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TheDude · 20 August 2010, 08:43 AM

Our good buddy Steve M had been looking for a GMT-II Fat Lady for me, but hadn't been pleased with what he was finding. I mentioned to him off hand that I'd be interested in seeing any SDs he might have, and he hooked me up! It just arrived today!

I had been admiring 16660s, and this was a great opportunity to grab one.

It's an 8.3M serial (~1984) and should have a matte dial, but it was likely swapped during a service and has a gloss wg-surround dial.

Steve is looking for a nice matte to swap in, but for now I am in love. The case, bracelet, and bezel assembly are in fantastic shape, and the watch is running like a top. I love the open date wheel, as you can see the 9 is open... an oft overlooked difference between the 16660 and the 16600.

RLX-lvr · 20 August 2010, 09:24 AM

Super score you got there, dude.
I'm a sucker for deep patina. That one looks great!
Congrats!

TheDude · 20 August 2010, 09:39 AM

Thanks!!!!

swish77 · 20 August 2010, 09:48 AM

That patina is soooo nice, I might leave the dial alone if it were mine. It looks beautiful and all the tritium matches perfectly. Is it possible it's just an early version of that dial with the wg markers? Even if it's a RSC service replacement dial, it's still correct and looks great.

rfknauss · 20 August 2010, 09:53 AM

Very nice!

TheDude · 20 August 2010, 10:00 AM

Thanks! I also love the dial and might keep it that way. The SN is too early for it to have had gloss from the factory.

I am thinking even if I don't swap it right away, it is smart to at least buy a matte dial now while prices are being impacted by the economy.

fusionstorm · 20 August 2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDude

Thanks! I also love the dial and might keep it that way. The SN is too early for it to have had gloss from the factory.

I am thinking even if I don't swap it right away, it is smart to at least buy a matte dial now while prices are being impacted by the economy.

You'll be crushed when you realize that loose matte 16660 dials are weirdly very, very scarce. Perversely, this makes the matte 16660 dial probably the most expensive on the secondary market in relation to the value of the entire watch. Really, you're looking at a dial that approaches upwards of 50% of a complete triple 6.

TheDude · 20 August 2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fusionstorm

You'll be crushed when you realize that loose matte 16660 dials are weirdly very, very scarce. Perversely, this makes the matte 16660 dial probably the most expensive on the secondary market in relation to the value of the entire watch. Really, you're looking at a dial that approaches upwards of 50% of a complete triple 6.

No, I'm well aware. Steve M gave me the scoop before I purchased. I'm expecting to have to pay $2000 to $3000 for one.

He is looking, and if anyone can find one for me it's him. Fortunately, I'm not in a rush since the watch is so nice in its current form.

fusionstorm · 21 August 2010, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDude

No, I'm well aware. Steve M gave me the scoop before I purchased. I'm expecting to have to pay $2000 to $3000 for one.

He is looking, and if anyone can find one for me it's him. Fortunately, I'm not in a rush since the watch is so nice in its current form.

$2K would be cheap IMO. You just don't see much of any legit matte 16660 dials out there. Last listing I saw on VRF for a less than perfect one at $2200 sold quickly with multiple inquiries. Darndest thing IMO.

greekbum · 21 August 2010, 12:09 AM

Nice watch!!! IMHO 8.3 is when the WG dials started showing up. Its a nice watch enjoy it.

TheDude · 21 August 2010, 02:58 AM

Most think up to 8.6M is still okay for matte, and Steve personally thinks up to 9M. Also, the Rolex serial number project has many later SNs that are reported as being original and matte.

Like I said, $2K to $3K and I know they are rare. Again, if it takes a year or even 2yrs to get one I wouldn't mind.

sakuraba · 21 August 2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDude

Like I said, $2K to $3K and I know they are rare. Again, if it takes a year or even 2yrs to get one I wouldn't mind.

And you'll have a very nicely faded WG dial to wait with.

Very nice watch, Dude.

Mauiguy · 21 August 2010, 11:50 AM

Dude, I'm glad you posted this. I always thought I'd rather have a triple six with a matte dial and bleach white tritium markers, but this has to be one of the nicest surround dials I've ever seen. The beautiful contrasting patina really makes it come alive with character. I'm not sure I'd want to swap the dial either.

Nice watch!

-M

TheDude · 21 August 2010, 09:31 PM

Thanks guys! I am wearing it right now!

falko · 27 August 2010, 04:11 AM

love the devils watch

swissautopro · 27 August 2010, 08:10 AM

Nice looking triple 6. Wouldn't mind having one myself. Congrats!

fusionstorm · 27 August 2010, 10:10 AM

Not to thread jack, but here are mine........

TheDude · 27 August 2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fusionstorm

Not to thread jack, but here are mine........

Heh - you wouldn't mind selling me the dial and the handset from the one on the left would you?

Your pics helped me decide the 16660 was a watch I wanted to own. Congrats on your pair!

fusionstorm · 27 August 2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDude

Heh - you wouldn't mind selling me the dial and the handset from the one on the left would you?

Your pics helped me decide the 16660 was a watch I wanted to own. Congrats on your pair!

Take a number. You're about #15 in line.......

When the opportunity arose to get the one on the left, I couldn't turn it down even though I already had the one on the right. Perfect dial with snow white markers, and box & punched paperwork. It's basically brand new in terms of overall condition.

Looking at the pic of yours does remind me I should've picked up a 16660 with the metal surrounds and lovely patina I was offered recently. Though I'm somewhat biased, I do believe they're really underpriced on the secondary market and should see some nice upside in the next 5 years.

crockey · 27 August 2010, 12:18 PM

Welcome to the club!

