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Old 9 May 2011, 04:13 AM   #1
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Coke vs. Pepsi Resale Data

Not sure if anyone has any data on which GMT has a better (higher) resale value between Coke and Pepsi...........I know,I know get the one you want and all but if it's a toss up why not make a wise financial choice? I doubt many would argue the Exp II white is a better seller and gets a better price than the EXP II black when all things (condition, year, service record etc. etc.) are taken into account.

Just wondering, any input from gray sellers would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 9 May 2011, 04:29 AM   #2
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It's just an insert......... you can put in any color you want..

I doubt that there are any real statistics that would show any difference in value/price..

However, the original GMT II (16760) only came in red/black; so you do need to look at the model to ensure it has the "correct" insert..
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Old 9 May 2011, 04:31 AM   #3
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I thought the 16700 was Pepsi only from Rolex as well....
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Old 9 May 2011, 05:04 AM   #4
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I thought the 16700 was Pepsi only from Rolex as well....
I think that this myth lingers because when the GMT II came out, the only GMT you could get in the blue/red was the 16700, but it also came in black which was introduced in ~1972..
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Old 10 May 2011, 03:02 AM   #5
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I think that this myth lingers because when the GMT II came out, the only GMT you could get in the blue/red was the 16700, but it also came in black which was introduced in ~1972..
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It's just an insert......... you can put in any color you want..

I doubt that there are any real statistics that would show any difference in value/price..

However, the original GMT II (16760) only came in red/black; so you do need to look at the model to ensure it has the "correct" insert..
X2 Larry and today many Rolex watch owners all they can see is £££££$$$$ in my days you bought a Rolex to wear and enjoy perhaps for the rest of your life.
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Old 9 May 2011, 07:50 PM   #7
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Can i bring a original GMT II with Coke insert (16710A)to RSC and tell them to change to a Pepsi insert?
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Old 9 May 2011, 08:51 PM   #8
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Some of these threads lately are SO TEDIOUS
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Old 10 May 2011, 02:37 AM   #9
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Some of these threads lately are SO TEDIOUS
Hey Jason,

What is the average AD discount you get when you sleep with your Rolex.

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Old 9 May 2011, 04:36 AM   #11
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pepsi is more popular
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Old 9 May 2011, 04:52 AM   #12
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I would say from what I have seen in the wild I have seen many more PEPSI's than COKE's... Value being better, I dont think so... Same watch just a different aluminum insert, 6 in one half dozen the other IMHO
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Old 9 May 2011, 04:55 AM   #13
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Funny...I've seen more Cokes in the wild than Pepsis ( only 1 Pepsi), though on TRF Pepsis seem to be more popular as I gather they are the original gmt II?
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Old 9 May 2011, 04:55 AM   #14
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It's just an insert......... you can put in any color you want..
Thanks for that info, I was under the impression you could tell from the serial number which insert it came with from the factory. Looks like I learned my new thing for the day.............and before noon!
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That depends on who you are asking

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I don't think you will find much of a difference IMHO.
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Old 9 May 2011, 04:59 AM   #17
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Pepsi with papers will definitely be more valuable in my opinion.
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Pepsi with papers will definitely be more valuable in my opinion.
Based on what??????
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Old 9 May 2011, 01:28 PM   #19
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So when selling one it doesn't matter if the insert isn't the original colour?
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Old 9 May 2011, 02:12 PM   #20
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So when selling one it doesn't matter if the insert isn't the original colour?
Hopefully someone will chime in and answer that question. Also does the serial number of the watch indicate the original bezel color?
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Old 9 May 2011, 02:18 PM   #21
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Hopefully someone will chime in and answer that question. Also does the serial number of the watch indicate the original bezel color?
Papers in the US for instance, state a code indicating the GMTII was a Black, Red & Blue or Red and Black. My D series GMTII has an "A" on the papers to indicated Black & Red or "Coke." Pepsi is "B" Black is N.
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Hopefully someone will chime in and answer that question. Also does the serial number of the watch indicate the original bezel color?
No, neither the serial number nor any other number on the watch tells you what color the insert is/was..

Original paperwork occasionally (not always, and not in all countries) will tell you what it originally came with: 16710A for Black/red, B for blue/red, and N for black. This also only applies to the 16710 GMT II.

However, this is irrelevant and doesn't change the market value because you can put in any color insert you want.. any time... anywhere...
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So when selling one it doesn't matter if the insert isn't the original colour?
I have sold 2 16710 Coke's to 2 different dealers over the last few months. Both watches had box, but no papers. Neither dealer seemed to care whether the inserts were original. It never came up during the sale of either watch.
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I remember seeing a thread on this. The GMT had a prefix or suffix denoting bezel color on the warranty card starting when they switched over from paper to plastic cards in 2005
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Cheers, but where is the A? I only got the guarantee paper with mine.
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Old 9 May 2011, 07:49 PM   #26
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agree that its just an insert, mine was black originally so i bought the coke and pepsi inserts to change it up...pepsi on now
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to avoid the dilemma, i ended up buying one of each:-)
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Old 10 May 2011, 01:42 AM   #28
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Sorry for the tedious thread but as I get older I try to make more informed decisions. I love and wear my watches getting much enjoyment out of their mechanical wonders and complications but some day I will no longer be around and they will be passed on to my son. If I am going to spend the same amount of money on one versus another I would like to make an informed choice, that's all. I have learned much from the fine folks around here in the short time I've been a member. When I see how much some of these watches have appreciated in value I find it foolish not to take that into account. I live in the U.S. so I guess it will matter which insert originally came with the watch if one bezel color is more desirable than another. That's why I asked the question and am very thankful for all the information I received. This is an incredible forum
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Sorry for the tedious thread but as I get older I try to make more informed decisions. I love and wear my watches getting much enjoyment out of their mechanical wonders and complications but some day I will no longer be around and they will be passed on to my son. If I am going to spend the same amount of money on one versus another I would like to make an informed choice, that's all. I have learned much from the fine folks around here in the short time I've been a member. When I see how much some of these watches have appreciated in value I find it foolish not to take that into account. I live in the U.S. so I guess it will matter which insert originally came with the watch if one bezel color is more desirable than another. That's why I asked the question and am very thankful for all the information I received. This is an incredible forum
You are right...Jason isn't...it is interesting when reviewing a watch that sans the decades...lets see if clever clogs comes up with a less tedious post
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You are right...Jason isn't...it is interesting when reviewing a watch that sans the decades...lets see if clever clogs comes up with a less tedious post
Oh, that's cool. Dig-up a thread from over 2 years ago and then Dog me for my post?? Oh, yea...........

If you think through my post, you would realize that it is just plain silly to post such a thread. An insert can be bought from an AD for less than $100 and then your watch can be either a coke or a pepsi bezel. I guess that there were certain models that came specifically with the pepsi insert (my 16700 is a specific pepsi), but most people want something new or the most recent available.

Solution?? M-serial 16710 with a black, coke, and pepsi insert. No necessity for such threads then.

BTW, I don't visit AD's while I am diving. I am too busy hunting lionfish and watching-out for sharks.
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