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rolexsweep · 13 July 2011, 09:51 PM

Just popped into Sydney hour glass and spoke with a salesman. He just said to me, they received word from rolex? that there will be no more discounts on ss models in all rolex models???? I was shocked... He said I was lucky to pick my gmt up for a good price. Anyone else here about this

Passionata · 13 July 2011, 10:04 PM

salesman talk=BS

Hooper · 13 July 2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Passionata

salesman talk=BS

I tend to agree ! they maybe selling Rolex, but sales people are all the same ! May as well sell vacuums.

Mr. K · 14 July 2011, 01:27 AM

ADs are like lawyers, there are good ones and bad ones. Just consider the source when taking info. How much do you trust YOURAD?

Dr. Robert · 14 July 2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Passionata

salesman talk=BS

as a professional salesman, I represent, er...I mean resent that statement

johnbeth · 13 July 2011, 10:09 PM

Why bother with ADs in Australia, they are just hopeless in customer service. TRF sellers are the best!

Grumpy Badger · 13 July 2011, 10:10 PM

It was my understanding that Rolex has always disapproved of any discount on their products and that they don't officially approve of AD's giving discount.

I think it's always been the case that if an AD does give discount that's between them and you but that Rolex doesn't and never has sanctioned it...

Engi · 13 July 2011, 10:38 PM

It is a life that I hear this story ...

Ciao

Engi

Garry357 · 13 July 2011, 10:39 PM

With the Australian Dollar so strong, it is worth looking at the UK for a new Rolex.

Good savings to be had,

johnbeth · 13 July 2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Garry357

With the Australian Dollar so strong, it is worth looking at the UK for a new Rolex.

Good savings to be had,

The USA has better prices!

Garry357 · 13 July 2011, 11:02 PM

do you live in Perth or Sydney, I am in Perth been here 7 years from the UK.
Only just bought my first and probably only Rolex, Sub C LN love it.....

johnbeth · 13 July 2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Garry357

do you live in Perth or Sydney, I am in Perth been here 7 years from the UK.
Only just bought my first and probably only Rolex, Sub C LN love it.....

Work in Perth, family and always travel back to Sydney.

You should come to the next Perth GTG when we have one when Dalip comes back in a few weeks!

gwozhog · 14 July 2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by johnbeth

The USA has better prices!

Everything is better in the USA

Chris B · 14 July 2011, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

It was my understanding that Rolex has always disapproved of any discount on their products and that they don't officially approve of AD's giving discount.

I think it's always been the case that if an AD does give discount that's between them and you but that Rolex doesn't and never has sanctioned it...

ManUtd · 14 July 2011, 01:58 AM

In that situation my typical response would be "that's okay I know other AD's who will."

Mr. K · 14 July 2011, 02:49 AM

But if it is a salesperson, they are just messengers of the management. If the boss says no discount, that is what they will tell you. They may not have a lot of control.

JACBMW · 15 July 2011, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

It was my understanding that Rolex has always disapproved of any discount on their products and that they don't officially approve of AD's giving discount.

I think it's always been the case that if an AD does give discount that's between them and you but that Rolex doesn't and never has sanctioned it...

You are correct...same here in the states.

Decks · 13 July 2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rolexsweep

Just popped into Sydney hour glass and spoke with a salesman. He just said to me, they received word from rolex? that there will be no more discounts on ss models in all rolex models???? I was shocked... He said I was lucky to pick my gmt up for a good price. Anyone else here about this

Yes, that sounds like Hour Glass

... Rock down to Swiss Concept and ask for Sam ....

93 Turbo · 13 July 2011, 11:15 PM

Now I think of it, I have never been in a AD in Australia. Every where else in the world, but I have never had the desire to in my home town.

The Rolex watches I have purchased have all been bought outside Australia, for one reason only. I have saved big $.

I'd take that comment with a very big grain of salt...

