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jrs146 · 11 August 2011, 12:11 AM

Hi All,

I'm brand new to this Forum and I look forward to having some great discussions!

I'm the proud owner of a Rolex Air King which I have had for about 5 years now. I'm thinking about buying my second rolex and I wanted some help from the group. I am thinking of buying a Submariner from a random person who has an ad for sale. I am not good enough to be able to spot a fake without a little help so I thought I'd see if anyone could help me by looking at the pictures.

Please let me know if you see any issues with this watch.

Thansk!

Kringkily · 11 August 2011, 12:30 AM

can't see much from the picture but is the "b" missing from submariner wording in the dial shot. Pictures are a bit grainy for me to tell...

The Archer · 11 August 2011, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kringkily

can't see much from the picture but is the "b" missing from submariner wording in the dial shot. Pictures are a bit grainy for me to tell...

I believe it is covered by the end of the seconds hand if you look closely....

Michael M. · 11 August 2011, 01:11 AM

We need clearer pictures to be positive.

Payesrob · 11 August 2011, 06:03 AM

The crown guards overlaps the bottom of the crown

jrs146 · 11 August 2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Payesrob

The crown guards overlaps the bottom of the crown

What does this mean?

mrbill2mrbill2 · 11 August 2011, 06:52 AM

Hard to tell from those photos. But, I say fake.

mjm800 · 11 August 2011, 06:55 AM

Need better photos but the box looks fake.

mjm800 · 11 August 2011, 07:15 AM

First there is no straight shot of the dial...this is always bad scammers try to take photos from angles were you cannot get a good look in order to try to hide imperfections.

Ask the seller for a good straight on shot of the dial, a shot between the lugs, and the bracelet.

jrs146 · 11 August 2011, 07:24 AM

Thanks for the info. I will post more pics tonight. The seller agreed to meet me at an AD to authenticate. I'm assuming that the AD would be able to take out much of the doubt. They are charging me $125. That seems reasonable o know I'm getting the real deal.

MB7000 · 11 August 2011, 07:28 AM

That watch looks Gen to me... I would be willing to bet my Life on it!

drockadam · 11 August 2011, 07:46 AM

More pictures mate! Looks alright to me, from these though.

jrs146 · 11 August 2011, 07:53 AM

More pics coming. Please check back soon!

jrs146 · 11 August 2011, 10:34 AM

Here are some better Pics. Please reply with your expert opinion. Thank you!

mjm800 · 11 August 2011, 10:50 AM

Seems like most agree the watch is real. So I retract my concerns.

mcjp6 · 11 August 2011, 11:02 AM

IMO the watch is good....

usbzoso · 11 August 2011, 11:00 AM

looks pretty good to me

mrbill2mrbill2 · 11 August 2011, 11:32 AM

Better pics. I also retract "I say fake".

mjm800 · 11 August 2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

Better pics. I also retract "I say fake".

I wish I just knew more or could spot a fake better I sometimes feel like it's 50/50 unless it's one of those blatant fakes.

jrs146 · 11 August 2011, 11:47 AM

Thanks guys. I'll be taking it to an AD for an authentication just to be sure. How accurate are they? I would assume they have to get pretty deep into the watch...atleast to charge $125!

mjm800 · 11 August 2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jrs146

Thanks guys. I'll be taking it to an AD for an authentication just to be sure. How accurate are they? I would assume they have to get pretty deep into the watch...atleast to charge $125!

If they are going to charge you 125 then a watchmaker better open it up verify and then pressure test it.

If it's just going to be a sales person giving it the once over save your money.

crowncollection · 11 August 2011, 11:48 AM

all good mate

usbzoso · 11 August 2011, 11:55 AM

Take it to a Rolex Service Center for about the same price (a little more actually liek $150) they appraise it for you. During appraisal they have to make sure everything about the Rolex is genuine this includes opening it up and inspecting the movement. You can use the appraisal letter for insurance as well later if you decide to insure it.

drockadam · 11 August 2011, 11:57 AM

100% authentic. Beautiful 16610!

onkyo · 11 August 2011, 02:00 PM

All good.

Kringkily · 11 August 2011, 02:26 PM

id get it appraised by the rolex center for 150 and then you get paper work which will help increase resale value down the road. doooo it

bayerische · 11 August 2011, 08:10 PM

Is it the same watch in both sets of pics?

For instance the Crown with "rolex crown logo" is in different positions in the first set of pics and the second set of pics.

Crown guards looks very suspicious on the first set of pics too.

