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cornerstore · 27 January 2011, 08:29 AM

I was contacted by a fellow Ian Clive using Marks Parts address in London UK regarding my WTB 9315 links listing. As it was a small amount under $200 I did minimal due diligence ,BIG mistake as Western Union seems to be aware of this potential scammer.I will be contacting the UK Police and hopefully this piece of Dog $hit be dealt with.I’ve done 103 transactions since I started this hobby and this is the first time I’ve not gotten what I paid for.So as the saying goes one out of a hundred are thieves ,statistically that seems about right.Beware of this maggot.

Mark's Parts
52 Marylebone High Street
Westminster
London W1U 5HR

Tel: 0207 486 0944

anim · 27 January 2011, 08:40 AM

raw deal patrick, sorry to hear. he'll he gets what he deserves.

I am a current WTBer, and a newbie at that. I imagine *ssholes like this make it hard for legit sellers here to want to sell to those of us without a reputation yet. this seems like a respectable place. I wish there was a way to screen potential thieves, and keep their sorry *sses on ebay.

onkyo · 27 January 2011, 08:47 AM

Sorry to hear this. Was anything shipped to you?

cornerstore · 27 January 2011, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by onkyo

Sorry to hear this. Was anything shipped to you?

Nope he was to send a tracking number two days ago but he seems to have disappeared.

onkyo · 27 January 2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by patrick09

Nope he was to send a tracking number two days ago but he seems to have disappeared.

Does he have a user id here?

sleddog · 27 January 2011, 08:54 AM

What is the members screen name?

cornerstore · 27 January 2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sleddog

What is the members screen name?

He said he was just looking at the site but not a member yet.I know I was a little too casual in my DD

.I had sold a watch to another fellow recently who wasn't a member as he got my email from the sale section as well so I was probably overly confident on this small dealing.Biggest pi$$ off is I still need the links and now I need to try and buy them again

.

sleddog · 27 January 2011, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by patrick09

He said he was just looking at the site but not a member yet.I know I was a little too casual in my DD

.I had sold a watch to another fellow recently who wasn't a member as he got my email from the sale section as well so I was probably overly confident on this small dealing.Biggest pi$$ off is I still need the links and now I need to try and buy them again

.

Not good, especially using Western Union....Not much can be done to trace this unfortunately.
Have you tried calling him?? Or is the number bogus??

The guy's name itself would have thrown up flags for me, and I would have searched it out,address and all!

I hope things still may work out for you in the end....

cornerstore · 27 January 2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sleddog

Not good, especially using Western Union....Not much can be done to trace this unfortunately.
Have you tried calling him?? Or is the number bogus??

The guy's name itself would have thrown up flags for me, and I would have searched it out,address and all!

I hope things still may work out for you in the end....

Western Union says they have all his info.on file name address phone and he appears to be known to them.Tomorrow the Police in UK and Canada will be notified and they will have access to his file, as well Visa(I used it to transfer funds) Fraud also has been notified and they will be looking into him.

sleddog · 27 January 2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by patrick09

Western Union says they have all his info.on file name address phone and he appears to be known to them.Tomorrow the Police in UK and Canada will be notified and they will have access to his file, as well Visa(I used it to transfer funds) Fraud also has been notified and they will be looking into him.

I would suspect it's bogus info, but truely hope it's not for your sake!!

Make sure to report with the police as you said....

onkyo · 27 January 2011, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick09

He said he was just looking at the site but not a member yet.I know I was a little too casual in my DD

.I had sold a watch to another fellow recently who wasn't a member as he got my email from the sale section as well so I was probably overly confident on this small dealing.Biggest pi$$ off is I still need the links and now I need to try and buy them again

.

Again sorry to hear this and thanks for posting the contact info. It will be a lesson learned for you and the rest of us here. Fortunately not a big loss. I can pm you a recommendation for 9315 links.

cornerstore · 27 January 2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by onkyo

Again sorry to hear this and thanks for posting the contact info. It will be a lesson learned for you and the rest of us here. Fortunately not a big loss. I can pm you a recommendation for 9315 links.

Thanks yes a PM would be great .

DCgator · 27 January 2011, 09:32 AM

Bad deal, Patrick. I hope law enforcement catches this piece of dog $hit and throw him in jail for a good while.

onkyo · 27 January 2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by patrick09

Thanks yes a PM would be great .

Pm sent

EvEr34 · 27 January 2011, 09:15 AM

rats roam everywhere!! Getting worse and worse if you ask me. I'm sad to say that in my day to day dealings, it has become increasingly hard to trust anyone on their word. It is sad when you think of it. Anyways...lesson learned I guess.

drtooth73 · 27 January 2011, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick09

I was contacted by a fellow Ian Clive using Marks Parts address in London UK regarding my WTB 9315 links listing. As it was a small amount under $200 I did minimal due diligence ,BIG mistake as Western Union seems to be aware of this potential scammer.I will be contacting the UK Police and hopefully this piece of Dog $hit be dealt with.I’ve done 103 transactions since I started this hobby and this is the first time I’ve not gotten what I paid for.So as the saying goes one out of a hundred are thieves ,statistically that seems about right.Beware of this maggot.

