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aeRolex · 30 June 2010, 03:13 PM

Was browsing this forum and thought I'd ask for member's opinions on the following...

I'm about to pick up a new SS Daytona (2nd new purchase) arriving this week at my local AD. I asked my sales rep. to find me one and he did within 2 months or so. As mentioned, I have purchased a SS Daytona and a YG Presidential from the same sales rep./AD about 10 years ago.

The older Zenith SS Daytona was never serviced and it was a daily watch for me. When I inquired for service along with a new bracelet etc., I was quoted close to $2K. In a nutshell, I sold my SS Daytona and made $900.

I was open and told my sales rep. that I would like to purchase a new SS Daytona asap. because I was going to sell my old one.

Yesterday, he called and said he had one arriving this week but I would need to pay for it in full (done) before he would confirm it was mine. Secondly, he is REQUIRING that he engrave my initials on the back casing as well. Obviously he is trying to guard against me turning around and selling it. I told I don't mind as I have no intention of selling it anytime soon, but am I foolish to agree to the engraving?

Pix · 30 June 2010, 03:21 PM

Yes you would be foolish!

Speed · 30 June 2010, 03:22 PM

Welcome to TRF!

Wow. If true, what an outlandish / outrageous thing for your AD to suggest.

I would NEVER, EVER, EVER agree to such a thing. I would tell that AD from whom you purchased before that he / she can keep that Daytona.

I think engravings - while not for me - might suit some folks who are sentimental. This engraving is some sort of police action from an AD who thinks of a repeat customer like you as a criminal.

Who the H*ll is he. YOU are the customer and can do whatever you want with the watch. If you wanted to pay him for it and then immediately throw it on the ground, bash it with a Ball Peen Hammer and light it on fire, that is your prerogative!!!

Runaway...

C. Davidson · 30 June 2010, 03:28 PM

If you say "yes" to the engraving, thats up to you. But if you agree to those terms, than thats the deal. If you dont want it engraved, then pass on it. At the moment, there are many willing to get an engraved Daytona engraved versus no Daytona at all.

sleddog · 30 June 2010, 03:28 PM

Welcome to TRF..!

Glad you found this wonderfull site......

Now...I have NEVER heard of such a request from an AD....That is obsurd!!

I would phone them tomorrow and tell them NOT to engrave it or they can just keep it.....What are they thinking?? Do they ask this of all their customers??

aeRolex · 30 June 2010, 03:38 PM

Thanks for all the input and the warm welcome. I hope to be able to contribute to the forum with what little knowledge I have of Rolex watches.

I did agree to it and I'll stick to it, but I will also ask him to reconsider. I actually consider the sales rep. a friend and was surprised. I'm not sure if it's his call or Corporate.

I feel naked without it.

JUSTROLEXES · 30 June 2010, 03:47 PM

Welcome to TRF,
It is ok to pay for it in advance since 99% of the times the watch will follow in a week or so...not to say it's in the back office's safe.
BUT Sure it not crazzzy

to ask for the engravings and I would pass on the deal if that is the case.
I have never hear such a thing before

SLS · 30 June 2010, 06:09 PM

Ben Bridge Tactics. Tell them that you will buy the watch, but they are not to engrave YOUR watch.
Scott

mike · 30 June 2010, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLS

Ben Bridge Tactics. Tell them that you will buy the watch, but they are not to engrave YOUR watch.
Scott

AMEN! If you want to sell it as some as you get or give it away it's none of their business.

Johny · 30 June 2010, 09:17 PM

hi ask how long the no sell on period is and will they then replace the caseback at the end of this period.

Johny · 1 July 2010, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

hi ask how long the no sell on period is and will they then replace the caseback at the end of this period.

you caved....well you can still ask this question. it was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek but now it has some relevence.

Andad · 30 June 2010, 06:30 PM

This is very strange. The case back can be easily changed and would not be a deterrent for someone who intended to sell it. I would explain this to your 'friend' and ask him why he is being so STUPID.

InVision · 30 June 2010, 09:20 PM

No !!!

train-time · 30 June 2010, 09:38 PM

NO!!!!! That is totally absurd. Pass on it and get your $$$$ back -- They are way too easy to come by these days!

