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Old 11 March 2011, 09:43 PM   #1
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Ok so some of you know I bought a brand new datejust ii from my local ad. I just came back overseas so I just wounded it a few times to change the time (not 40 times like recommended). I've been wearing it since for the last 2 weeks with no problems. I take it off everyday for about 10 hours before I tale a shower and go to bed. Last night I took it off about 7pm and put it back on at 8am. But I noticed it stopped at 7.30am. I thought it was supposed to last 48 hours until it stops and not 12hours?? Is it because 2 weeks ago I didn't wound it 40 times? Should I take it back to the AD? It was running about +1 sec previous so it was pretty accurate. Many thanks glad we're back online!
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Old 11 March 2011, 09:51 PM   #2
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Ok so some of you know I bought a brand new datejust ii from my local ad. I just came back overseas so I just wounded it a few times to change the time (not 40 times like recommended). I've been wearing it since for the last 2 weeks with no problems. I take it off everyday for about 10 hours before I tale a shower and go to bed. Last night I took it off about 7pm and put it back on at 8am. But I noticed it stopped at 7.30am. I thought it was supposed to last 48 hours until it stops and not 12hours?? Is it because 2 weeks ago I didn't wound it 40 times? Should I take it back to the AD? It was running about +1 sec previous so it was pretty accurate. Many thanks glad we're back online!
The 48 power reserve is only when it's fully wound - the likelihood is that it's just naturally ran down, just wearing it for 13 hours a day isn't enough to completely wind it. Just give it 40 turns, keep wearing it, and maybe give it a top up manual wind every couple of weeks, and you'll keep your watch performing at its best. It's also better to keep the watch close to fully wound as it improves the stability of the timekeeping - when a watch is close to the bottom end of its power band, it can gain time. I seriously doubt there's a big problem here, just a maintenance issue
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Old 11 March 2011, 10:30 PM   #3
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The 48 power reserve is only when it's fully wound - the likelihood is that it's just naturally ran down, just wearing it for 13 hours a day isn't enough to completely wind it. Just give it 40 turns, keep wearing it, and maybe give it a top up manual wind every couple of weeks, and you'll keep your watch performing at its best. It's also better to keep the watch close to fully wound as it improves the stability of the timekeeping - when a watch is close to the bottom end of its power band, it can gain time. I seriously doubt there's a big problem here, just a maintenance issue
X2.And will add even when worn regularly I would still recommend a full manual wind say once a week.
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Old 22 March 2011, 11:09 AM   #4
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The 48 power reserve is only when it's fully wound - the likelihood is that it's just naturally ran down, just wearing it for 13 hours a day isn't enough to completely wind it. Just give it 40 turns, keep wearing it, and maybe give it a top up manual wind every couple of weeks, and you'll keep your watch performing at its best. It's also better to keep the watch close to fully wound as it improves the stability of the timekeeping - when a watch is close to the bottom end of its power band, it can gain time. I seriously doubt there's a big problem here, just a maintenance issue
X2 Chris, well said!
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Old 11 March 2011, 09:56 PM   #5
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Thanks buddy. Sorry for the newbie question it's my first rolex! So would you recommend a watch winder? I've only got 1 watch...and I never slept with it on. Cheers!!
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Old 11 March 2011, 10:34 PM   #6
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Thanks buddy. Sorry for the newbie question it's my first rolex! So would you recommend a watch winder? I've only got 1 watch...and I never slept with it on. Cheers!!
Don't worry, it's a common problem, the salesperson really should have explained it at the point of the sale. As for a watchwinder, I wouldn't bother - winding a Rolex takes 20 seconds at most, and only a little longer to completely set up the time and date. Keep the extra cash in your pocket
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Old 11 March 2011, 11:07 PM   #7
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Don't worry, it's a common problem, the salesperson really should have explained it at the point of the sale. As for a watchwinder, I wouldn't bother - winding a Rolex takes 20 seconds at most, and only a little longer to completely set up the time and date. Keep the extra cash in your pocket
Do you recommend winding it manually once a week because that is what I do. I wear it 5 days and have it off two days so it stops before I wear it again. I fully wind it by 40 turns before I wear it again for 5 days, will that wear out the crown gasket or anything in the movement at all? Is it better to let it self wind to reduce any wear and tear rather than manual winding?

