How to adjust the Date in GMT Master 2c?

[hacampbell1360]

Hi, I am confused!!!

How do you adjust the Date in the GMT Master 2c?
Read the manual, but my head is spinning and I am dizzy. I could not adjust the date. Please help. Thanks so much.

[ashu2289]

Originally Posted by hacampbell1360

Hi, I am confused!!!

How do you adjust the Date in the GMT Master 2c?
Read the manual, but my head is spinning and I am dizzy. I could not adjust the date. Please help. Thanks so much.

Adjust the independent hour hand by moving to position 1 and with every 24 hr movement you have date change

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by ashu2289

Adjust the independent hour hand by moving to position 1 and with every 24 hr movement you have date change

The watch doesn't have a quickset date like the other watches in the range, but a semi-quickset via the hour hand. Takes a tiny bit longer, but it's easy enough to do

[tech_controller]

Originally Posted by hacampbell1360

Hi, I am confused!!!

How do you adjust the Date in the GMT Master 2c?
Read the manual, but my head is spinning and I am dizzy. I could not adjust the date. Please help. Thanks so much.

Date can be changed backwards or forwards via setting the hour hand. I love it.

[FinbarSaunders]

Originally Posted by tech_controller

Date can be changed backwards or forwards via setting the hour hand. I love it.

I know what you mean - it's really satisfying to pop the date forwards like this!

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by hacampbell1360

Hi, I am confused!!!

How do you adjust the Date in the GMT Master 2c?
Read the manual, but my head is spinning and I am dizzy. I could not adjust the date. Please help. Thanks so much.

I recomend checking out each position of the crown and give it a whirl. Its just a bit different with the fourth hand and all but if you mess with it for a bit you'll get the hang of it.

[Watch Professor]

Various positions of crown.

Unscrew crown and it will pop into position 1. Use this position for manual winding. I suggest that you fully wind the watch (40 revolutions) before setting.

Pull out crown to position 2. This is the position for setting the date and hour hand. I would suggest that when setting the watch, you set the date and hour hand last and first go to crown position 3.

Pull out crown to position 3. This position sets the fourth (green) 24 hour hand , the minute hand , and the second hand. First, if you want the second hand to be the exact time, wait till the second hand reaches the 12 marker and pull out the crown to the third position. Then turn the crown to set the green hand to the correct 24 time. Use Time. gov. to get the precise time. Then turn the crown to set the correct minute. Push in the crown to the second position when the time. gov. signal indicates the exact minute and second.

With the crown in position 2, turn the crown either clockwise or counterclockwise rotating the hour hand as many times as necessary to get the date. I would suggest setting the date one day prior to the correct date. Then rotate the crown clockwise till the date changes to the coreect date. If you are setting the watch in the AM, (don't set the date between 9PM and 3AM) rotate the hour hand to the correct hour. If you are setting the date in the PM (don't do it between 9PM and 3AM) rotate the hour hand past the 12 marker so that the date changes around midnight. Push the crown back in and tighten it down by screwing clockwise.

Good luck. You are right. The manual is next to useless.

[Tools]

GMT's are an amazing watch.....

Pull the crown out and always set the 24 hr hand and hack seconds first..


Then push the crown in to the "jump" hour hand position and rotate the hand around the dial, either backwards or forwards to set the date. You can set the date at any time you want..

finally jump the hour hand to the correct time..........

[Tools]

[hacampbell1360]

AHH, you mean I have to keep on cranking the hour hand 24 hours at a time to get the date to change 1 time?

That mean that I have to keep on cranking for maximum of 30 revolution on the hour hand?

if it ok if I crank it backward?

Now then let say it is November, November only has 30 days. How will the watch know to skip the 31st day because it has 31 days on the date wheels?

Man if I am in the wrong month, then I have to reset the date for the entire month?

Ok, how about January? It only has 28 days. Do you have to reset for that month to?

If that is the case, I may have to sale my brand new GMT


I am sorry to ask so stupid question... I new at this.

Thanks in advance guys, John

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by hacampbell1360

AHH, you mean I have to keep on cranking the hour hand 24 hours at a time to get the date to change 1 time?

That mean that I have to keep on cranking for maximum of 30 revolution on the hour hand?

if it ok if I crank it backward?

Now then let say it is November, November only has 30 days. How will the watch know to skip the 31st day because it has 31 days on the date wheels?

Man if I am in the wrong month, then I have to reset the date for the entire month?

Ok, how about January? It only has 28 days. Do you have to reset for that month to?

If that is the case, I may have to sale my brand new GMT


I am sorry to ask so stupid question... I new at this.

Thanks in advance guys, John

You can wind it forwards or backwards, the movement will be fine. It is not a perpetual calendar watch, so it will just click over once a day from 1 through to 31. Only the most complicated watches are able to know what month it is and do this automatically - think Patek Phillippe. Changing the day once every few months is hardly onerous, and will take all of 30 seconds.

[cyglee]

[QUOTE=hacampbell1360;2208465]
If that is the case, I may have to sale my brand new GMT
I am sorry to ask so stupid question... I new at this.

No questions are stupid, you are just new to this gmt. Once you get the hang of it (play with it awhile), you will appreciate the gmt movement. I also have an Omega SMP gmt that is the same way.

[JBat]

Originally Posted by hacampbell1360

AHH, you mean I have to keep on cranking the hour hand 24 hours at a time to get the date to change 1 time?

That mean that I have to keep on cranking for maximum of 30 revolution on the hour hand?

if it ok if I crank it backward?

Now then let say it is November, November only has 30 days. How will the watch know to skip the 31st day because it has 31 days on the date wheels?