MortgageGuy · 1 July 2010, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by train-time

NO!!!!! That is totally absurd. Pass on it and get your $$$$ back -- They are way too easy to come by these days!

x1000

toolr · 30 June 2010, 10:04 PM

Go to another AD, they're not that hard to find anymore.

gregmoeck · 30 June 2010, 10:07 PM

yeah pass on it, you dont want to engrave it. You can get another one. We can point you to a few people who can get one and probably a lot cheaper.

nauticajoe · 30 June 2010, 10:45 PM

Welcome.
I wouldn't go with the engraving requirement. That's ridiculous. The guy already has your money!

psv · 30 June 2010, 11:44 PM

Don't believe what the AD is telling you about Daytonas. They are available if you look around and you can get pretty good deals on new V-series ones here on TRF.

There is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL I would let an AD dictate would I should do with my watch. Ask to speak to the store manager and voice your discontent and inform them that you'll slam them on the internet boards.

Watch Professor · 1 July 2010, 12:00 AM

Absolutely NO!!! It reduces the value of the watch and is highly insulting to you. Look on our sales corner and you will find very recent Daytonas with no engraving sold by reputable dealers.

Idle Swede · 1 July 2010, 12:05 AM

This was common practice a few years ago when the Daytona was hard to find.

Today I would tell him to stick it somewhere.

Roley · 1 July 2010, 12:27 AM

Unacceptable for an AD to require you to engrave your initials on your purchase. None of his business what you do with your watch!... Definitely decrease the value. (NUTS!) (Lookin like a fool with his pants on the ground!)

chris russell · 1 July 2010, 12:04 AM

turd thinks he has doesn't exist. Second, you could order a new back from any RSC anyway. Third, this new 'requirement' this moron is trying to spring on you was not part of the original agreement, and is probably illegal. Fifth, where does the airhole park his car?

Rolesor · 1 July 2010, 12:33 AM

That is complete BS and I can guarantee Rolex would not be happy to hear he is requiring a customer to "deface" a watch!

I am in no way against engraving but when it's being forced upon you that is insane!! Just so you can have the "privilege" or paying 10 grand for a watch.. I'd tell him to %^&* off!

DSJ · 1 July 2010, 01:10 AM

I'd say no and find a nice example here on TRF.

First ones I found:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=133181
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=133403
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=132023
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=132116

VincentVega · 1 July 2010, 01:25 AM

I think you should agree to the engraving IF he/she is willing to give you a large discount. Use it as leverage. If you don't really mind the engraving, you might as well act like it's a burden to you to try to get the best deal.

On the other hand, if this AD is fairly certain he/she can sell it later, your plan may backfire. He/she might just have a "take it or leave it attitude", in which case, I agree with others - take it if it really doesn't bother you, leave it if you plan on selling it anytime soon.

nickriebe · 1 July 2010, 01:40 AM

Tell them they can engrave it if the watch is free! What a bunch of BS!

DRAWTOOL · 1 July 2010, 01:44 AM

I wouldn't mind my initials engraved on the back, however requiring me to do so as a condition of purchase would promp me to tell said AD to take a flying Philidelphia at a rolling do-nut!

Tools · 1 July 2010, 02:12 AM

Hmmmm..

I don't know.. Is this a professional engraving for free ?? If so, that's kind of cool and at one time was considered a "perk" for buying an up-scale piece.. ..

It would definitely help identify it if it is taken/lost at some point.

If it's just him and a dremel, not so good..

I wouldn't be concerned about this... engravings are easy to take off (nobody would ever know), and casebacks are easy to replace.........

Captainz · 1 July 2010, 02:37 AM

Another stupid "HYPE" building scheme. Kinda reminds me of new home builders and their lottery system.

Dude, walk away and never deal with this type of Salesperson.

