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MILFAN · 6 April 2011, 12:21 AM

Hallo

Anyone in the colchester , essex area willing to help me check out a forum member, who has scammed me.

He says he lives in Colchester, Essex
He said his wife is Met Police officer

And the reference he gave me was fake, false. I should have checked before .

All help would be appreciated. PM me for the address please.

He gave a number , then he said, his phone was lost.

Cheers
M

Welshwatchman · 6 April 2011, 01:28 AM

Bump this one up there and changed the title, too vague IMO.

Perhaps you can give us the gist of the story so far, including which method you used to pay "Mike".

RJC · 6 April 2011, 01:40 AM

No way. What are the circumstances my friend?

Jan Davis · 6 April 2011, 01:48 AM

Please be more detailed.

Rolex116520 · 6 April 2011, 01:49 AM

Firstly sorry to hear what happened.
How did you pay ? You must have an address linked to the bank account or paypal ? I can not imagine you fell for paying via Western Union or something .
He says he lives in Colchester , but as he gave you wrong/ fake references that could not be true either .

roach7 · 6 April 2011, 01:54 AM

i think this is in reference to this for sale?

http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....70&postcount=1

Rolex116520 · 6 April 2011, 02:03 AM

Last activity this morning UK time with a last post 2 april . Can the webmaster or the moderators pull up IP with a location for that post or last login ?

MILFAN · 6 April 2011, 02:24 AM

I paid via bank to his partners account , after he confirmed the payment, he promised to send the watch by courier. Then the problems started, it was today, tomorrow. tomorrow tomorrow.

Saturday last, he said he was waiting for the UPS to turn up at his door. And then after that no response , until monday morning. He was going to send on Monday and i get on tuesday. On tuesday , i checked for the reference , they never heard of him, (stupid, stupid me)
He then sent an email saying he would refund. Now i sent him the email with details.
I dont believe him at all anymore.

He always blames the courier companies.

I bought here from Rjc, and I had a wonderful experience. Couldnt go wrong I thought.

Cheers
M

MonBK · 6 April 2011, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MILFAN

I paid via bank to his partners account , after he confirmed the payment, he promised to send the watch by courier. Then the problems started, it was today, tomorrow. tomorrow tomorrow.

Saturday last, he said he was waiting for the UPS to turn up at his door. And then after that no response , until monday morning. He was going to send on Monday and i get on tuesday. On tuesday , i checked for the reference , they never heard of him, (stupid, stupid me)
He then sent an email saying he would refund. Now i sent him the email with details.
I dont believe him at all anymore.

He always blames the courier companies.

I bought here from Rjc, and I had a wonderful experience. Couldnt go wrong I thought.

Cheers
M

Hi Milfan, I noticed your location is "here&everywhere", where exactly is that?

Hope this gets sorted out for you.

MILFAN · 6 April 2011, 02:43 AM

I live in the NL.

Cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Hi Milfan, I noticed your location is "here&everywhere", where exactly is that?

Hope this gets sorted out for you.

Explorer 2011 · 6 April 2011, 02:33 AM

I hate to say it but is there a chance he may not be in the essex area? That could all be a smokescreen? I really hope you get this sorted out Milfan and you get your watch / money back...

Welshwatchman · 6 April 2011, 03:28 AM

I know there's a little activity going on "behind the scenes" but I do implore you already to have contacted your bank to arrange a reversal.

Straight onto the authorities and bang a big drum. You'll be surprised how interconnected the authorities are since 2001. You need to make a politely intense and persistent nuisance of yourself and soon someone will be tracking this "Mike" character down.

Lethargy is your enemy.

Rolex116520 · 6 April 2011, 03:33 AM

I understand that this has already been done . Some indications would suggest that members from Oxfordshire could become useful too .

spuds · 6 April 2011, 04:12 AM

Weren't Mikes first few posts about how HE'D been scammed/mugged or something??

PM replied to Milfan.

bugsychiou · 6 April 2011, 07:22 PM

Yep.... he was going on about somebody jumping him for his Patek, everybody was sorry and he played it really well..

Concerning the LV he even had the guts to post this:

http://50.30.33.71/~trfcom/showthrea...hlight=Mike_UK

Some people are just lame... and the think that I almost got the LV from him

Quote:

Originally Posted by spuds

Weren't Mikes first few posts about how HE'D been scammed/mugged or something??

