looking for some FLAT FOUR 16610 LV green submariners

[L-16610]

If you have one of the first generation (flat four) please share some pictures with us.
The watch is nice, not nicer than a later edition with non flat four but since it is so rare I want to see a lot of them :-)

I searched between a lot of thread about the 16610LV but I was amazed that I barely found these flat four subs

Those who have one, did you buy it when it came out (end 2003- early 2004) or did you buy it recently because you were hunting for this first generation

[dddrees]

If you don't mind me asking what are you refering to in regards to flat four?

[L-16610]

Originally Posted by dddrees

If you don't mind me asking what are you refering to in regards to flat four?

Look at the 40 on the bezel. the 4 looks different from other green subs.
Also the green bezel insert is not the same green, later generation LV's have a darker green bezel

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by L-16610

Look at the 40 on the bezel. the 4 looks different from other green subs.
Also the green bezel insert is not the same green, later generation LV's have a darker green bezel

Thanks for the explanation.

[sBmRnR]

Here's one!

[L-16610]

Originally Posted by sBmRnR

Here's one!

yours or a pictuce found via google ?
Ofcourse I find them too via google but I would like to know who on this forum has one. Wanne have an idea how rare they are
If yours, congrtualtions !

[conrail]

Originally Posted by L-16610

yours or a pictuce found via google ?
Ofcourse I find them too via google but I would like to know who on this forum has one. Wanne have an idea how rare they are
If yours, congrtualtions !

His name is sBmRnR. His picture says sBmRnR (c) 2010. I think its his :)

[mocheen]

I have a 2003 F series and it has the flat 4 bezel. I am looking to replace the bezel so I can keep the original bezel in mint condition for my son. I have considered going with a black bezel, but I think the green makes it stand out from the rest. My brother in law has a black 16610 sub and I want to be different.

[nyfida]

I found one today a flat four f serial purchased in 2004. I have the same question if i buy this watch for $6500 and destroy the flat four bezel will rolex give me an original. I would think no therefore would have to source another green or just put a black. Do you think these watches will continue to appreciate?

[Kiddodoc]

Here's mine and they only came in the early versions of the LV. Mine is an early F series.

[HACKNSACK44]

Originally Posted by kiddodoc

Here's mine and they only came in the early versions of the LV. Mine is an early F series.

So if it has a 4 like yours vs a 4 from a V serial its a flat 4?

[Kolkek]

Originally Posted by HACKNSACK44

So if it has a 4 like yours vs a 4 from a V serial its a flat 4?

Exactly

[HL65]

Here is my 03' LV- Mark 1 dial with flat 4:

[gettocard]

I've had a Y series from sept 2003 and an M series from 2008. Sold both of them with no regret. Great watch but never got along with the green.

[pb2au]

The Y series was rare and IHMO will become collectible along with the early F's as I have seen others consider these the "true" anniversary watch. Just pulled the trigger on an early F yesterday. It is from December 2003.

Need to figure out how to post pics. Will post when I do so. (Have some holiday shopping to get done today)

BTW, first time I have heard them referred to as Flat Four's. I have also heard them described as "Oval O's" due to the shape of the "O" in the word Rolex on the dial.Wonder which name will stick?

Cheers

Sanj

[Johny]

does anyone have a pic of the two watches together. i would like to try to see the colour difference in the green. thank you.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by pb2au

The Y series was rare and IHMO will become collectible along with the early F's as I have seen others consider these the "true" anniversary watch. Just pulled the trigger on an early F yesterday. It is from December 2003.

Need to figure out how to post pics. Will post when I do so. (Have some holiday shopping to get done today)

BTW, first time I have heard them referred to as Flat Four's. I have also heard them described as "Oval O's" due to the shape of the "O" in the word Rolex on the dial.Wonder which name will stick?

Cheers

Sanj

Mark 1 IMHO. As for price of them--they have already sky rocketed in price vs. others!!! And--there are rarely any for sale--especially 100% complete sets.

[dcash0615]

When referring to the LV, what does Mark 1 mean? I see that mentioned here and not real sure what that means. Sorry for my ignorance.

