Aaron Faber

[Lol-x]

Aaron Faber Gallerys is a rip-off.

They have a website:

http://www.aaronfaber.com

http://www.aaronfaber.com/cms/about___edward_faber.asp

Aaron Faber clearly engages in highly questionable disreputable business practices:

For instance, Aaron Faber offer, for "nominal annual fee" a so-called "Collectors Club" which allegedly "offers a range of services to the serious collector."

Arron Faber want people to pay a so called "nominal annual fee" for privileges that are basically worthless.

Ed Faber touts himself as some kind of legend. However, his reputation based on excellent reliable sources is highly questionable. From a bona fide customers perspective he engages in the most ruthless of sharp business practices.

From a bona fide customers perspective Ed Faber of Arron Faber engages in the most ruthless of sharp business practices treating his customers with total contemptible disrespect.

In my opinion, I would seriously caution anyone to stay away......well away of Aaron Faber. I personally know someone who has been taken down by Ed Faber and Aaron Faber to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars. So they win and you lose.

Aaron Faber exhibit basically zero product knowledge of fine watches. Aaron Faber mislead people into thinking that they are knowledgable when in fact they are far from it.

For those who are may not astute or fully informed or simply those who believe they can trust someone like Aaron Faber..............DONT BE FOOLED.

Aaron Faber only give you the spin that sounds good. For instance a "single quickset" Day-Date they mention claims that you don't have to spin the crown around to get the date.....but they mention nothing about the day. A non-disclosure that is very important.

Aaron Faber and Ed Faber are definitely on my black list. Spread the word. Anyone who is in contact with them should let them know we are onto them and will do whatever it takes to get them to cease their disgraceful, despicable and highly unethical practices.

[Lol-x]

They basically disclaim any responsibilty for all false claims:

Originally Posted by Aaron Faber

Aaron Faber disclaims all warranties of any kind, including implied warranties, representations, or endorsements with respect to the site, the service or its content. Aaron Faber expressly disclaims all warranties of any kind, including warranties of merchantability, title and non-infringement, fitness for a particular purpose, with regard to the site, the service, the content and any product or service furnished via the site. Aaron Faber does not warranty that the functions performed by this site or the service will be timely, secure, error-free or uninterrupted or that defects in the site will be corrected. Aaron Faber does not warranty the accuracy or completeness of content. By using this site you acknowledge that any reliance on any such materials, advice, statement or information shall be at your sole risk.

And their geat no warranty policy is sure to leave you without any solution or remedy after you've spent $10,000 for nothing:

Originally Posted by Aaron Faber

Aaron Faber will not be liable for any damages whatsoever, including, but not limited to, any direct or indirect damages arising out of the use or inability to use this site, service or content; any transaction conducted or facilitated through this site; any claim attributed to errors or omissions or inaccuracies in the service, site or content. If you are dissatisfied with the site, the service, the content or these terms of use, your sole and exclusive remedy is to discontinue using the site. If your state law prohibits such limitation of liability, Aaron Faber’s liability is limited to the greatest extent permitted by law, not to exceed $100.00.

Oh, I'm sorry, I might have overstated things you do actually get $100 even though you may well have relinquished tens of thousands of dollars for something that doesn't stand up to be what it should have been.

WATCH OUT FOR THIS SHARP DEALER

Source: http://www.aaronfaber.com/cms/fine_p...sp?L=fineprint

[Lol-x]

Surely these terms and conditions have to be a joke, but NO they are dead serious.

Aaron Faber wants you to be royally screwed and say thank you for the service.

NO THANK YOU!!!!!

[Andad]

This is a very serious matter people should take action to protect themselves and others.

[Lol-x]

An example of Aaron Faber's seat of the pants illinformed misinformation is their claim that the "helium escape value ..will protect the watch at high altitude pressure".

It's a Sea-Dweller and there is no helium pressure build up at high altitude.

http://www.aaronfaber.com/viewitem.asp?idProduct=1343

A clearer case of a shonky dodgy dealer could not be found.

How do you guys in New York say it.............ITS TOTAL BALONEY!

[Johno]

Its a wonder Ed Faber of Aaron Faber hasn't electrocuted himself with all the dribble gushing from his mouth to the keyboard as he purports to deal this bogus stuff up to potential customers.

[2careless]

Why does Aaron Faber state those kind of one sided terms and conditions that will not pass any consumer laws? Those T&Cs are just bunk.

[Lol-x]

Originally Posted by 2careless

Why does Aaron Faber state those kind of one sided terms and conditions that will not pass any consumer laws? Those T&Cs are just bunk.

Kai I guess the only answer to this is that Aaron Faber don't care what happens once the customers walk out the door and their hard earned cash is safely in Aaron Faber's cash register.

The prey upon the ill-informed and the trusting and decent innocents.

[mcjp6]

Thanks for the warning Steve......I sincerely hope that you are not speaking from personal experience......

[Brenngun]

Thank you very much for the notice. Even though their T's & C's would not pass the smell test in a court of law, they're obviously relying on the majority of unsuspecting buyers to not have the resources needed to support protracted and expensive legal action.

[EE33]

They seem to have a good website, good business location and apparently good knowledge of the trade (30 + years).

Has anyone stormed in demanding their $$$ back?

[Lol-x]

No Michael, but I do know a very well respected person who has been seriously deprived of a huge sum of money only to have Aaron Faber retain his money and slam the door in his face.

It's important that we make as many people aware of this as we can. That is the only way we can make Ed Faber and Arron Faber Gallerys become accountable for their actions.

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

....I do know a very well respected person who has been seriously deprived of a huge sum of money only to have Aaron Faber retain his money and slam the door in his face.