Al

30 June 2010, 03:13 PM	#1
aeRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: bay area Posts: 10	AD requisite for initials Was browsing this forum and thought I'd ask for member's opinions on the following... I'm about to pick up a new SS Daytona (2nd new purchase) arriving this week at my local AD. I asked my sales rep. to find me one and he did within 2 months or so. As mentioned, I have purchased a SS Daytona and a YG Presidential from the same sales rep./AD about 10 years ago. The older Zenith SS Daytona was never serviced and it was a daily watch for me. When I inquired for service along with a new bracelet etc., I was quoted close to $2K. In a nutshell, I sold my SS Daytona and made $900. I was open and told my sales rep. that I would like to purchase a new SS Daytona asap. because I was going to sell my old one. Yesterday, he called and said he had one arriving this week but I would need to pay for it in full (done) before he would confirm it was mine. Secondly, he is REQUIRING that he engrave my initials on the back casing as well. Obviously he is trying to guard against me turning around and selling it. I told I don't mind as I have no intention of selling it anytime soon, but am I foolish to agree to the engraving?

30 June 2010, 03:28 PM	#4
C. Davidson "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: WXSW Watch: GMT (116710) Posts: 2,723	If you say "yes" to the engraving, thats up to you. But if you agree to those terms, than thats the deal. If you dont want it engraved, then pass on it. At the moment, there are many willing to get an engraved Daytona engraved versus no Daytona at all. __________________ -Cheers, Chris #15,634 "The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge; the ears of the wise seek it out."

30 June 2010, 03:28 PM	#5
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	Welcome to TRF..! Glad you found this wonderfull site...... Now...I have NEVER heard of such a request from an AD....That is obsurd!! I would phone them tomorrow and tell them NOT to engrave it or they can just keep it.....What are they thinking?? Do they ask this of all their customers?? __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

30 June 2010, 03:47 PM	#7
JUSTROLEXES ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Tony Geha Location: San Diego, CA Watch: Yacht-Master Posts: 51,125	Welcome to TRF, It is ok to pay for it in advance since 99% of the times the watch will follow in a week or so...not to say it's in the back office's safe. BUT Sure it not crazzzy to ask for the engravings and I would pass on the deal if that is the case. I have never hear such a thing before __________________ Instagram @JustRolexes 2FA security active

30 June 2010, 06:09 PM	#8
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Ben Bridge Tactics. Tell them that you will buy the watch, but they are not to engrave YOUR watch. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

30 June 2010, 03:21 PM	#2
Pix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: midwest Watch: SS Datejust Posts: 1,288	Yes you would be foolish!

30 June 2010, 03:22 PM	#3
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Welcome to TRF! Wow. If true, what an outlandish / outrageous thing for your AD to suggest. I would NEVER, EVER, EVER agree to such a thing. I would tell that AD from whom you purchased before that he / she can keep that Daytona. I think engravings - while not for me - might suit some folks who are sentimental. This engraving is some sort of police action from an AD who thinks of a repeat customer like you as a criminal. Who the H*ll is he. YOU are the customer and can do whatever you want with the watch. If you wanted to pay him for it and then immediately throw it on the ground, bash it with a Ball Peen Hammer and light it on fire, that is your prerogative!!! Runaway...

30 June 2010, 03:38 PM	#6
aeRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: bay area Posts: 10	Thanks for all the input and the warm welcome. I hope to be able to contribute to the forum with what little knowledge I have of Rolex watches. I did agree to it and I'll stick to it, but I will also ask him to reconsider. I actually consider the sales rep. a friend and was surprised. I'm not sure if it's his call or Corporate. I feel naked without it.

30 June 2010, 09:17 PM	#10
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	hi ask how long the no sell on period is and will they then replace the caseback at the end of this period. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

30 June 2010, 06:30 PM	#12
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,534	This is very strange. The case back can be easily changed and would not be a deterrent for someone who intended to sell it. I would explain this to your 'friend' and ask him why he is being so STUPID. __________________ E

30 June 2010, 09:20 PM	#13
InVision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: Destin, FL USA Watch: Outerspace DayDate Posts: 2,662	No !!!

30 June 2010, 09:38 PM	#14
train-time 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Plankton Location: US Watch: less Posts: 4,161	NO!!!!! That is totally absurd. Pass on it and get your $$$$ back -- They are way too easy to come by these days!

30 June 2010, 10:04 PM	#16
toolr 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northwest Posts: 1,369	Go to another AD, they're not that hard to find anymore.