I am thinking about buying a Y series LV with flat 4. Are the Y series really pulling a premium on price? What should I expect to pay if I wanted to pick one up with box and papers that has been worn, but not in bad shape?

I have a late F series with no flat 4. Love the watch. First Rolex I ever purchased.

Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

Mark 1 IMHO. As for price of them--they have already sky rocketed in price vs. others!!! And--there are rarely any for sale--especially 100% complete sets.

[Davvan]

....my early D serial from 2005. The crystal has seen better days

And a nice chart to compare the different MK`s. Not my work....found in another thread here on TRF

[HL65]

Originally Posted by dcash0615

When referring to the LV, what does Mark 1 mean? I see that mentioned here and not real sure what that means. Sorry for my ignorance.

I am thinking about buying a Y series LV with flat 4. Are the Y series really pulling a premium on price? What should I expect to pay if I wanted to pick one up with box and papers that has been worn, but not in bad shape?

I have a late F series with no flat 4. Love the watch. First Rolex I ever purchased.

If you could find one--their not easy to find--You will pay roughly $7k for it.

[L-16610]

Originally Posted by pb2au

The Y series was rare and IHMO will become collectible along with the early F's as I have seen others consider these the "true" anniversary watch. Just pulled the trigger on an early F yesterday. It is from December 2003.

Need to figure out how to post pics. Will post when I do so. (Have some holiday shopping to get done today)

BTW, first time I have heard them referred to as Flat Four's. I have also heard them described as "Oval O's" due to the shape of the "O" in the word Rolex on the dial.Wonder which name will stick?

Cheers

Sanj

late Y or early F makes no difference at all. If your flat four is from late 2003 or begin 2004, it is the same watch

[cdweller]

Originally Posted by pb2au

BTW, first time I have heard them referred to as Flat Four's. I have also heard them described as "Oval O's" due to the shape of the "O" in the word Rolex on the dial.Wonder which name will stick?

Sanj

I have often wondered why people seem to put so much emphasis on the bezel "flat 4". I always thought it was the dial that "made" the watch, so why not more emphasis on that oval "O"?? Aren't we always being told to "buy the dial"? Just my thoughts!

[Mickey®]

Originally Posted by cdweller

I have often wondered why people seem to put so much emphasis on the bezel "flat 4". I always thought it was the dial that "made" the watch, so why not more emphasis on that oval "O"?? Aren't we always being told to "buy the dial"? Just my thoughts!

I think you are right and the dial will be pictured in books years from now not the bezel...if it wasn't for us WIS it wouldn't even be an issue or topic.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by cdweller

I have often wondered why people seem to put so much emphasis on the bezel "flat 4". I always thought it was the dial that "made" the watch, so why not more emphasis on that oval "O"?? Aren't we always being told to "buy the dial"? Just my thoughts!

It's different and it wasn't made for very long, so it generates some interest.

[hns_555]

I'm also looking for this 16610 LV with "Y" or "F" series, although already had the "M" series

[therolexguy]

I love the minutia we keep track of...it's awesome. I love learning and I learned something today.

[HL65]

As long as it is an early F--For example-Serial 02xxxx you are correct. Regardless- all of the Mark 1's have flat 4's on bezel and the larger insert which came only on the Y/early F and that differentiates it from the rest.

[dddrees]

The one I placed a down payment on yesterday is a V series, didn't have any knowledge of the Flat four when doing so or the different color of bezel early vs late.

However I still look forward to picking it up. I look forward to having the LV, and even more importantly adding a Sub to my collection.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by dddrees

The one I placed a down payment on yesterday is a V series, didn't have aany knowledge of the Flat four when doing so or the different color of bezel early vs late.

However I still look forward to picking it up. I look forward to having the LV, and even more importantly adding a Sub to my collection.

hi dan i bought a v series a couple of weeks ago and its great. i hope that you enjoy yours when it comes. congratulations.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Johny

hi dan i bought a v series a couple of weeks ago and its great. i hope that you enjoy yours when it comes. congratulations.

Thanks John, I know I will. Congrats on your recent purchase as well.