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Medtech · 25 February 2011, 06:41 AM

The more I look at the old standard sub bracelet (ie 93150) the more I think it's design is sheer genius in it's simple form and function.

What do you guys think?

xelor63 · 25 February 2011, 06:51 AM

It sounds cheap.

XELOR

xelor63 · 25 February 2011, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xelor63

It sounds cheap.

XELOR

But I love that sound, thats why I have spare one.

XELOR

MonBK · 25 February 2011, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xelor63

But I love that sound, thats why I have spare one.

XELOR

Then you can rattle in Stereo.

steubi1 · 25 February 2011, 07:00 AM

Genius.

Proven reliability for decades....

Tom

Dr. Robert · 25 February 2011, 06:53 AM

Genius.....I am a big fan of the old lightweight rattly SS oyster bracelet.

MonBK · 25 February 2011, 06:56 AM

If you like lightweight, cheap and rattly SS then yes, it's genius (marketing).

esm · 25 February 2011, 06:57 AM

im a big fan of the 16610 Oyster Bracelet - its functional. Job done. no complaints.

however, IMO, the 116610 Oyster Bracelet is just a notch or two better than the 16610 Oyster Bracelet in every aspect.

i like them both.

karmatp · 25 February 2011, 07:01 AM

They lasted that's for sure, hard to complain. The fact is that for the price the subs are getting, they needed to do a major upgrade, and they did. The new bracelet and clasp is amazing, the old bracelets and clasp do not even compare to fit, finish and comfort.

Finally Rolex introduced a watch that just might be worth the MSRP with the new subs.

dddrees · 25 February 2011, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esm

im a big fan of the 16610 Oyster Bracelet - its functional. Job done. no complaints.

however, IMO, the 116610 Oyster Bracelet is just a notch or two better than the 16610 Oyster Bracelet in every aspect.

i like them both.

X2

In my case my new bracelet is on my GMTIIC.

But as Eric said I do like both for different reasons.

Hansch99 · 25 February 2011, 07:01 AM

The clasp is superior to the new style, which doesn't seem as reliable. But I like the solid center links, as they won't stretch.

acce1999 · 25 February 2011, 07:05 AM

I like them. I find that a well used 93150 or 78360 is extremely comfortable, and also reliable thanks to the very simple construction. But I remember my first meeting with them, and I was not impressed. But I am now. I even prefer them over the more updated versions with solid end links.

I have to admit though that the current all solid bracelets offers a massive, and nice, feeling of presence on the wrist.

Further on I also prefer the 78360/93150 compared to the older folded 7836/9315. But the riveted Oysters are cool.

Best,

A

Dan Pierce · 25 February 2011, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acce1999

I like them. I find that a well used 93150 or 78360 is extremely comfortable, and also reliable thanks to the very simple construction. But I remember my first meeting with them, and I was not impressed. But I am now. I even prefer them over the more updated versions with solid end links.

I have to admit though that the current all solid bracelets offers a massive, and nice, feeling of presence on the wrist.

Further on I also prefer the 78360/93150 compared to the older folded 7836/9315. But the riveted Oysters are cool.

Best,

A

I have to agree, Anders.

I do, however, love the SEL and lug hole combo on my 16710.

Ebruner · 25 February 2011, 07:06 AM

Genius.

-Eddie

Noonan · 25 February 2011, 07:09 AM

I couldn't get used to the feel after wearing Omegas and Breitlings for years. I never doubted that it would last but it was too light/flimsy for my taste.

WARVET · 25 February 2011, 07:09 AM

Good question, I like my GMTII Bracelet, I don't think it is cheap, The old Bracelet really needs to be evaluated in the closed position on the wrist

Does bracelet secure the watch without falling apart inadvertently. YES
Is the Bracelet comfortably Yes
Are you constantly removing and readjusting your watch No
Are you always worried about scratching your bracelet No
Does the Bracelet form as near as possible
a seamless transition when closed YES

crowncollection · 25 February 2011, 07:14 AM

i agree the old band in genius,

mike · 25 February 2011, 07:17 AM

I've used them for over four decades. They're strong and they work.

Yes the new bracelet is nice, but don't overlook the older style.

TempoKing · 25 February 2011, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

I've used them for over four decades. They're strong and they work.