Mark's Parts
52 Marylebone High Street
Westminster
London W1U 5HR

Tel: 0207 486 0944

>> >>here is something similar
>> >> Name: Ian Clive
>> >> Address: 52 Marylebone High Street, London W1U 4RY
>> UK.
>> >> E-mail: [email protected]
>> >>

cornerstore · 27 January 2011, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtooth73

>> >>here is something similar
>> >> Name: Ian Clive
>> >> Address: 52 Marylebone High Street, London W1U 4RY
>> UK.
>> >> E-mail: [email protected]
>> >>

That's him ,how did you come by that?

cornerstore · 27 January 2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by drtooth73

>> >>here is something similar
>> >> Name: Ian Clive
>> >> Address: 52 Marylebone High Street, London W1U 4RY
>> UK.
>> >> E-mail: [email protected]
>> >>

Bill you posted info. above that I didn't post so I'm more than curious where you obtained that email and postal code? I send you a PM as well if you don't want to post your responce here.Thanks

drtooth73 · 27 January 2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by patrick09

Bill you posted info. above that I didn't post so I'm more than curious where you obtained that email and postal code? I send you a PM as well if you don't want to post your responce here.Thanks

pm sent.
he tried to scam me, emailed me in regards to my wtb ad.
seemed "fishy", so i did not proceed with transaction

TimeToGo · 27 January 2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by drtooth73

pm sent.
he tried to scam me, emailed me in regards to my wtb ad.
seemed "fishy", so i did not proceed with transaction

Wow - learned lesson here. May be in the future, we do not wait to get scammed to send out warnings...

Patrick, sorry about this!

drtooth73 · 27 January 2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Wow - learned lesson here. May be in the future, we do not wait to get scammed to send out warnings...

Patrick, sorry about this!

TimeToGo: I typically post something when someone tries to scam me, did not want to bad mouth "Ian Clive" without a solid proof.
(especially after my infamous thread; btw, thanks for lightening the mood there with Root canal comment)

phantom357 · 27 January 2011, 11:25 PM

Thanks for the heads up.

Sent from my Evo using Tapatalk. Excuse my brevity.

Welshwatchman · 28 January 2011, 12:22 AM

So the person who scammed you was not an established member here.

So you didn't get scammed here then. You got scammed by someone who has a computer somewhere.

It's good that Western Union know he's a bad 'un though.

It means that they should refund you as they admit knowing that they were passing money to a known criminal.

cornerstore · 28 January 2011, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

So the person who scammed you was not an established member here.

So you didn't get scammed here then. You got scammed by someone who has a computer somewhere.

It's good that Western Union know he's a bad 'un though.

It means that they should refund you as they admit knowing that they were passing money to a known criminal.

Established member ? I have no idea but presume not. Scammed here from my email address in my WTB listing yes.The somewhere is London and yes it was via computer.I will have to wait and see how it plays out on a refund but I’m not optimistic.I posted this to alert others as this person seemingly scams for nickels and dimes, really a pathetic existence for him.He either lacks the ambition or intelligence to really make his crimes pay

.At lot of risk for the potential payoff. I think this type of scammer is more dangerous than big money scammers as this type of petty scam is the least expected.

beowulf566 · 28 January 2011, 04:07 AM

this "Ian Clive" sent me an e-mail from my want to buy add as well. I could not find him as a member here and ignored the e-mail. He also tried to sell me "parts" and the add was for a complete watch. Anyone can google info about rolex and get to threads from here. It just makes me more sure to check with members here before making any moves.

cornerstore · 28 January 2011, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beowulf566

this "Ian Clive" sent me an e-mail from my want to buy add as well. I could not find him as a member here and ignored the e-mail. He also tried to sell me "parts" and the add was for a complete watch. Anyone can google info about rolex and get to threads from here. It just makes me more sure to check with members here before making any moves.

Sometimes my frustration takes precedent over my rational thought process. It has been one calamity after another trying to get four folded links so he got me at a point of maximum frustration.I feel pity for him as he is a lousy crook with low expectations, probably a pickpocket going up scale.

beowulf566 · 29 January 2011, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick09

Sometimes my frustration takes precedent over my rational thought process. It has been one calamity after another trying to get four folded links so he got me at a point of maximum frustration.I feel pity for him as he is a lousy crook with low expectations, probably a pickpocket going up scale.

