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rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 03:30 AM

My local AD has for sale a 5513, no date. He can't put an exact date on it but says late 60's . It's been serviced by rolex with new acrylic crystal,and dial. He's asking 4k price negotiable. What are these selling for ,is that a good price? Does the service lower or raise the value? Thanks for any help

Clay · 21 October 2010, 03:33 AM

what is the serial number???
Is the dial a service gloss dial replacement??

rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 03:42 AM

6744623, he just said the dial was a new acrylic dial from rolex. Thanks for the help clay

rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 04:31 AM

Looking at the 6 million serial number, I think that dates it to early 80's . Does that seem Right?

SLS · 21 October 2010, 05:15 AM

You are correct, 6.7 is the early 80's....and should come with a matte dial. The luminova dial, if that is indeed what is on the watch, is a service replacement with hurts the overall value. The watch is no longer "all original" so 4K is an OK price, and on the high side IMO. I may offer a little under and see what he says. Does it come with anything? Box, papers or service papers?
Scott

rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 05:38 AM

No box or papers, could you buy a vintage dial, etc and make it " original" is that what alot of these watches being sold are?

kyle L · 21 October 2010, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rangel23

No box or papers, could you buy a vintage dial, etc and make it " original" is that what alot of these watches being sold are?

I don't think that would make it "original", original for me means the way it came out of the factory.

rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kyle L

I don't think that would make it "original", original for me means the way it came out of the factory.

Your right, I have the same feelings, if you can't tell if it's been put together or completely original..it would command the same price and buyers would never know the difference. I don't know what sellers do though??

kyle L · 21 October 2010, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rangel23

Your right, I have the same feelings, if you can't tell if it's been put together or completely original..it would command the same price and buyers would never know the difference. I don't know what sellers do though??

Usually a trusted seller will tell you what has been replaced or if it's all original.

Tools · 21 October 2010, 08:28 AM

If the 5513 was serviced by Rolex, then it would have a proper service replacement dial on it........ You did say that this is at an AD, right....

I would check to ensure that the bracelet has little wear (it too may have been replaced at service), negotiate a little bit, then buy it.......

The thing about 5513's is that they will never be made again. Also eventually, all will need a service dial, some just sooner than others...

If you want a little bit of Rolex history, and one of the icons in the watch world............ go for it......

Clay · 21 October 2010, 05:41 AM

I think I would walk away...There is no shortage of nice 5513's out there....

rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 05:59 AM

..the real question is how do guys buy and sell so many vintage watches? I can't figure out how they make any money doing that.

Clay · 21 October 2010, 01:57 PM

any chance of getting a picture???

PhilM · 21 October 2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay

any chance of getting a picture???

x2

The 5513 is one of my favourites

rangel23 · 22 October 2010, 04:53 AM

Really no chance of a picture, sorry guys. It's a 5513, he got on a trade-in. The watch got a new band and dial. It looks almost new.

21 October 2010, 03:30 AM	#1
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	Vintage sub question My local AD has for sale a 5513, no date. He can't put an exact date on it but says late 60's . It's been serviced by rolex with new acrylic crystal,and dial. He's asking 4k price negotiable. What are these selling for ,is that a good price? Does the service lower or raise the value? Thanks for any help

21 October 2010, 05:15 AM	#5
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	You are correct, 6.7 is the early 80's....and should come with a matte dial. The luminova dial, if that is indeed what is on the watch, is a service replacement with hurts the overall value. The watch is no longer "all original" so 4K is an OK price, and on the high side IMO. I may offer a little under and see what he says. Does it come with anything? Box, papers or service papers? Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

21 October 2010, 08:28 AM	#10
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	If the 5513 was serviced by Rolex, then it would have a proper service replacement dial on it........ You did say that this is at an AD, right.... I would check to ensure that the bracelet has little wear (it too may have been replaced at service), negotiate a little bit, then buy it....... The thing about 5513's is that they will never be made again. Also eventually, all will need a service dial, some just sooner than others... If you want a little bit of Rolex history, and one of the icons in the watch world............ go for it...... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

21 October 2010, 03:33 AM	#2
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	what is the serial number??? Is the dial a service gloss dial replacement??

21 October 2010, 03:42 AM	#3
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	6744623, he just said the dial was a new acrylic dial from rolex. Thanks for the help clay

21 October 2010, 04:31 AM	#4
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	Looking at the 6 million serial number, I think that dates it to early 80's . Does that seem Right?

21 October 2010, 05:38 AM	#6
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	No box or papers, could you buy a vintage dial, etc and make it " original" is that what alot of these watches being sold are?

21 October 2010, 05:41 AM	#11
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	I think I would walk away...There is no shortage of nice 5513's out there....

21 October 2010, 05:59 AM	#12
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	..the real question is how do guys buy and sell so many vintage watches? I can't figure out how they make any money doing that.

21 October 2010, 01:57 PM	#13
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	any chance of getting a picture???

22 October 2010, 04:53 AM	#15
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	Really no chance of a picture, sorry guys. It's a 5513, he got on a trade-in. The watch got a new band and dial. It looks almost new.

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