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Old 12 March 2011, 12:06 AM   #8
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Do you recommend winding it manually once a week because that is what I do. I wear it 5 days and have it off two days so it stops before I wear it again. I fully wind it by 40 turns before I wear it again for 5 days, will that wear out the crown gasket or anything in the movement at all? Is it better to let it self wind to reduce any wear and tear rather than manual winding?
You'll be absolutely fine manual winding it, Rolex movements are pretty much the toughest available on the market. It wasn't that long ago that Rolex used manual wind movements in Oyster watches, and they would be wound every day, and they were using standard Twinlock crowns. You've got nothing to worry about winding once per week
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Old 12 March 2011, 12:23 AM   #9
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You'll be absolutely fine manual winding it, Rolex movements are pretty much the toughest available on the market. It wasn't that long ago that Rolex used manual wind movements in Oyster watches, and they would be wound every day, and they were using standard Twinlock crowns. You've got nothing to worry about winding once per week
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Old 11 March 2011, 11:42 PM   #10
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Thanks buddy. Sorry for the newbie question it's my first rolex! So would you recommend a watch winder? I've only got 1 watch...and I never slept with it on. Cheers!!
Sleep with the watch on, it wont harm it. Welcome.
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Old 11 March 2011, 11:14 PM   #11
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Rolex attached the crown for a reason...........use it.
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Old 12 March 2011, 12:17 AM   #12
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Old 12 March 2011, 05:55 AM   #13
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Waste of money getting a watch winder,put the money towards another Rolex or go on holiday. As said just wind the watch fully,i take it the watch started again after you wound it or put it on your wrist. If it was ok, then it was just a winding issue.
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Old 12 March 2011, 09:15 AM   #14
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Thanks guys! Woke up this morning and after a shower I did a full 40 winds :) then gave it a soapy bath to start the day hehe thanks!
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Old 12 March 2011, 09:21 AM   #15
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Thanks guys! Woke up this morning and after a shower I did a full 40 winds :) then gave it a soapy bath to start the day hehe thanks!
You should be good to go now!
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Old 22 March 2011, 11:07 AM   #16
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I have had my GMT since early February and this morning was the first time it had stopped during the night. I have worn it just about every day, sometimes I wear my IWC during the week, but on weekends I may not wear the Rolex one or both days. I only wound it 20 times this morning as I was in a hurry to get out of the house and could not remember what the manual stated for number of winds to use. I thought 20 would be "safe." So, according to above info, 40 winds once per week is OK? Can you overwind a GMT? Is 20x each day better or worse than 40x once per week? Since I have 20 winds already today, what should I do now? I know, it is a newbie question. Oh, my IWC never makes it through the night ever, even after 40x each morning. It is refreshing to only have to wind the Rolex occasionally. Any help/suggestions appreciated. Now to find that manual...
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I have had my GMT since early February and this morning was the first time it had stopped during the night. I have worn it just about every day, sometimes I wear my IWC during the week, but on weekends I may not wear the Rolex one or both days. I only wound it 20 times this morning as I was in a hurry to get out of the house and could not remember what the manual stated for number of winds to use. I thought 20 would be "safe." So, according to above info, 40 winds once per week is OK? Can you overwind a GMT? Is 20x each day better or worse than 40x once per week? Since I have 20 winds already today, what should I do now? I know, it is a newbie question. Oh, my IWC never makes it through the night ever, even after 40x each morning. It is refreshing to only have to wind the Rolex occasionally. Any help/suggestions appreciated. Now to find that manual...
40 turns is a full wind!
You can not overwind your watch....
Once a week would be a better choice IMO if you are wearing your watch all day for at least 5 days a week.
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40 turns is a full wind!
You can not overwind your watch....
Once a week would be a better choice IMO if you are wearing your watch all day for at least 5 days a week.
Can you hear the clutch slipping once you have reached maximum wind on the mainspring?
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40 turns is a full wind!
You can not overwind your watch....
Once a week would be a better choice IMO if you are wearing your watch all day for at least 5 days a week.
I find it interesting that the manual does not mention the number of winds for a full wind. Anyone else think that is odd? The AD did not explain to me "how to use the watch..." He did not have time. I knew I wanted to purchase it, the price was right, and the ship was sailing from the dock down the street in 20 minutes!
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Your watch is always the most accurate at the top 1/3 of it's main spring (power reserve). I have done tests and it is suprizing how accurate a automatic can be if kept wound up.
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I wear mine 24/7, but I will follow the advice here and fully wind it once a week to keep it topped off for accuracy's sake. Thanks.
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I find it interesting that the manual does not mention the number of winds for a full wind. Anyone else think that is odd? The AD did not explain to me "how to use the watch..." He did not have time. I knew I wanted to purchase it, the price was right, and the ship was sailing from the dock down the street in 20 minutes!
You'd think it would be noted in the accompanying booklets....
Your salesperson should however take the time to explain everything to you including the winding IMO!
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I wear mine 24/7, but I will follow the advice here and fully wind it once a week to keep it topped off for accuracy's sake. Thanks.
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You'd think it would be noted in the accompanying booklets....
Your salesperson should however take the time to explain everything to you including the winding IMO!
Yup, I totally agree with you. He should have, but I actually had to hurry him along with the purchase paperwork, sizing, etc... or we were going to miss our on-board time. Our ship docked late that day, so by the time we were at the AD downtown after a day on the beach, they were getting ready to close-up shop (typically all the ships have departed by that time of day.) Our ship was leaving an hour later than normal, due to the late arrival, which took all the shop keepers on the island by surprise that day.
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In ten years of wearing Rolex watches, I have never, not even once, had to manually wind a daily-worn watch. I take it off at night, put it back on the next morning, and that's it. In fact, even if I wear my 16610 on alternate days, it never needs winding.
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In ten years of wearing Rolex watches, I have never, not even once, had to manually wind a daily-worn watch. I take it off at night, put it back on the next morning, and that's it. In fact, even if I wear my 16610 on alternate days, it never needs winding.
Ditto. And for even more years. But I guess I am active enough to have the watch fully wound every day.

The first seven years I had my Explorer 14270 I unscrewed the crown two times a year, at daylight savings time. It was pretty much spot on all the time, and I wore it daily.

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In ten years of wearing Rolex watches, I have never, not even once, had to manually wind a daily-worn watch. I take it off at night, put it back on the next morning, and that's it. In fact, even if I wear my 16610 on alternate days, it never needs winding.

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Just move your arms more during the day. Perhaps in a repetitive up and down motion.
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Just move your arms more during the day. Perhaps in a repetitive up and down motion.
Both arms? That's what I call bragging.
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Both arms? That's what I call bragging.
Not both arms?... That's what I call unfortunate!
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