cal 3185 or 3186

Denver Dick · 16 June 2010, 03:41 AM

All very interesting. Both are excellent watches. The Explorer II is a great watch and I considered buying one. I also considered buying a 36mm Explorer. However, here's how I ended up seeing it.

Rolex Explorer II (assuming I could find an AD and get a discount):
MSRP $5,925 less 10% = $5,332.50

Omega 300M GMT (Ref. 2234.50) (purchased from AD in Dec. 2009):
MSRP $2,680 less 30% = $1,876.00

Omega 39mm Railmaster (Ref. 2503.52) (purchase from AD in Mar. 2010)
MSRP $3,250 less 30% = $2,275.00

Omega Speedmaster Date (Ref. 3210.50) (purchased from AD in Apr. 2010)
MSRP $3,150 less 30% = $2,205.00

So, I got any two of the above Omegas for well under the price of an Explorer II. However, another way to look at it is that I acquired all three of the lovely Omegas above for only $1,020.50 more than one Explorer II.

Now, if I didn't already have my Rolex TT DJ 16013 that I purchased new in 1987 and just had refurbished by the RSC in PA last November, I might feel different, but from my position, the Omegas made real sense . . . as in dollars and cents.

Ebruner · 15 June 2010, 11:51 AM

Rolex wins everyday, and twice on Sunday!!!

-Eddie

acce1999 · 16 June 2010, 03:38 AM

My choice is the ExII. Actually I picked it twice :-).

The Omega is very nice. I wouldn't use the word "better" to describe any of them. They both have their benefits.

Best,

A

SSSS · 16 June 2010, 08:14 AM

Just curious but which one has better resale? I would think with a new version next year, the EXP II should do well in the future, but how do Omegas do in the resale market?

DanteBrandolini · 16 June 2010, 08:19 AM

Rolex Baby!!!!!!!!!!

Roselló · 16 June 2010, 08:29 AM

My choice would be the Explorer II all the way

.

gmh1013 · 16 June 2010, 09:06 AM

I have an Omega Elec blue Seamaster and its one of my fav's ....have it own right now.
Over a months time it keep better time than my GMT Pepsi by 15 seconds or so.
My BIGGEST complaint is the non adjusting bracelet ....in the summer here in AZ
gain about a link in size

Perdu · 16 June 2010, 11:28 AM

No Padi, I meant the Omega.

Eric88 · 16 June 2010, 02:27 PM

I like Omega & Rolex!

JJ Irani · 19 June 2010, 06:13 PM

I have owned a few OMEGAs in the past and have admired them for their quality and accuracy.

The only gripe I have against them is the use of those pins and sleeves to hold the links together instead of solid screws like in the Rolex bracelets.

What I also fail to understand is how such a large conglomerate like OMEGA cannot switch to screws in order to make life easier for the ADs and us for easy link changes and adjustments.

JJ

15 June 2010, 03:38 AM	#1
R_Lui Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Robert Location: London - UK Watch: Rolex GMT Master 2 Posts: 31	Rolex VS Omega Hello, I was wondering if any one knows which is better... Rolex Explorer 2 or Omega 300 M GMT and why is it better?

15 June 2010, 04:29 AM	#4
icnbne "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: J Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Omega Seiko Posts: 1,562	Ahh. Hard choice.. I can't decide.. Both beautiful watches.. Yeah.. I can't decide __________________ https://www.instagram.com/invites/co...ontent=5yeough

15 June 2010, 06:39 AM	#9
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15 June 2010, 07:00 AM	#10
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Of course the Rolex Explorer II is "better".. . Full balance bridge vs a half cock in the Omega . 31 jewel movement vs only 23 in the Omega . Larger balance wheel, more mass more stability. . solid fixed bezel vs insert and ring that may come off on the Omega . screw links with 1/8" studs vs. pins half that size on the Omega. . White gold hands and surrounds vs. steel and paint on the Omega . The worlds best watch service organization........ __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

15 June 2010, 07:04 AM	#15
chris russell Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Peterborough, ON Watch: your mouth. Posts: 1,023	Between those 2, I'd choose the Rolex. Now, if you were comparing the Omega... Aqua Terra, it would be a closer fight.

15 June 2010, 04:01 AM	#2
Kanger Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: North Carolina Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 5,524	Explorer II is better... but I'm biased because I own a EXP II. The movement beats faster at 28800 per hour, while the co axial on the Omega makes the beat movement slower, therefore the sweep is less smooth. Both are great watches as Omegas are VERY accurate, but I love the EXP II look.

15 June 2010, 04:27 AM	#3
DWdrummer Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 954	Im an Omega lover myself and I dont care for the Omega GMT myself. I would much prefer the Exp II out of those two choices.

15 June 2010, 04:41 AM	#5
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Both great watches, but would probably lean more towards the Exp. Happy Hunting!

15 June 2010, 04:56 AM	#6
sturgeon123456 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 2,551	Tough choice. I'd go explorer. I am a rolex and omega owner so I like to think I am making an unbiased decision. Here are the reasons why In house rolex movement That's it. No other reason other than that I can think of.

15 June 2010, 05:03 AM	#7
avekat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Denmark Posts: 9	I see no reason for which one is significantly better than the other, so i would say choose the one you think looks best. My choice would be the explorer.

