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Onikage · 9 July 2011, 11:44 AM

I'm just wondering what people's thoughts are on this? With the early Rolexes being expressly designed as functional tools and not fashion items, it seems the iconic status and the aesthetic we all love was unintentional. The soul intention of the new ceramic types seems to be; a functional watch that will stay blingy forever. Will we ever see; "Vintage Red Sub-c, Lugs in good condition, ceramic still as black and shiny as ever, bracelet still doesn't rattle. Lume is still blue---- £80,000"?

Sorry.

Dr. Robert · 9 July 2011, 11:51 AM

if you keep it long enough it'll be vintage.......I bought a 1655 new back in 1973.....it's now vintage, like me.

BarkMaster · 9 July 2011, 12:00 PM

I'll be vintage before they are.

landroverking · 9 July 2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by barkmaster

i'll be vintage before they are.

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Onikage · 9 July 2011, 12:04 PM

I'll rephrase the OP; In 40 years will the demand for a ceramic Submariner be anywhere near the demand for a 40 year old Submariner currently? If say, they come up with a one-off ceramic Milsub would the price be anywhere near what a Milsub fetches right now?

East Bay Rider · 9 July 2011, 12:25 PM

As everything new becomes ceramic, the older style, aluminum bezel inserts are becoming 'classic'.
It's happening right before our eyes.

mastermixer · 9 July 2011, 12:26 PM

IMO people like to collect. People usually want what they think was cool when they were younger but couldn't afford it. Rolex makes many more watches per year now than they did back then, but people will still find a way get something from their past that they can't get currently.

Do you want a '72 Corvette or a 1920 Ford Model T? I'm sure there are far fewer Model Ts out there, but a '72 is probably more desirable to you.

there is a difference between vintage and collectible.

HL65 · 9 July 2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mastermixer

IMO people like to collect. People usually want what they think was cool when they were younger but couldn't afford it. Rolex makes many more watches per year now than they did back then, but people will still find a way get something from their past that they can't get currently.

Do you want a '72 Corvette or a 1920 Ford Model T? I'm sure there are far fewer Model Ts out there, but a '72 is probably more desirable to you.

there is a difference between vintage and collectible.

Exactly--well said!

Onikage · 9 July 2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mastermixer

IMO people like to collect. People usually want what they think was cool when they were younger but couldn't afford it. Rolex makes many more watches per year now than they did back then, but people will still find a way get something from their past that they can't get currently.

Do you want a '72 Corvette or a 1920 Ford Model T? I'm sure there are far fewer Model Ts out there, but a '72 is probably more desirable to you.

there is a difference between vintage and collectible.

Thanks for ptting things into perspective. That's a sound take on it.

dddrees · 9 July 2011, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastermixer

IMO people like to collect. People usually want what they think was cool when they were younger but couldn't afford it. Rolex makes many more watches per year now than they did back then, but people will still find a way get something from their past that they can't get currently.

Do you want a '72 Corvette or a 1920 Ford Model T? I'm sure there are far fewer Model Ts out there, but a '72 is probably more desirable to you.

there is a difference between vintage and collectible.

Well said.

HL65 · 9 July 2011, 12:27 PM

I'll keep this and you can have the ceramic one!!

Onikage · 9 July 2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

I'll keep this and you can have the ceramic one!!

Yazo · 9 July 2011, 01:21 PM

Short answer.... no!

Kanger · 9 July 2011, 01:54 PM

Honestly, the LV classic has a shot. The SD has a shot.

9 July 2011, 11:44 AM	#1
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	Will "modern" Rolexes Ever be Vintage? I'm just wondering what people's thoughts are on this? With the early Rolexes being expressly designed as functional tools and not fashion items, it seems the iconic status and the aesthetic we all love was unintentional. The soul intention of the new ceramic types seems to be; a functional watch that will stay blingy forever. Will we ever see; "Vintage Red Sub-c, Lugs in good condition, ceramic still as black and shiny as ever, bracelet still doesn't rattle. Lume is still blue---- £80,000"? Sorry. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

9 July 2011, 11:51 AM	#2
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,248	if you keep it long enough it'll be vintage.......I bought a 1655 new back in 1973.....it's now vintage, like me. __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

9 July 2011, 12:00 PM	#3
BarkMaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Watch: 18078 YG DD Posts: 7,962	I'll be vintage before they are. __________________ BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK

9 July 2011, 12:04 PM	#5
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	I'll rephrase the OP; In 40 years will the demand for a ceramic Submariner be anywhere near the demand for a 40 year old Submariner currently? If say, they come up with a one-off ceramic Milsub would the price be anywhere near what a Milsub fetches right now? __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

9 July 2011, 12:25 PM	#6
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,073	As everything new becomes ceramic, the older style, aluminum bezel inserts are becoming 'classic'. It's happening right before our eyes. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

9 July 2011, 12:26 PM	#7
mastermixer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Michael Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,474	IMO people like to collect. People usually want what they think was cool when they were younger but couldn't afford it. Rolex makes many more watches per year now than they did back then, but people will still find a way get something from their past that they can't get currently. Do you want a '72 Corvette or a 1920 Ford Model T? I'm sure there are far fewer Model Ts out there, but a '72 is probably more desirable to you. there is a difference between vintage and collectible.

9 July 2011, 12:27 PM	#11
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	I'll keep this and you can have the ceramic one!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

9 July 2011, 01:21 PM	#13
Yazo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,812	Short answer.... no!

9 July 2011, 01:54 PM	#14
Kanger Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: North Carolina Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 5,524	Honestly, the LV classic has a shot. The SD has a shot.

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