Man if I am in the wrong month, then I have to reset the date for the entire month?

Ok, how about January? It only has 28 days. Do you have to reset for that month to?

If that is the case, I may have to sale my brand new GMT


I am sorry to ask so stupid question... I new at this.

Thanks in advance guys, John

Like Larry said, you can jump the hour hand forward or backward without damaging the movement. Yes, you will have to jump 24 hours to advance the date one day, but it goes very quickly.

You now have a mechanical watch, so in months with only 30 days, you are going to have to advance the date one day to get from the 31st to the first of the month. In February you will have to advance the date three days. Piece of cake. Absolutely zero reason to sell your watch. Oh, and pull out the users manual--all this info is in it.

And yes, GMT's are amazing watches.

[petesjag]

there is also a film on youtube which shows how to set the GMT II c...If you search for it .you will find it..

[Boadicea]

You learn something new every day...

I must admit that I have always liked the GMT2C but I never knew this about the date and it has just gone down a step in my eyes. I take my hat off to the fact that they have simplified the process by allowing a reverse setting to go backwards but it still seems a bit archaic to me.

Then again... a 4th position on the crown might have been equally awkward, lol. I'll have to give it a try next time I see one.

[FinbarSaunders]

Originally Posted by Boadicea

You learn something new every day...

I must admit that I have always liked the GMT2C but I never knew this about the date and it has just gone down a step in my eyes. I take my hat off to the fact that they have simplified the process by allowing a reverse setting to go backwards but it still seems a bit archaic to me.

Then again... a 4th position on the crown might have been equally awkward, lol. I'll have to give it a try next time I see one.

Most automatic & non-digital watches (which means most Rolexes) will need the wearer to correct the date when the month has fewer than 31 days in it.

Even some quartz watches need date adjustment - my old Swatch was quartz, with analogue hands and a date window, but I still needed to adjust the date on months with <31 days.

Setting the date on my GMT-IIc takes me a couple of seconds at most, just 5 times per year, and as I posted earlier, it's really quite satisfying to do.

If your opinion of the GMT is diminished because of the need to do this, then you should consider a digital quartz timepiece, as it seems that you value convenience above the awesomeness of mechanical engineering

[Boadicea]

Originally Posted by FinbarSaunders

If your opinion of the GMT is diminished because of the need to do this, then you should consider a digital quartz timepiece, as it seems that you value convenience above the awesomeness of mechanical engineering

I think you're getting offended for nothing. My DJ also has a date and it takes a single turn to correct it and yes, it is indeed satisfying. I'm not bashing the GMT2, I'm just saying that I had no idea that the date adjustment was like this. It caught me by surprise, thats all! If you read carefully, you'll also notice that I stated that having it any other way on the GMT2 might have been worse. I'm even going to have a look at one next time I see one so I can reserve final judgement.

Cheer up mate, we're all friends here.

[2005rivers]

Originally Posted by Boadicea

I think you're getting offended for nothing. My DJ also has a date and it takes a single turn to correct it and yes, it is indeed satisfying. I'm not bashing the GMT2, I'm just saying that I had no idea that the date adjustment was like this. It caught me by surprise, thats all! If you read carefully, you'll also notice that I stated that having it any other way on the GMT2 might have been worse. I'm even going to have a look at one next time I see one so I can reserve final judgement.

Cheer up mate, we're all friends here.

Definitely give it a try, as previously stated in this thread, by adjusting the 12hr hand to change the date it is nearly as convenient as a quick-set and most important you do not loose any time when changing the date this way. I believe you will regain your former thoughts on the watch once you play around with one.

[hacampbell1360]

Thanks guys,

I feel much better now. I am no longer afraid to crank that watch any more. Maybe a little hassle of advancing the date at the end of the month. It is good to have a support from a group of supper nice people (friends) here on TRF. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

For a minute I thought I just bought something that I regret.

[Aureliano]

For a minute I thought I just bought something that I regret.[/QUOTE]

Not only you wont regret it, it will start growing and growing on you. Once you learn it takes only seconds (literally) to set it. It is a great watch, very functional.

[Boadicea]

WOW! I just read this and completely understand why they would do this with the date setting now! It completely makes sense and I was a fool for thinking otherwise!

http://www.rolexforum.nl/topic.php?i...nglepost=21845

Specifically: "Rolex was the first to produce a modern GMT watch (the GMT-Master II), where date was synchronized both forwards and backwards to local time. This way, if you ended up in a time zone earlier than yours and had crossed the international date line, your date would turn back as the hands pass the midnight threshold."

EXCELLENT idea that I completely forgot about! If you take a flight forward by date/time the date would advance with you! If you then flew back, you would need to go back a date! Doing this on a DJ would involve a good 20+ turns depending on how many dates flick per turn.

My opinion has been revised!

[tictocChuck]

I don't beleive any of the Rolex Professional models (with date function) have the datejust (quick change) feature. I agree it is a little extra work to spin the hour hand through 24 to get a date change, but no big deal if you wear it all the time....however a bit more pain if it's your weekend watch (not on a winder). My Omega Seamaster requires the same thing (spinning the hour hand).

It's just one of those quirks that makes owning a fine mechanical time piece more interactive and interesting. On the flip side, I'm sure there are quartz watches which make changing the date a snap, but lacks something in character.

I agree that the instructions in the Rolex hand book supplied with the GMTIIc is poor and could be better written, especially considering the watch price....Hello Rolex!

Cheers

[htc8p]

i dont think there is no limitation to the 9pm to 3am rule. you can change any time