It's important that we make as many people aware of this as we can. That is the only way we can make Ed Faber and Arron Faber Gallerys become accountable for their actions.

I know of them for years and seen them in many IWJG shows in the past
The idea to do any business with Aaron Faber NEVER even crossed my mind.

[dalip]

Good to know. Thanks for posting Steve. Sorry to hear of the issue with your friend.

[kyle L]

I've been there a couple of times, they were always polite and courteous. However their high prices are keeping me from buying from them.

[Lol-x]

Originally Posted by kyle L

I've been there a couple of times, they were always polite and courteous. However their high prices are keeping me from buying from them.

Kyle it isn't really difficult to smile nicely and be courteous too someone when Aaron Faber is literally taking tens of thousands of dollars off that innocent customer and offering ZERO (apart from $100) as a remedy for any defect or thing that Aaron Faber does wrong.

[onkyo]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Kyle it isn't really difficult to smile nicely and be courteous too someone when Aaron Faber is literally taking tens of thousands of dollars off that innocent customer and offering ZERO (apart from $100) as a remedy for any defect or thing that Aaron Faber does wrong.

And that innocent customer being me......

Ed Faber contacted me about a rare Patek watch which was supposedly brand new. Later he told me it was unsealed which was no problem since I planned on wearing it. When the watch arrived is was obviously well used/worn for many years. Needless to say I did not accept the watch despite his offer to buff it up for me. I gave him the deposit in February. Its now been more than 6 months and despite many phone calls and emails he still has not returned my $$$.

BUYER BEWARE OF ED FABER AT AARON FABER GALLERY IN NYC!@!@!@!@

[Puffy]

Originally Posted by onkyo

BUYER BEWARE OF ED FABER AT AARON FABER GALLERY IN NYC!@!@!@!@

I tried on a few pieces while i was there - needless to say I didn't buy - felt well intimidated by the big burly doorman and I bet they use him to scare people into buying

if you want to shop around I suggest going down to 47th street instead, much nicer

[unclesallie]

Originally Posted by onkyo

And that innocent customer being me......

Ed Faber contacted me about a rare Patek watch which was supposedly brand new. Later he told me it was unsealed which was no problem since I planned on wearing it. When the watch arrived is was obviously well used/worn for many years. Needless to say I did not accept the watch despite his offer to buff it up for me. I gave him the deposit in February. Its now been more than 6 months and despite many phone calls and emails he still has not returned my $$$.

BUYER BEWARE OF ED FABER AT AARON FABER GALLERY IN NYC!@!@!@!@

Pav:

Sue the bastard!

Sorry this happened to you.......also, file a complaint with Better Business Bureau in NY. Normally, I would say that step is a waste of time, but in NY they have a lot of clout with the State AG's office, and local NY authorities.
You can fill out a complaint form online and they WILL get back to you........

good luck,
and best,
Dan

[Lol-x]

That's a good point Rick

The high-handed arrogance of Aaron Faber shows a 'complete lack of respect for the law' and the rights of innocent reasonable fair minded unsuspecting customers.

[Puffy]

Cheers Stevo.

I can back this up, having been to the brick and mortar shop in NYC. Complete waste of time unless you are gagging for a MOO (Manhattan Once Over).

Don't bother visiting and don't register on their website either

[Lol-x]

Originally Posted by Puffy

Cheers Stevo.

I can back this up, having been to the brick and mortar shop in NYC. Complete waste of time unless you are gagging for a MOO (Manhattan Once Over).

Don't bother visiting and don't register on their website either

Very good advice Anders

[onkyo]

And at around the same time he sold a cream dial explorer II for me and also owes me for that as well .....

[rajurama]

Originally Posted by onkyo

And that innocent customer being me......

Ed Faber contacted me about a rare Patek watch which was supposedly brand new. Later he told me it was unsealed which was no problem since I planned on wearing it. When the watch arrived is was obviously well used/worn for many years. Needless to say I did not accept the watch despite his offer to buff it up for me. I gave him the deposit in February. Its now been more than 6 months and despite many phone calls and emails he still has not returned my $$$.

BUYER BEWARE OF ED FABER AT AARON FABER GALLERY IN NYC!@!@!@!@

Originally Posted by onkyo

And at around the same time he sold a cream dial explorer II for me and also owes me for that as well .....

Sorry to know of your stress! atleast he should be sent a link of this thread and made aware how is 30+ yrs name goin to the bin! Stupid person! its so simple for him to refund and rebuff the watch and sell it as preowned!

[Idle Swede]

Sorry to hear this Pav, hope it works out.

I've been to their store several times and like big A I never even thought of buying from them.

[onkyo]

Originally Posted by Idle Swede

Sorry to hear this Pav, hope it works out.

I've been to their store several times and like big A I never even thought of buying from them.

Thanks Leo.... I am sure everything will work out but I will have to waste some time doing so.

[DRAWTOOL]

Originally Posted by onkyo

And at around the same time he sold a cream dial explorer II for me and also owes me for that as well .....

Pav, out of curiosity, would that be the same "cream dial exp-II" that's on their website now?

[onkyo]

Originally Posted by DRAWTOOL

Pav, out of curiosity, would that be the same "cream dial exp-II" that's on thier website now?

I will check but I was told they sold mine 4-5 months ago.

[onkyo]

Originally Posted by DRAWTOOL

Pav, out of curiosity, would that be the same "cream dial exp-II" that's on their website now?

Hard to say for sure but it was a 16570 cream dial with b/p.....

[DRAWTOOL]

Thanks for the heads up! I'd never use them anyway, I'd only buy from my own 'Grey' or from one of the guys here, but It's good to know who the bad guys are!