PM replied to Milfan.

MILFAN · 6 April 2011, 04:23 AM

Found this guy.

K Fowle
Tel: (01844) 345288 - Text Number
Woodstock , Whiteleaf, Princes Risborough, HP27 0LY - Map

I am going to check this .

Cheers

bayerische · 6 April 2011, 04:46 AM

If I'm wrong, I apologize to "Mike_UK", but his activity and story was a bit suspect from the start.

Explorer 2011 · 6 April 2011, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

If I'm wrong, I apologize to "Mike_UK", but his activity and story was a bit suspect from the start.

Just read through some of his posts and I have to say I agree...some seem very suspect now you look back on it.

bayerische · 6 April 2011, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Explorer 2011

Just read through some of his posts and I have to say I agree...some seem very suspect now you look back on it.

I didn't want to comment on his stories back then, but somewhat similar to "Bassethounds" stories about theft etc etc.

Explorer 2011 · 6 April 2011, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

I didn't want to comment on his stories back then, but somewhat similar to "Bassethounds" stories about theft etc etc.

Just looked up Bassethounds (and Dalips thread). Damn thats one long sorry story. This all makes me more wary of things. I'm not planning on buying a watch for next few months but was going to do so here on TRF. I'll be doing my homework first!

Heres hoping Milfan gets sorted out and if Mike_Uk is a fraud, then he's tracked down.

Porsche · 6 April 2011, 05:18 AM

Even his FS listing is inconsistent. He says must sell watches and under pressure from wife, then at the end offers to swap for a Milgauss?

I suppose always easier to dissect these things with hindsight lighting the way...

Rolex116520 · 6 April 2011, 05:32 AM

I have had several mail exchanges with MILFAN and together we have found some disturbing new elements . Oxfordshire , Colchester and Woodstock could very well be out of the picture altogether .
Going through the bank details the seller provided a flagrant inconsistency was not spotted initially . MILFAN is filing complaints everywhere and I will leave it up to him to disclose more details if he wishes to do so .

bayerische · 6 April 2011, 05:35 AM

That sucks, big time.

Rolex tom · 6 April 2011, 06:00 AM

Damn this guy mike has some long posts

Silver Lobster · 6 April 2011, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolex tom

Damn this guy mike has some long posts

He also name drops like it's going out of fashion. Obviously Rlx is going to come up!

But all the other brand names are a bit much

. If I was being cynical I would say he is painting a picture of wealth so as not to appear as a two bit fly-by-night. But I could be way off, maybe it's just the way he came across...either way I hope it gets sorted and all this is down to a miscommunication.

MILFAN · 6 April 2011, 06:01 AM

OK i think after some searching and trying to figure out the details.
He sent an nationwide account no and sort code, but the iban and swift were from HSBC.

I have already filed complaints with my bank, actionfraud in the UK with the accounts and the polish names that came up in my search for this person.

I will try to update as and when i can find some thing .

Atleast its a lesson not buy from some one with a sob story.

Thanks to a lot of guys here who are searching and helping.

Cheers

Jonathan007 · 26 April 2011, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MILFAN

OK i think after some searching and trying to figure out the details.
He sent an nationwide account no and sort code, but the iban and swift were from HSBC.

I have already filed complaints with my bank, actionfraud in the UK with the accounts and the polish names that came up in my search for this person.

I will try to update as and when i can find some thing .

Atleast its a lesson not buy from some one with a sob story.

Thanks to a lot of guys here who are searching and helping.

Cheers

You keep plugging away on this my friend!

Hopefully it will bite this lying thief exactly where it hurts!!

Best wishes

Jon

spuds · 6 April 2011, 06:12 AM

So if his bank account details were wrong how did you pay Milfan?

(NOT meant in any way underhandedly... just curious as to why this wasn't picked up by the bank).