Speed · 13 July 2011, 11:27 PM

As Padi says, "Ads talk out of where the sun don't shine"

2th Dr · 15 July 2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Speed

As Padi says, "Ads talk out of where the sun don't shine"

Exactly!

Mr. K · 15 July 2011, 02:46 AM

We all want discounts and by being here we are somewhat educated.

I'm sure the masses just pay full retail. But better for us and resale.

watchf · 13 July 2011, 11:36 PM

Just take whatever the Aus AD salesperson said as a joke. I doubt few from Australia who are on TRF would buy from an Australia AD knowingly getting ripped a new one.

mjm800 · 14 July 2011, 01:50 AM

Every time I walk into an AD I hear two things guaranteed.

1. Prices are going up [insert month here]

2. No matter which watch I am looking at a female salesperson will say, "my boyfriend has the exact same watch I love it, it's my favorite watch."

Sherwooddavid · 14 July 2011, 02:53 AM

If Rolex were serious about not giving discounts they should get their AD's to sign a contract and if they are caught selling for less than MSRP they loose the Rolex line.
I recently asked for a discount on some Pandora jewelry for my wife and the AD told me they weren't allowed to discount and had to sign a contract agreeing not to do it.
I thought.... that's fair....same price everywhere.

rms · 14 July 2011, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexsweep

Just popped into Sydney hour glass and spoke with a salesman. He just said to me, they received word from rolex? that there will be no more discounts on ss models in all rolex models???? I was shocked... He said I was lucky to pick my gmt up for a good price. Anyone else here about this

I don't know about the laws in Australia, but in the U.S. price fixing by a manufacturer is illegal. My guess is Australia has similar laws. Disallowing discounts is akin to fixing price.

Tsnail · 14 July 2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rms

I don't know about the laws in Australia, but in the U.S. price fixing by a manufacturer is illegal. My guess is Australia has similar laws. Disallowing discounts is akin to fixing price.

In the U.S. "Minimum Retail Pricing" has been legal since June 2007.
If Rolex requires it's authorized retailers to follow a minimum retail pricing schedule then it is at the retailer's peril to ignore that condition.

Century-Old Ban Lifted on Minimum Retail Pricing

Tools · 14 July 2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rms

I don't know about the laws in Australia, but in the U.S. price fixing by a manufacturer is illegal. My guess is Australia has similar laws. Disallowing discounts is akin to fixing price.

Setting a price by a manufacturer is not illegal "price fixing", nor is contracting with your vendors that they sell for a certain price.. ..

Price fixing, which is illegal, is when a group of manufacturers, who are supposed to be in competition with one another, join together to set a price and stifle competition..

Anybody is free to purchase a cheaper watch from any number of manufacturers....... As long as Rolex continues with the idea that their luxury product should/must command a luxury price; all of our interests and the value of all our watches will benefit.....

rms · 17 July 2011, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Setting a price by a manufacturer is not illegal "price fixing", nor is contracting with your vendors that they sell for a certain price.. ..

Price fixing, which is illegal, is when a group of manufacturers, who are supposed to be in competition with one another, join together to set a price and stifle competition..

Anybody is free to purchase a cheaper watch from any number of manufacturers....... As long as Rolex continues with the idea that their luxury product should/must command a luxury price; all of our interests and the value of all our watches will benefit.....

I respectfully don't think you are correct. I had over 20 years experience in high-tech retail and it was not legal for a manufacturer to set price. I'm currently on vacation, but I will research this when I get back. Not to prove my point, but because I am interested.

delldeaton · 17 July 2011, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tools

setting a price by a manufacturer is not illegal "price fixing", nor is contracting with your vendors that they sell for a certain price.. ..

Price fixing, which is illegal, is when a group of manufacturers, who are supposed to be in competition with one another, join together to set a price and stifle competition..

Anybody is free to purchase a cheaper watch from any number of manufacturers....... As long as rolex continues with the idea that their luxury product should/must command a luxury price; all of our interests and the value of all our watches will benefit.....