I understand and sorry it happened to you. Hope you find the links you need.

Rickster · 2 February 2011, 01:35 PM

I've owned a retail store and an online store. I have been scammed in the past. I feel the real crooks are credit card companies and in this case Western Union. Its baloney that people can use their services to rip you off. So what is Western unions excuse for not having the guys proper name and address? Let me guess they blamed you? pfff... thats a joke.

Sorry about your deal but until the gov comes in and makes these companies responsible for this neglect on THEIR part its going to continue to happen its just too easy to do.

cornerstore · 5 February 2011, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickster

I've owned a retail store and an online store. I have been scammed in the past. I feel the real crooks are credit card companies and in this case Western Union. Its baloney that people can use their services to rip you off. So what is Western unions excuse for not having the guys proper name and address? Let me guess they blamed you? pfff... thats a joke.

Sorry about your deal but until the gov comes in and makes these companies responsible for this neglect on THEIR part its going to continue to happen its just too easy to do.

I could not believe Western Union would release funds to someone already on their radar.

paultran37 · 10 February 2011, 08:05 AM

Sorry to hear that Patrick. I know how it feels like to be scammed. Hope you/they get that scumbag.

27 January 2011, 08:29 AM	#1
cornerstore "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 4,010	Got scammed here on WTB by Ian Clive I was contacted by a fellow Ian Clive using Marks Parts address in London UK regarding my WTB 9315 links listing. As it was a small amount under $200 I did minimal due diligence ,BIG mistake as Western Union seems to be aware of this potential scammer.I will be contacting the UK Police and hopefully this piece of Dog $hit be dealt with.I’ve done 103 transactions since I started this hobby and this is the first time I’ve not gotten what I paid for.So as the saying goes one out of a hundred are thieves ,statistically that seems about right.Beware of this maggot. Mark's Parts 52 Marylebone High Street Westminster London W1U 5HR Tel: 0207 486 0944

27 January 2011, 08:54 AM	#6
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	What is the members screen name? __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

28 January 2011, 12:22 AM	#23
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	So the person who scammed you was not an established member here. So you didn't get scammed here then. You got scammed by someone who has a computer somewhere. It's good that Western Union know he's a bad 'un though. It means that they should refund you as they admit knowing that they were passing money to a known criminal. __________________ ..33

28 January 2011, 04:07 AM	#25
beowulf566 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Matt Location: new hampshire Watch: Rlx,Omga,CyS,brtln Posts: 1,520	this "Ian Clive" sent me an e-mail from my want to buy add as well. I could not find him as a member here and ignored the e-mail. He also tried to sell me "parts" and the add was for a complete watch. Anyone can google info about rolex and get to threads from here. It just makes me more sure to check with members here before making any moves. __________________ R.I.P. Smoke em' if you got em'

27 January 2011, 08:40 AM	#2
anim Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: canada Posts: 38	raw deal patrick, sorry to hear. he'll he gets what he deserves. I am a current WTBer, and a newbie at that. I imagine ssholes like this make it hard for legit sellers here to want to sell to those of us without a reputation yet. this seems like a respectable place. I wish there was a way to screen potential thieves, and keep their sorry sses on ebay.

27 January 2011, 08:47 AM	#3
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Sorry to hear this. Was anything shipped to you?

27 January 2011, 09:32 AM	#13
DCgator "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PNW Watch: DS,BLNR,SubLV,DJ2 Posts: 8,123	Bad deal, Patrick. I hope law enforcement catches this piece of dog $hit and throw him in jail for a good while.

27 January 2011, 09:15 AM	#15
EvEr34 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,909	rats roam everywhere!! Getting worse and worse if you ask me. I'm sad to say that in my day to day dealings, it has become increasingly hard to trust anyone on their word. It is sad when you think of it. Anyways...lesson learned I guess.

27 January 2011, 11:25 PM	#22
phantom357 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jack Daniels Land Watch: me drink Guinness! Posts: 373	Thanks for the heads up. Sent from my Evo using Tapatalk. Excuse my brevity.

2 February 2011, 01:35 PM	#28
Rickster "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Rick Location: London, Ont. Posts: 666	I've owned a retail store and an online store. I have been scammed in the past. I feel the real crooks are credit card companies and in this case Western Union. Its baloney that people can use their services to rip you off. So what is Western unions excuse for not having the guys proper name and address? Let me guess they blamed you? pfff... thats a joke. Sorry about your deal but until the gov comes in and makes these companies responsible for this neglect on THEIR part its going to continue to happen its just too easy to do.

10 February 2011, 08:05 AM	#30
paultran37 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: paul Location: virginia Watch: PRESIDENT 118238 Z Posts: 455	Sorry to hear that Patrick. I know how it feels like to be scammed. Hope you/they get that scumbag.

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