Rolex116520 · 6 April 2011, 07:02 AM

The seller gave bank details that seem complete and may even exist but the seller then also provided a swift code and IBAN number allowing to wire the money internationaly but these belong to a totally different bank and account . He must know that the bank will only use these data ( swift and IBAN ) when executing the wire electronically ; the initial of the first name and all or a minimum of the 5 first of the family name must coincide with the receiving account .
So if you do not do your homework , you think you send the money to a particular account whereof you think to have all the details but in fact you wire the money to the account linked to the IBAN .
I must admit that it seems unbelievable but I too was digging into the bank details and address for a while only to see much later that the IBAN number had nothing to do with the account number . Then checking the swift code I found out it was HSBC and not Nationwide UK .
There is much more that we found out , but I believe that is better left undisclosed for the moment and MILFAN can take all that to the authorities .
If the seller wants to avoid a sh.. load of hassle he'll have to be very fast to get that watch to MILFAN or his money back in his account .

esm · 6 April 2011, 08:59 AM

That is crap. Shocking!

He had another listing and the boss (lol-x) warned everyone yesterday about it too. (I'm sure there was an investigation going on at the time too)

6 April 2011, 12:21 AM	#1
MILFAN Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Here&EveryWhere Posts: 101	Mike_UK Scam Colchester, essex, UK Hallo Anyone in the colchester , essex area willing to help me check out a forum member, who has scammed me. He says he lives in Colchester, Essex He said his wife is Met Police officer And the reference he gave me was fake, false. I should have checked before . All help would be appreciated. PM me for the address please. He gave a number , then he said, his phone was lost. Cheers M

6 April 2011, 01:28 AM	#2
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Bump this one up there and changed the title, too vague IMO. Perhaps you can give us the gist of the story so far, including which method you used to pay "Mike". __________________ ..33

6 April 2011, 01:40 AM	#3
RJC "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cheshire, UK Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,125	No way. What are the circumstances my friend? __________________ Current - DSJC 136660 - Sea-Dweller 126600

6 April 2011, 01:49 AM	#5
Rolex116520 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: EEC Watch: Daytona & Deepsea Posts: 2,387	Firstly sorry to hear what happened. How did you pay ? You must have an address linked to the bank account or paypal ? I can not imagine you fell for paying via Western Union or something . He says he lives in Colchester , but as he gave you wrong/ fake references that could not be true either . __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

6 April 2011, 02:03 AM	#7
Rolex116520 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: EEC Watch: Daytona & Deepsea Posts: 2,387	Last activity this morning UK time with a last post 2 april . Can the webmaster or the moderators pull up IP with a location for that post or last login ? __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

6 April 2011, 01:48 AM	#4
Jan Davis Fake Identity Cyber-Criminal Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Jan Location: Hong Kong Watch: DateJust Posts: 394	Please be more detailed.

6 April 2011, 01:54 AM	#6
roach7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: henry Location: nyc Watch: 16610lv Posts: 1,829	i think this is in reference to this for sale? http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....70&postcount=1

6 April 2011, 02:24 AM	#8
MILFAN Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Here&EveryWhere Posts: 101	I paid via bank to his partners account , after he confirmed the payment, he promised to send the watch by courier. Then the problems started, it was today, tomorrow. tomorrow tomorrow. Saturday last, he said he was waiting for the UPS to turn up at his door. And then after that no response , until monday morning. He was going to send on Monday and i get on tuesday. On tuesday , i checked for the reference , they never heard of him, (stupid, stupid me) He then sent an email saying he would refund. Now i sent him the email with details. I dont believe him at all anymore. He always blames the courier companies. I bought here from Rjc, and I had a wonderful experience. Couldnt go wrong I thought. Cheers M

6 April 2011, 02:33 AM	#11
Explorer 2011 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Kris Location: ENGLAND Watch: Searching Posts: 1,038	I hate to say it but is there a chance he may not be in the essex area? That could all be a smokescreen? I really hope you get this sorted out Milfan and you get your watch / money back... __________________ __________________ ROLEX Explorer 214270 "Nil Satis Nisi Optimum..."