15 June 2010, 05:11 AM	#8
Mystro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,511	Both are fine watches and in the same league. Buy what look you like best.

15 June 2010, 07:02 AM	#14
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	Larry pretty much nailed it, the Omega is an outstanding watch, but Rolex is just one step better.

15 June 2010, 08:40 AM	#16
Hooper "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Tony Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: 16610 Posts: 3,290	Explorer all the way baby !!

15 June 2010, 09:30 AM	#17
flathead59 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 349	Extremely subjective. I have been hunting for the watch I want, in the most inefficient manner possible. I've bought watches I thought were what I wanted until I wore them for a while, then I sell those and try again. I started out with Omega, then had a chance to pick up a 16710 GMT Master II. I have an Omega 300m GMT that I'm wearing until it gets back from service. When it does, the Omega will probably go on the block. I just bought an Explorer II to wear in rotation with the 16710, it should be here tomorrow. They are essentially the same watch, except for the bezel. Better? Don't know. I do know that I like the size and wearing characteristics of the Rolex better. To me it just looks "right", what ever that means. I'm sure this doesn't help, but it's part of my therapy. Mark

15 June 2010, 11:37 AM	#18
Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	I choose the Explorer for the 3135/3136 movement. But, I don't complain about having one of these either. Mine is super accurate. It is thicker and heavier than the Rolex, so try them both on. __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

15 June 2010, 11:55 AM	#19
bret440 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 5	Seamaster GMT 2535.80 I don't have an EXP2 but I do have an Omega 2535.80 GMT. The Seamaster is really a dive watch with a GMT function. It has a 300M rating. It also has a unidirectional rotating bezel. The 24hr scale is on the dial instead of on the bezel. It really is a versatile piece. It also has a display caseback. The EXP2 by comparison has a 100M rating. The bezel is fixed and has a 24hr scale engraved on it. It is a dedicated GMT watch without the typical divers features.

16 June 2010, 03:41 AM	#21
Denver Dick "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Wayne Location: Ventura County CA Watch: TT DateJust 16013 Posts: 428	All very interesting. Both are excellent watches. The Explorer II is a great watch and I considered buying one. I also considered buying a 36mm Explorer. However, here's how I ended up seeing it. Rolex Explorer II (assuming I could find an AD and get a discount): MSRP $5,925 less 10% = $5,332.50 Omega 300M GMT (Ref. 2234.50) (purchased from AD in Dec. 2009): MSRP $2,680 less 30% = $1,876.00 Omega 39mm Railmaster (Ref. 2503.52) (purchase from AD in Mar. 2010) MSRP $3,250 less 30% = $2,275.00 Omega Speedmaster Date (Ref. 3210.50) (purchased from AD in Apr. 2010) MSRP $3,150 less 30% = $2,205.00 So, I got any two of the above Omegas for well under the price of an Explorer II. However, another way to look at it is that I acquired all three of the lovely Omegas above for only $1,020.50 more than one Explorer II. Now, if I didn't already have my Rolex TT DJ 16013 that I purchased new in 1987 and just had refurbished by the RSC in PA last November, I might feel different, but from my position, the Omegas made real sense . . . as in dollars and cents. __________________ Rolex DateJust 16013 Omega Railmaster 2503.52

15 June 2010, 11:51 AM	#22
Ebruner "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Eddie Location: Kentucky Watch: 118208 Posts: 2,510	Rolex wins everyday, and twice on Sunday!!! -Eddie __________________

16 June 2010, 03:38 AM	#23
acce1999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GMT+1 Posts: 2,711	My choice is the ExII. Actually I picked it twice :-). The Omega is very nice. I wouldn't use the word "better" to describe any of them. They both have their benefits. Best, A

16 June 2010, 08:14 AM	#24
SSSS "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 198	Just curious but which one has better resale? I would think with a new version next year, the EXP II should do well in the future, but how do Omegas do in the resale market?

16 June 2010, 08:19 AM	#25
DanteBrandolini Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Dante Location: New York City Watch: Rolex What Else? Posts: 82	Rolex Baby!!!!!!!!!!

16 June 2010, 08:29 AM	#26
Roselló "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SA, Texas. Watch: * { SD & DJ } * Posts: 943	My choice would be the Explorer II all the way .

16 June 2010, 09:06 AM	#27
gmh1013 Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: greg Location: Tempe AZ Watch: GMT Posts: 5,703	I have an Omega Elec blue Seamaster and its one of my fav's ....have it own right now. Over a months time it keep better time than my GMT Pepsi by 15 seconds or so. My BIGGEST complaint is the non adjusting bracelet ....in the summer here in AZ gain about a link in size

16 June 2010, 11:28 AM	#28
Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	No Padi, I meant the Omega. __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

16 June 2010, 02:27 PM	#29
Eric88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 88 keys Posts: 2,241	I like Omega & Rolex!

19 June 2010, 06:13 PM	#30
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	I have owned a few OMEGAs in the past and have admired them for their quality and accuracy. The only gripe I have against them is the use of those pins and sleeves to hold the links together instead of solid screws like in the Rolex bracelets. What I also fail to understand is how such a large conglomerate like OMEGA cannot switch to screws in order to make life easier for the ADs and us for easy link changes and adjustments. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

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