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Garys · 14 January 2011, 10:57 AM

When did Rolex start putting the 3186 movement in the Explorer II?

Do all Explorer II watches with a 3186 movement have the engraving on the rehaux(?), the inside of the bezel?

Thanks

Tools · 14 January 2011, 11:09 AM

Nobody has really done a good study of when the 3186 went into the Explorer II.. Everybody seems to have gone ga-ga over the fact that they were putting them in the 16710 during it's last year of production.

Since the Exp II was not planned to be discontinued, and it was planned for the 3186 to be the only 24hr movement going forward, then it isn't hard to imagine that they began using it sooner, rather than later as compared with the 16710.

I do not think that there is any hard evidence that "all rehaut engraved Exp II's have a 3186"; so if it is a concern, you should check.. It is an easy process..

3185 movements jump the hour hand ~5 hours per revolution of the crown, 3186 movements jump ~8. Beyond that, they function identically....

wisguy · 14 January 2011, 11:38 AM

What's all the hoopla about the 3186?

I've seen GMT's with the 3186 selling for more than a GMTIIc...

Tools · 14 January 2011, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wisguy

What's all the hoopla about the 3186?

I've seen GMT's with the 3186 selling for more than a GMTIIc...

It's an interesting Internet spike that pretty much only exists on the 'net, and is much like the Milgauss GV's that were going for 18,000 or so when it was rumored that they were discontinued...

Time will tell if this phenomena is long lasting. My guess is that it will not be since no Rolex has ever been prized simply because of a modified movement..... Rolex has modified their movements in models for decades....

Others feel differently...

tomchicago · 14 January 2011, 01:57 PM

my M series has 3186 and it is a sweet movement I have to say. M & V series eIIs are your last chance to get non maxi case, non maxi dial 3186 rollie.

JasoninDenver · 14 January 2011, 02:25 PM

Some m series will have the 3186. All v series will.

I bought a v just to be safe.

Garys · 14 January 2011, 03:10 PM

Isn't the 3186 supposed to be more accurate than the 3185?

JasoninDenver · 15 January 2011, 09:52 AM

I think more accurate under certain circumstances like high shock environments.

I heard people have great results from the 3185. My 3186 consistently +1 so I don't know if this is better or not but I am quite happy.

14 January 2011, 10:57 AM	#1
Garys "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Gary Scott Location: Portland, OR Watch: GMT Coke Posts: 67	Explorer II Question When did Rolex start putting the 3186 movement in the Explorer II? Do all Explorer II watches with a 3186 movement have the engraving on the rehaux(?), the inside of the bezel? Thanks

14 January 2011, 11:09 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Nobody has really done a good study of when the 3186 went into the Explorer II.. Everybody seems to have gone ga-ga over the fact that they were putting them in the 16710 during it's last year of production. Since the Exp II was not planned to be discontinued, and it was planned for the 3186 to be the only 24hr movement going forward, then it isn't hard to imagine that they began using it sooner, rather than later as compared with the 16710. I do not think that there is any hard evidence that "all rehaut engraved Exp II's have a 3186"; so if it is a concern, you should check.. It is an easy process.. 3185 movements jump the hour hand ~5 hours per revolution of the crown, 3186 movements jump ~8. Beyond that, they function identically.... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

14 January 2011, 11:38 AM	#3
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	What's all the hoopla about the 3186? I've seen GMT's with the 3186 selling for more than a GMTIIc... __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

14 January 2011, 03:10 PM	#7
Garys "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Gary Scott Location: Portland, OR Watch: GMT Coke Posts: 67	Isn't the 3186 supposed to be more accurate than the 3185? __________________ All I Ask For Is The Chance To Prove That Money Can't Buy Happiness

14 January 2011, 01:57 PM	#5
tomchicago Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Watch: 16710BLRO, 214270. Posts: 2,717	my M series has 3186 and it is a sweet movement I have to say. M & V series eIIs are your last chance to get non maxi case, non maxi dial 3186 rollie.

14 January 2011, 02:25 PM	#6
JasoninDenver 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Denver Posts: 4,284	Some m series will have the 3186. All v series will. I bought a v just to be safe.

15 January 2011, 09:52 AM	#8
JasoninDenver 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Denver Posts: 4,284	I think more accurate under certain circumstances like high shock environments. I heard people have great results from the 3185. My 3186 consistently +1 so I don't know if this is better or not but I am quite happy.

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