6 April 2011, 03:28 AM	#12
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	I know there's a little activity going on "behind the scenes" but I do implore you already to have contacted your bank to arrange a reversal. Straight onto the authorities and bang a big drum. You'll be surprised how interconnected the authorities are since 2001. You need to make a politely intense and persistent nuisance of yourself and soon someone will be tracking this "Mike" character down. Lethargy is your enemy. __________________ ..33

6 April 2011, 03:33 AM	#13
Rolex116520 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: EEC Watch: Daytona & Deepsea Posts: 2,387	I understand that this has already been done . Some indications would suggest that members from Oxfordshire could become useful too . __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

6 April 2011, 04:12 AM	#14
spuds "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Essex, UK Watch: West Ham! COYI!! Posts: 7,941	Weren't Mikes first few posts about how HE'D been scammed/mugged or something?? PM replied to Milfan. __________________ Onwards & Upwards Rodders...... Onwards & Upwards. Life is not about how fast you can run or how high you can climb........... It's about how well you can bounce!! TRF HALL OF FAME JANUARY 2010

6 April 2011, 04:23 AM	#16
MILFAN Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Here&EveryWhere Posts: 101	Found this guy. K Fowle Tel: (01844) 345288 - Text Number Woodstock , Whiteleaf, Princes Risborough, HP27 0LY - Map I am going to check this . Cheers

6 April 2011, 04:46 AM	#17
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	If I'm wrong, I apologize to "Mike_UK", but his activity and story was a bit suspect from the start. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

6 April 2011, 05:18 AM	#21
Porsche 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: John Location: ɹǝpun Watch: and learn Posts: 2,986	Even his FS listing is inconsistent. He says must sell watches and under pressure from wife, then at the end offers to swap for a Milgauss? I suppose always easier to dissect these things with hindsight lighting the way... __________________ Obey Gravity, it's the Law! ROLEX --- SEIKO --- HEUER TRF REHAUT T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M

6 April 2011, 05:32 AM	#22
Rolex116520 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: EEC Watch: Daytona & Deepsea Posts: 2,387	I have had several mail exchanges with MILFAN and together we have found some disturbing new elements . Oxfordshire , Colchester and Woodstock could very well be out of the picture altogether . Going through the bank details the seller provided a flagrant inconsistency was not spotted initially . MILFAN is filing complaints everywhere and I will leave it up to him to disclose more details if he wishes to do so . __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

6 April 2011, 05:35 AM	#23
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	That sucks, big time. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

6 April 2011, 06:00 AM	#24
Rolex tom "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Thomas Location: London, England Watch: rolex,seiko,Omega Posts: 192	Damn this guy mike has some long posts

6 April 2011, 06:01 AM	#26
MILFAN Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Here&EveryWhere Posts: 101	OK i think after some searching and trying to figure out the details. He sent an nationwide account no and sort code, but the iban and swift were from HSBC. I have already filed complaints with my bank, actionfraud in the UK with the accounts and the polish names that came up in my search for this person. I will try to update as and when i can find some thing . Atleast its a lesson not buy from some one with a sob story. Thanks to a lot of guys here who are searching and helping. Cheers

6 April 2011, 06:12 AM	#28
spuds "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Essex, UK Watch: West Ham! COYI!! Posts: 7,941	So if his bank account details were wrong how did you pay Milfan? (NOT meant in any way underhandedly... just curious as to why this wasn't picked up by the bank). __________________ Onwards & Upwards Rodders...... Onwards & Upwards. Life is not about how fast you can run or how high you can climb........... It's about how well you can bounce!! TRF HALL OF FAME JANUARY 2010

6 April 2011, 07:02 AM	#29
Rolex116520 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: EEC Watch: Daytona & Deepsea Posts: 2,387	The seller gave bank details that seem complete and may even exist but the seller then also provided a swift code and IBAN number allowing to wire the money internationaly but these belong to a totally different bank and account . He must know that the bank will only use these data ( swift and IBAN ) when executing the wire electronically ; the initial of the first name and all or a minimum of the 5 first of the family name must coincide with the receiving account . So if you do not do your homework , you think you send the money to a particular account whereof you think to have all the details but in fact you wire the money to the account linked to the IBAN . I must admit that it seems unbelievable but I too was digging into the bank details and address for a while only to see much later that the IBAN number had nothing to do with the account number . Then checking the swift code I found out it was HSBC and not Nationwide UK . There is much more that we found out , but I believe that is better left undisclosed for the moment and MILFAN can take all that to the authorities . If the seller wants to avoid a sh.. load of hassle he'll have to be very fast to get that watch to MILFAN or his money back in his account . __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

6 April 2011, 08:59 AM	#30
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	That is crap. Shocking! He had another listing and the boss (lol-x) warned everyone yesterday about it too. (I'm sure there was an investigation going on at the time too)

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