Yes the new bracelet is nice, but don't overlook the older style.

Me too over 4 decades...

Rob_b · 25 February 2011, 07:15 AM

Genius

I'm quite fond of my rattle

But, with the advent of the newer bracelets, it is now relegated classic.

The GMT Master · 25 February 2011, 07:19 AM

Functional, but feels very old fashioned these days. The new clasps take the traditional functionality and build on it: Glidelock is one of the most nicely executed clasps that money can buy right now

Minutehand · 25 February 2011, 07:22 AM

I have watches with oyster bracelets in both the old and the new style - all bought in the last couple of years as I am a new Rolex junkie. While the new style is good and I enjoyed them from the start, the old style is continuously growing on me and I think they have more character!

I think they are simple and efficient and therein lies the beauty.

RRGHOST1 · 25 February 2011, 07:34 AM

The old style clasps were funtional but did seem a bit cheap compared to the head of the watch. The new ones including the Glidelock are far more in keeping with the watch IMO.

Paracentesis · 25 February 2011, 07:43 AM

Old = genius. Does the job.

If you don't particularly like the new watch heads, who cares how fantastic the new bracelets are?

Clay · 25 February 2011, 07:45 AM

Shear Genius.....

Tools · 25 February 2011, 07:49 AM

Considering when they were made, there was nothing like them at the time..

Sheer genious in the design: Lightweight and compact while using an engineering standard for strength and reliability..........

they have recently only improved upon what was an original, killer design....

Jason71 · 25 February 2011, 08:01 AM

Simple, strong, and reliable. I prefer the 93150 over the new style.

Chipmunk · 25 February 2011, 08:04 AM

Old Style Submarineer = Genius

Dweller of the Sea · 25 February 2011, 08:15 AM

These bracelets came in the 70es, and back then they were genius and state of art. Today, and the last 10 years, they have been the laughing stock, because of the poor quality compared to other brands, but sold for very high prices.
I love both my 78360 and 93150, they wear great and will last my lifetime. I love the new quality bracelet, these should have been introduced 10 years ago.
I find the quality of the old TT bracelets just terrible, hollow links! Come on. A several thousand dollar watch, that has a streched bracelet for scrap in 10-15 years, thats just not good business.

cgjane · 25 February 2011, 08:33 AM

Everything of Genius is Simple.

25 February 2011, 06:41 AM	#1
Medtech Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: West-siide! Watch: it buddy! Posts: 334	Old style Submariner Bracelet - Simple Genius, or Cheap? The more I look at the old standard sub bracelet (ie 93150) the more I think it's design is sheer genius in it's simple form and function. What do you guys think?

25 February 2011, 06:53 AM	#6
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,258	Genius.....I am a big fan of the old lightweight rattly SS oyster bracelet. __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

25 February 2011, 07:01 AM	#9
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	They lasted that's for sure, hard to complain. The fact is that for the price the subs are getting, they needed to do a major upgrade, and they did. The new bracelet and clasp is amazing, the old bracelets and clasp do not even compare to fit, finish and comfort. Finally Rolex introduced a watch that just might be worth the MSRP with the new subs. __________________ My grails:

25 February 2011, 07:06 AM	#14
Ebruner "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Eddie Location: Kentucky Watch: 118208 Posts: 2,510	Genius. -Eddie __________________

25 February 2011, 07:15 AM	#20
Rob_b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Brisbane AUS Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 850	Genius I'm quite fond of my rattle But, with the advent of the newer bracelets, it is now relegated classic. __________________ Travelling Through Time at The Speed of Life.

25 February 2011, 06:51 AM	#2
xelor63 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: netherlands Posts: 3,703	It sounds cheap. XELOR

25 February 2011, 07:00 AM	#5
steubi1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: Switzerland Watch: too many Posts: 1,150	Genius. Proven reliability for decades.... Tom

25 February 2011, 06:56 AM	#7
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	If you like lightweight, cheap and rattly SS then yes, it's genius (marketing).

25 February 2011, 06:57 AM	#8
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	im a big fan of the 16610 Oyster Bracelet - its functional. Job done. no complaints. however, IMO, the 116610 Oyster Bracelet is just a notch or two better than the 16610 Oyster Bracelet in every aspect. i like them both.