I would only do this deal face to face, and with an appraiser .

dysondiver · 11 August 2011, 08:14 PM

after the initial reactions , and the current reaction , it would have to be certified properly before id be happy , face to face transaction and the 150 would be an investment , maybe even spilit the cost with the seller.

bayerische · 11 August 2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kanger

qft

How about you giving the real "kanger" his account back?

bayerische · 11 August 2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kanger

VERY rude comment.

Yeah right.

11 August 2011, 12:11 AM	#1
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	Authentic Rolex Submariner?? Hi All, I'm brand new to this Forum and I look forward to having some great discussions! I'm the proud owner of a Rolex Air King which I have had for about 5 years now. I'm thinking about buying my second rolex and I wanted some help from the group. I am thinking of buying a Submariner from a random person who has an ad for sale. I am not good enough to be able to spot a fake without a little help so I thought I'd see if anyone could help me by looking at the pictures. Please let me know if you see any issues with this watch. Thansk! Attached Images

11 August 2011, 06:52 AM	#7
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Hard to tell from those photos. But, I say fake. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

11 August 2011, 06:55 AM	#8
mjm800 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,950	Need better photos but the box looks fake. __________________

11 August 2011, 07:15 AM	#9
mjm800 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,950	First there is no straight shot of the dial...this is always bad scammers try to take photos from angles were you cannot get a good look in order to try to hide imperfections. Ask the seller for a good straight on shot of the dial, a shot between the lugs, and the bracelet. __________________

11 August 2011, 10:34 AM	#14
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	Here are some better Pics. Please reply with your expert opinion. Thank you! Attached Images

11 August 2011, 12:30 AM	#2
Kringkily "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: George Location: New York Watch: Speedmaster, Rolex Posts: 3,082	can't see much from the picture but is the "b" missing from submariner wording in the dial shot. Pictures are a bit grainy for me to tell...

11 August 2011, 01:11 AM	#4
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	We need clearer pictures to be positive.

11 August 2011, 06:03 AM	#5
Payesrob Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California Watch: Submariner 116610 Posts: 64	The crown guards overlaps the bottom of the crown

11 August 2011, 07:24 AM	#10
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	Thanks for the info. I will post more pics tonight. The seller agreed to meet me at an AD to authenticate. I'm assuming that the AD would be able to take out much of the doubt. They are charging me $125. That seems reasonable o know I'm getting the real deal.

11 August 2011, 07:28 AM	#11
MB7000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Marcus Location: Chicago Watch: Day-Date,Deepsea Posts: 266	That watch looks Gen to me... I would be willing to bet my Life on it!

11 August 2011, 07:46 AM	#12
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	More pictures mate! Looks alright to me, from these though.

11 August 2011, 07:53 AM	#13
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	More pics coming. Please check back soon!

11 August 2011, 10:50 AM	#15
mjm800 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,950	Seems like most agree the watch is real. So I retract my concerns. __________________

11 August 2011, 11:02 AM	#16
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	IMO the watch is good....

11 August 2011, 11:00 AM	#17
usbzoso Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Stan Location: Dallas Watch: 16610/16600/16800 Posts: 1,231	looks pretty good to me

11 August 2011, 11:32 AM	#18
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Better pics. I also retract "I say fake". __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

11 August 2011, 11:47 AM	#20
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	Thanks guys. I'll be taking it to an AD for an authentication just to be sure. How accurate are they? I would assume they have to get pretty deep into the watch...atleast to charge $125!

11 August 2011, 11:48 AM	#22
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	all good mate __________________ watches many

11 August 2011, 11:55 AM	#23
usbzoso Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Stan Location: Dallas Watch: 16610/16600/16800 Posts: 1,231	Take it to a Rolex Service Center for about the same price (a little more actually liek $150) they appraise it for you. During appraisal they have to make sure everything about the Rolex is genuine this includes opening it up and inspecting the movement. You can use the appraisal letter for insurance as well later if you decide to insure it.

11 August 2011, 11:57 AM	#24
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	100% authentic. Beautiful 16610! __________________ - Adam Instagram: @GMTSUBTIME

11 August 2011, 02:00 PM	#25
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	All good.

11 August 2011, 02:26 PM	#26
Kringkily "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: George Location: New York Watch: Speedmaster, Rolex Posts: 3,082	id get it appraised by the rolex center for 150 and then you get paper work which will help increase resale value down the road. doooo it

11 August 2011, 08:10 PM	#27
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Is it the same watch in both sets of pics? For instance the Crown with "rolex crown logo" is in different positions in the first set of pics and the second set of pics. Crown guards looks very suspicious on the first set of pics too. I would only do this deal face to face, and with an appraiser . __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

11 August 2011, 08:14 PM	#28
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	after the initial reactions , and the current reaction , it would have to be certified properly before id be happy , face to face transaction and the 150 would be an investment , maybe even spilit the cost with the seller.

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