+1

13 July 2011, 09:51 PM	#1
rolexsweep "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Australia Watch: RG DD40 Posts: 1,149	No more discounts????? Just popped into Sydney hour glass and spoke with a salesman. He just said to me, they received word from rolex? that there will be no more discounts on ss models in all rolex models???? I was shocked... He said I was lucky to pick my gmt up for a good price. Anyone else here about this __________________ "Did you get that at retail?"

13 July 2011, 10:04 PM	#2
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	salesman talk=BS __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

13 July 2011, 10:10 PM	#7
Grumpy Badger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Bonny Scotland Watch: 14060M Sub (cosc) Posts: 5,280	It was my understanding that Rolex has always disapproved of any discount on their products and that they don't officially approve of AD's giving discount. I think it's always been the case that if an AD does give discount that's between them and you but that Rolex doesn't and never has sanctioned it... __________________ Don't mind me. I'm full of scotch, bitterness and impure thoughts! "You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS.

14 July 2011, 01:50 AM	#24
mjm800 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,950	Every time I walk into an AD I hear two things guaranteed. 1. Prices are going up [insert month here] 2. No matter which watch I am looking at a female salesperson will say, "my boyfriend has the exact same watch I love it, it's my favorite watch." __________________

14 July 2011, 01:27 AM	#4
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,078	ADs are like lawyers, there are good ones and bad ones. Just consider the source when taking info. How much do you trust YOURAD?

13 July 2011, 10:09 PM	#6
johnbeth "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Depends on mood. Posts: 9,536	Why bother with ADs in Australia, they are just hopeless in customer service. TRF sellers are the best!

13 July 2011, 10:38 PM	#8
Engi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,434	It is a life that I hear this story ... Ciao Engi

13 July 2011, 10:39 PM	#9
Garry357 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Perth Australia Watch: SUB C LN Posts: 32	With the Australian Dollar so strong, it is worth looking at the UK for a new Rolex. Good savings to be had,

13 July 2011, 11:02 PM	#11
Garry357 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Perth Australia Watch: SUB C LN Posts: 32	do you live in Perth or Sydney, I am in Perth been here 7 years from the UK. Only just bought my first and probably only Rolex, Sub C LN love it.....

14 July 2011, 01:58 AM	#15
ManUtd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Eric Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,613	In that situation my typical response would be "that's okay I know other AD's who will."

14 July 2011, 02:49 AM	#16
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,078	But if it is a salesperson, they are just messengers of the management. If the boss says no discount, that is what they will tell you. They may not have a lot of control.

13 July 2011, 11:15 PM	#19
93 Turbo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Watch: Rolex.Tudor.PAM Posts: 1,554	Now I think of it, I have never been in a AD in Australia. Every where else in the world, but I have never had the desire to in my home town. The Rolex watches I have purchased have all been bought outside Australia, for one reason only. I have saved big $. I'd take that comment with a very big grain of salt...

13 July 2011, 11:27 PM	#20
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	As Padi says, "Ads talk out of where the sun don't shine"

15 July 2011, 02:46 AM	#22
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,078	We all want discounts and by being here we are somewhat educated. I'm sure the masses just pay full retail. But better for us and resale.

13 July 2011, 11:36 PM	#23
watchf "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 2,458	Just take whatever the Aus AD salesperson said as a joke. I doubt few from Australia who are on TRF would buy from an Australia AD knowingly getting ripped a new one.

14 July 2011, 02:53 AM	#25
Sherwooddavid "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Dave Location: Canada Watch: Submariner Posts: 2,080	If Rolex were serious about not giving discounts they should get their AD's to sign a contract and if they are caught selling for less than MSRP they loose the Rolex line. I recently asked for a discount on some Pandora jewelry for my wife and the AD told me they weren't allowed to discount and had to sign a contract agreeing not to do it. I thought.... that's fair....same price everywhere.

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