25 February 2011, 07:01 AM	#11
Hansch99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Watch: 14060M, 116200 Posts: 318	The clasp is superior to the new style, which doesn't seem as reliable. But I like the solid center links, as they won't stretch.

25 February 2011, 07:05 AM	#12
acce1999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GMT+1 Posts: 2,711	I like them. I find that a well used 93150 or 78360 is extremely comfortable, and also reliable thanks to the very simple construction. But I remember my first meeting with them, and I was not impressed. But I am now. I even prefer them over the more updated versions with solid end links. I have to admit though that the current all solid bracelets offers a massive, and nice, feeling of presence on the wrist. Further on I also prefer the 78360/93150 compared to the older folded 7836/9315. But the riveted Oysters are cool. Best, A

25 February 2011, 07:09 AM	#15
Noonan Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: US Watch: 3570.50 Posts: 2,156	I couldn't get used to the feel after wearing Omegas and Breitlings for years. I never doubted that it would last but it was too light/flimsy for my taste.

25 February 2011, 07:09 AM	#16
WARVET "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Vincent Location: Louisiana Watch: 16710 Coke Posts: 448	Good question, I like my GMTII Bracelet, I don't think it is cheap, The old Bracelet really needs to be evaluated in the closed position on the wrist Does bracelet secure the watch without falling apart inadvertently. YES Is the Bracelet comfortably Yes Are you constantly removing and readjusting your watch No Are you always worried about scratching your bracelet No Does the Bracelet form as near as possible a seamless transition when closed YES

25 February 2011, 07:14 AM	#17
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	i agree the old band in genius,

25 February 2011, 07:17 AM	#18
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I've used them for over four decades. They're strong and they work. Yes the new bracelet is nice, but don't overlook the older style.

25 February 2011, 07:19 AM	#21
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	Functional, but feels very old fashioned these days. The new clasps take the traditional functionality and build on it: Glidelock is one of the most nicely executed clasps that money can buy right now

25 February 2011, 07:22 AM	#22
Minutehand "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AE Location: Right here Posts: 294	I have watches with oyster bracelets in both the old and the new style - all bought in the last couple of years as I am a new Rolex junkie. While the new style is good and I enjoyed them from the start, the old style is continuously growing on me and I think they have more character! I think they are simple and efficient and therein lies the beauty. __________________ Time is a luxury

25 February 2011, 07:34 AM	#23
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,997	The old style clasps were funtional but did seem a bit cheap compared to the head of the watch. The new ones including the Glidelock are far more in keeping with the watch IMO.

25 February 2011, 07:43 AM	#24
Paracentesis Banned Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: Tissot Posts: 1,454	Old = genius. Does the job. If you don't particularly like the new watch heads, who cares how fantastic the new bracelets are?

25 February 2011, 07:45 AM	#25
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	Shear Genius.....

25 February 2011, 07:49 AM	#26
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Considering when they were made, there was nothing like them at the time.. Sheer genious in the design: Lightweight and compact while using an engineering standard for strength and reliability.......... they have recently only improved upon what was an original, killer design.... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

25 February 2011, 08:01 AM	#27
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Simple, strong, and reliable. I prefer the 93150 over the new style. __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

25 February 2011, 08:04 AM	#28
Chipmunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Alvin Location: So Cal Watch: ROLEXES Posts: 5,390	Old Style Submarineer = Genius __________________ "A thing of beauty is a joy forever"............John Keats

25 February 2011, 08:15 AM	#29
Dweller of the Sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: EU Watch: ing TRF Posts: 576	These bracelets came in the 70es, and back then they were genius and state of art. Today, and the last 10 years, they have been the laughing stock, because of the poor quality compared to other brands, but sold for very high prices. I love both my 78360 and 93150, they wear great and will last my lifetime. I love the new quality bracelet, these should have been introduced 10 years ago. I find the quality of the old TT bracelets just terrible, hollow links! Come on. A several thousand dollar watch, that has a streched bracelet for scrap in 10-15 years, thats just not good business.

25 February 2011, 08:33 AM	#30
cgjane "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Houston Watch: 116509 BlackArabic Posts: 1,176	Everything of Genius is Simple. __________________ Life is an adventure or nothing at all.

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