Hope you find your Fat Lady. Here is my triple 6 with my fat lady......love the transitional models.

TheDude · 27 August 2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by crockey

Welcome to the club!

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by crockey

Hope you find your Fat Lady. Here is my triple 6 with my fat lady......love the transitional models.

Very nice Fat Lady! I decided not to get one right now. I got the 16660 last week and my PAM 359 this week (crazy timing), so I'm done for a while.

therolexguy · 27 August 2010, 01:00 PM

Looks great DUDE. I love those markers..nice and creamy... mmmmmm. Congrats.

sleddog · 27 August 2010, 01:02 PM

Very nice,and what a great patina.....Congrats!!

crockey · 28 August 2010, 08:10 AM

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I got the 16660 last week and my PAM 359 this week

Nice! Really like the 359. It is the first all polished 1950 case, correct?

TheDude · 28 August 2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crockey

Nice! Really like the 359. It is the first all polished 1950 case, correct?

Correct.

Texican · 28 August 2010, 10:55 PM

Very nice! That dial is absolutely fantastic!

20 August 2010, 09:53 AM	#5
rfknauss 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Richard Location: Macungie, PA Watch: 5513 Sub, LV Sub Posts: 14,497	Very nice! __________________ *"Few things in life give man as great a pleasure as wearing a Rolex!"* TRF's "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron

21 August 2010, 12:09 AM	#10
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Nice watch!!! IMHO 8.3 is when the WG dials started showing up. Its a nice watch enjoy it. __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

27 August 2010, 08:10 AM	#16
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	Nice looking triple 6. Wouldn't mind having one myself. Congrats! __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

27 August 2010, 10:10 AM	#17
fusionstorm "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Piedmont, CA Watch: various vintage Posts: 2,272	Not to thread jack, but here are mine........ __________________ 1680 MK II 2.2M (my daily); 1655 MK IV 8.1M (my 1st vintage); 16660 x 4 - 8.0M spider & matte 7.4M, 8.0M, 8.0M; 16610LV F MK I/MK I; 116528 Z; 14060 M COSC; Tudor 75090 Gone.....never forgotten: 14000 F, 14060 V COSC, PAM 048, 16623 F, 1680 MK V 3.1M, 16800 matte 8.3M & 1655 MK IV 7.4M

27 August 2010, 01:02 PM	#23
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	Very nice,and what a great patina.....Congrats!! __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

20 August 2010, 08:43 AM	#1
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,492	New watch - 16660 Our good buddy Steve M had been looking for a GMT-II Fat Lady for me, but hadn't been pleased with what he was finding. I mentioned to him off hand that I'd be interested in seeing any SDs he might have, and he hooked me up! It just arrived today! I had been admiring 16660s, and this was a great opportunity to grab one. It's an 8.3M serial (~1984) and should have a matte dial, but it was likely swapped during a service and has a gloss wg-surround dial. Steve is looking for a nice matte to swap in, but for now I am in love. The case, bracelet, and bezel assembly are in fantastic shape, and the watch is running like a top. I love the open date wheel, as you can see the 9 is open... an oft overlooked difference between the 16660 and the 16600.

20 August 2010, 09:24 AM	#2
RLX-lvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Toronto Posts: 1,947	Super score you got there, dude. I'm a sucker for deep patina. That one looks great! Congrats!

20 August 2010, 09:39 AM	#3
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,492	Thanks!!!!

20 August 2010, 09:48 AM	#4
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 7,001	That patina is soooo nice, I might leave the dial alone if it were mine. It looks beautiful and all the tritium matches perfectly. Is it possible it's just an early version of that dial with the wg markers? Even if it's a RSC service replacement dial, it's still correct and looks great.

20 August 2010, 10:00 AM	#6
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,492	Thanks! I also love the dial and might keep it that way. The SN is too early for it to have had gloss from the factory. I am thinking even if I don't swap it right away, it is smart to at least buy a matte dial now while prices are being impacted by the economy.

21 August 2010, 02:58 AM	#11
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,492	Most think up to 8.6M is still okay for matte, and Steve personally thinks up to 9M. Also, the Rolex serial number project has many later SNs that are reported as being original and matte. Like I said, $2K to $3K and I know they are rare. Again, if it takes a year or even 2yrs to get one I wouldn't mind.

21 August 2010, 11:50 AM	#13
Mauiguy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hawaiian islands Posts: 1,109	Dude, I'm glad you posted this. I always thought I'd rather have a triple six with a matte dial and bleach white tritium markers, but this has to be one of the nicest surround dials I've ever seen. The beautiful contrasting patina really makes it come alive with character. I'm not sure I'd want to swap the dial either. Nice watch! -M

21 August 2010, 09:31 PM	#14
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,492	Thanks guys! I am wearing it right now!

27 August 2010, 04:11 AM	#15
falko Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Europe Watch: SS black Daytona Posts: 26	love the devils watch

27 August 2010, 12:18 PM	#20
crockey "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 256	Welcome to the club! Hope you find your Fat Lady. Here is my triple 6 with my fat lady......love the transitional models.

27 August 2010, 01:00 PM	#22
therolexguy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Todd Location: US Posts: 3,528	Looks great DUDE. I love those markers..nice and creamy... mmmmmm. Congrats.

28 August 2010, 10:55 PM	#26
Texican "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Scotty Location: Texas Watch: 1680 Red, 5512 Posts: 230	Very nice! That dial is absolutely fantastic! __________________

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