30 June 2010, 10:07 PM	#17
gregmoeck "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maui Watch: Patek Posts: 2,032	yeah pass on it, you dont want to engrave it. You can get another one. We can point you to a few people who can get one and probably a lot cheaper.

30 June 2010, 10:45 PM	#18
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Welcome. I wouldn't go with the engraving requirement. That's ridiculous. The guy already has your money!

30 June 2010, 11:44 PM	#19
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	Don't believe what the AD is telling you about Daytonas. They are available if you look around and you can get pretty good deals on new V-series ones here on TRF. There is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL I would let an AD dictate would I should do with my watch. Ask to speak to the store manager and voice your discontent and inform them that you'll slam them on the internet boards.

1 July 2010, 12:00 AM	#20
Watch Professor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Myron Location: New York Watch: GMT IIC; Sub Date Posts: 3,166	Absolutely NO!!! It reduces the value of the watch and is highly insulting to you. Look on our sales corner and you will find very recent Daytonas with no engraving sold by reputable dealers.

1 July 2010, 12:05 AM	#21
Idle Swede Suspended Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Leo Location: Boca Raton Posts: 13,820	This was common practice a few years ago when the Daytona was hard to find. Today I would tell him to stick it somewhere.

1 July 2010, 12:27 AM	#22
Roley "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Roland Location: GMT -4:00 Today Watch: Enthusiast Posts: 874	Unacceptable for an AD to require you to engrave your initials on your purchase. None of his business what you do with your watch!... Definitely decrease the value. (NUTS!) (Lookin like a fool with his pants on the ground!)

1 July 2010, 12:04 AM	#23
chris russell Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Peterborough, ON Watch: your mouth. Posts: 1,023	Wow. First of all, SS Daytonas are no longer in short supply, so the 'leverage' this turd thinks he has doesn't exist. Second, you could order a new back from any RSC anyway. Third, this new 'requirement' this moron is trying to spring on you was not part of the original agreement, and is probably illegal. Fifth, where does the airhole park his car?

1 July 2010, 12:33 AM	#24
Rolesor "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Brandon Location: Toronto, ON Watch: 116234 Posts: 4,150	That is complete BS and I can guarantee Rolex would not be happy to hear he is requiring a customer to "deface" a watch! I am in no way against engraving but when it's being forced upon you that is insane!! Just so you can have the "privilege" or paying 10 grand for a watch.. I'd tell him to %^&* off! __________________ 116234 - Blue Concentric Dial - Fluted Bezel - Oyster Bracelet Tudor Black Bay 54 - Rubber Strap

1 July 2010, 01:10 AM	#25
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	I'd say no and find a nice example here on TRF. First ones I found: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=133181 http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=133403 http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=132023 http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=132116 __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

1 July 2010, 01:25 AM	#26
VincentVega Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: USA Posts: 29	I think you should agree to the engraving IF he/she is willing to give you a large discount. Use it as leverage. If you don't really mind the engraving, you might as well act like it's a burden to you to try to get the best deal. On the other hand, if this AD is fairly certain he/she can sell it later, your plan may backfire. He/she might just have a "take it or leave it attitude", in which case, I agree with others - take it if it really doesn't bother you, leave it if you plan on selling it anytime soon.

1 July 2010, 01:40 AM	#27
nickriebe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Nick Location: 3026'23N 8638'41W Watch: out for pirates! Posts: 692	Tell them they can engrave it if the watch is free! What a bunch of BS! __________________ ~Nick Riebe~

1 July 2010, 02:12 AM	#29
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Hmmmm.. I don't know.. Is this a professional engraving for free ?? If so, that's kind of cool and at one time was considered a "perk" for buying an up-scale piece.. .. It would definitely help identify it if it is taken/lost at some point. If it's just him and a dremel, not so good.. I wouldn't be concerned about this... engravings are easy to take off (nobody would ever know), and casebacks are easy to replace......... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

1 July 2010, 02:37 AM	#30
Captainz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Aldo Location: Left Coast Watch: All of them Posts: 879	Another stupid "HYPE" building scheme. Kinda reminds me of new home builders and their lottery system. Dude, walk away and never deal with this type of Salesperson. Al __________________ "The Rolex Sickness is Great, when your support group is TRF!" -CZ

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