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imposs · 19 February 2007, 03:49 AM

New to forum - I've always worn Omegas but am considering a Rolex.

Please help me with a few questions -

I understand the differences btw AD and GM for Omega - are they basically the same for Rolex?

www.essential-watches.com - what are your experiences with them?

Rolex bezels - what are the differences among old/new fluted bezels and engine turned bezels?

Thanks!

kings4sap · 19 February 2007, 04:43 AM

Welcome -

Do some searching on prior threads. There has been a lot of recent discussion re: EW. They appear legit and there has been nothing negative noted.

K4S

JJ Irani · 19 February 2007, 05:01 AM

Hi and welcome to TRF.

OMEGAs are excellent value for the money you pay out for them. Besides, an OMEGA can be had for fabulous discounts, but make sure you decide to keep the watch. Resale on an OMEGA is a killer unlike Rolex which holds its value much better.

Both are excellent watches - if you can't decide, just have one of each and that should make you very happy!!

Cheers and good luck.

JJ

imposs · 19 February 2007, 08:39 AM

can you please answer my question Re: Rolex bezel types -

old/new fluted
engine turned....

thx!

JJ Irani · 19 February 2007, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imposs

can you please answer my question Re: Rolex bezel types -

old/new fluted
engine turned....

thx!

A FLUTED bezel on any Rolex DJ or DD is always made of precious metal - NEVER steel.

So you could have a WG fluted bezel or a YG fluted bezel. The older ones too were always either WG or YG.

The engine turned bezel could be had as an option on the SS DJs instead of the smooth polished bezel.

In any case, the engine turned bezel was always made of steel - never a precious metal. This kind of bezel has now been discontinued on all the latest DJs with the new style broader case. These new DJs are now available either with the smooth, polished SS/YG bezel or the WG/YG fluted one.

Hope that just about covers what you wanted to know, my friend.

Cheers - JJ

imposs · 19 February 2007, 12:27 PM

JJ -

Thanks for that info!

So, of course I have another question. What year were the engine-turned bezels discontinued?

I ask because I am planning to purchase my "entry" Rolex (SS ladies datejust) from a grey market dealer(likely essential watches), and there are different bezel options. I don't want to buy a watch that's discontinued.

How can I determine what year the watch was made?

tonelar · 3 March 2007, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

The newer fluted bezels are a wee bit wider on the new style DJs.
JJ

As is the new datejust case, right? The new model DJs with the solid link bracelets appear thicker to me.

This is a lovely watch... Imposs.

Welcome to the forum.

JJ Irani · 3 March 2007, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonelar

As is the new datejust case, right? The new model DJs with the solid bracelets appear thicker to me.

Yes, Tony, definitely thicker at the lugs....although case diameter is still the same - 36 mm.

Here ya go....new one on the left, old one on the right!!

JJ

mailman · 3 March 2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonelar

As is the new datejust case, right? The new model DJs with the solid bracelets appear thicker to me.

I believe the cases are the same thickness as the old ones Tony. The lugs are thicker giving the appearance of a thicker case.

tonelar · 3 March 2007, 12:12 PM

Thanks guys... so it's only thicker out at the lug ends... doesn't stand up off your wrist any higher...

They did a great thing actually 'cause of the biiig watch craze, they manage to punch the DJ up a notch without actually increasing it's overall dimensions.

Alex Stylianou · 3 March 2007, 05:34 PM

Welcome To TRF.

leopardprey · 3 March 2007, 10:34 PM

Man, I like those new Datejusts!!!!!!!!

Ragu · 3 March 2007, 11:13 PM

I wish the DJ were increased to 40mm as I'd be tempted on a TT one.

Blue Bull · 4 March 2007, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragu

I wish the DJ were increased to 40mm as I'd be tempted on a TT one.

Couldnt agree more.40mm or even 42-44mm would have been awesome !!

The max size of 36mm prevents me from ever buying a DJ.Thas a shame ..

Prince · 4 March 2007, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragu

I wish the DJ were increased to 40mm as I'd be tempted on a TT one.

Personally, I like the smaller size of my DJ for dressier occasions. I have tried one of my larger watches with a suit, and for ME, its just too large and doesn't work. JMHO...

leopardprey · 4 March 2007, 01:53 AM

"I wish the DJ were increased to 40mm as I'd be tempted on a TT one."

Just get a TT Sub. Remove the bezel. Fill in the small pin hole. Then polish up and around the dial. Now you have a 40mm Sub date!

fitter_happier · 4 March 2007, 10:27 AM

What year did this new DJ debut?

JJ Irani · 4 March 2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitter_happier

What year did this new DJ debut?

Not very sure, but it could have been 2005.

JJ

fitter_happier · 4 March 2007, 01:50 PM

Thanks, I just found out it was 2004, at oysterworld.de.

19 February 2007, 03:49 AM	#1
imposs "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ga Posts: 8	new to forum - questions! New to forum - I've always worn Omegas but am considering a Rolex. Please help me with a few questions - I understand the differences btw AD and GM for Omega - are they basically the same for Rolex? www.essential-watches.com - what are your experiences with them? Rolex bezels - what are the differences among old/new fluted bezels and engine turned bezels? Thanks!

19 February 2007, 05:01 AM	#3
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Hi and welcome to TRF. OMEGAs are excellent value for the money you pay out for them. Besides, an OMEGA can be had for fabulous discounts, but make sure you decide to keep the watch. Resale on an OMEGA is a killer unlike Rolex which holds its value much better. Both are excellent watches - if you can't decide, just have one of each and that should make you very happy!! Cheers and good luck. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

19 February 2007, 08:39 AM	#4
imposs "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ga Posts: 8	bezels? can you please answer my question Re: Rolex bezel types - old/new fluted engine turned.... thx!

19 February 2007, 12:27 PM	#6
imposs "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ga Posts: 8	what year? JJ - Thanks for that info! So, of course I have another question. What year were the engine-turned bezels discontinued? I ask because I am planning to purchase my "entry" Rolex (SS ladies datejust) from a grey market dealer(likely essential watches), and there are different bezel options. I don't want to buy a watch that's discontinued. How can I determine what year the watch was made?

3 March 2007, 12:12 PM	#10
tonelar "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Tony Location: san francisco Watch: Seadweller Posts: 1,368	Thanks guys... so it's only thicker out at the lug ends... doesn't stand up off your wrist any higher... They did a great thing actually 'cause of the biiig watch craze, they manage to punch the DJ up a notch without actually increasing it's overall dimensions. __________________ It's a rarity that something popular is actually right... Wear 'em with PRIDE, y'all.

19 February 2007, 04:43 AM	#2
kings4sap "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Steve Location: The O.C. Watch: DD 40 Posts: 447	Welcome - Do some searching on prior threads. There has been a lot of recent discussion re: EW. They appear legit and there has been nothing negative noted. K4S

3 March 2007, 05:34 PM	#11
Alex Stylianou "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,785	Welcome To TRF.

3 March 2007, 10:34 PM	#12
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	Man, I like those new Datejusts!!!!!!!!

3 March 2007, 11:13 PM	#13
Ragu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Ragu Sauce Location: Southern, FL Watch: the Sauce ;) Posts: 782	I wish the DJ were increased to 40mm as I'd be tempted on a TT one. __________________ "Waiting is so time consuming" -- Unknown Proud Member #2391

4 March 2007, 01:53 AM	#16
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	"I wish the DJ were increased to 40mm as I'd be tempted on a TT one." Just get a TT Sub. Remove the bezel. Fill in the small pin hole. Then polish up and around the dial. Now you have a 40mm Sub date!

4 March 2007, 10:27 AM	#17
fitter_happier "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: there, there Posts: 105	What year did this new DJ debut?

4 March 2007, 01:50 PM	#19
fitter_happier "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: there, there Posts: 105	Thanks, I just found out it was 2004, at oysterworld.de.

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