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Old 23 August 2011, 08:02 PM   #1
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New Submariner with questions pertaining to functionality and security. Please help!!

Hello everyone.

I recently bought a Rolex Submariner and decided to join this superb forum for some updates and questions.

Bezel----
1.) The bezel seems fine, however I read somewhere that a real Rolex Submariner will turn 120 clicks per cycle or about 30 per quarter. I got 18-19?

2.) Additionally, when I gently press the bezel in the 12 and 6'o-clock position the bezel moves slightly. Is this normal?

Winding----
3.) Can you overwind your Submariner?

4.) How do you know if you've winding enough?

5.) How long should it function on a full wind until it goes to "sleep" mode?

6.) What's the best way for me to wake up from "sleep" mode, just wear it or manually update the time and date?

Authenticity----
7.) Since this watch is so popular it seems to attract a lot of unwanted copycats and fake imitations. How can one be certain he/she is getting the real deal?

-Crown lasered in on glass above the six'o-clock (hard to see)
-"rolex" is engraved on the inside ring along with code and crown on the 12'o-clock position

What other features can I look into without opening the actual watch to check authenticity?

I know that's a lot but if you can just answer one you're truly helping me out here. If you can answer a few please just quote me or use the numbers to help me out. Cheers and thanks in advance. I look forward to acquiring knowledge from all you Rolex Owners!
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Old 23 August 2011, 08:08 PM   #2
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Rolex Submariner evolved from the Sub classic to the Sub Ceramic with wider lugs. Which want you got?
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Old 23 August 2011, 08:18 PM   #3
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Post some pics and we can take a look.

Did you buy that from an AD? If not, was the price you paid within a reasonable range? If you paid only a fraction of the market price, it could be a copycat and you'd better let a Rolex Service Center in LA check it.

To answer a few of your questions:

=> 1): if it is a ceramic Sub, then it should be 120 clicks. Otherwise maybe not.

=> 2): bezel movement is normal.

=> 3), 4), 5): I seldom wind my sub. Just wear it every day.

=> 6): best way to wake it: wear it!

=> 7): again pictures are needed!!
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Old 24 August 2011, 05:04 AM   #4
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Rolex Submariner evolved from the Sub classic to the Sub Ceramic with wider lugs. Which want you got?
----I have the Ceramic Bezel. still 120 clicks?

[QUOTE=mapula;2690920]Post some pics and we can take a look.

Did you buy that from an AD? If not, was the price you paid within a reasonable range? If you paid only a fraction of the market price, it could be a copycat and you'd better let a Rolex Service Center in LA check it.

----I believe it was an AD, but the warranty card is in FRENCH! Also the price range is correct, 4.5K-5.5K????

To answer a few of your questions:

=> 1): if it is a ceramic Sub, then it should be 120 clicks. Otherwise maybe not.

----120 exactly??

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Sorry, but I thought all Submariners have had a 120 click bezel. This is kind of a red flag to me here...
----Exactly 120?

[QUOTE=RolexWatcher;2690987]Just post a pic and our resident experts will know straight away....!

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Old 23 August 2011, 08:31 PM   #5
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Welcome to TRF.
I recently bought a Rolex Submariner and decided to join this superb forum for some updates and questions.
Post some PICs here when you get a chance
Bezel----
1.) The bezel seems fine, however I read somewhere that a real Rolex Submariner will turn 120 clicks per cycle or about 30 per quarter. I got 18-19?

2.) Additionally, when I gently press the bezel in the 12 and 6'o-clock position the bezel moves slightly. Is this normal?

Winding----
3.) Can you overwind your Submariner?
No, you can not over wind a rolex.
4.) How do you know if you've winding enough?
There will be some resistance when get there, but 40 turns is sufficient.
5.) How long should it function on a full wind until it goes to "sleep" mode?
48 hours power reserve without any further activity.
6.) What's the best way for me to wake up from "sleep" mode, just wear it or manually update the time and date?
Give it 40 turns or winds.Authenticity----
7.) Since this watch is so popular it seems to attract a lot of unwanted copycats and fake imitations. How can one be certain he/she is getting the real deal?
Buy the seller, buy from someone you can trust. I chose to buy from an AD personally.-Crown lasered in on glass above the six'o-clock (hard to see)
-"rolex" is engraved on the inside ring along with code and crown on the 12'o-clock position

What other features can I look into without opening the actual watch to check authenticity?

Small Laser Etched Crown at 6 O'Clock on the crystall for most

Most other items require a bit of knowledge and might require some research, however if buying from someone you can trust you don't need to worry about this.
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Old 24 August 2011, 10:58 AM   #6
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Welcome to TRF.
I recently bought a Rolex Submariner and decided to join this superb forum for some updates and questions.
Post some PICs here when you get a chance
Bezel----
1.) The bezel seems fine, however I read somewhere that a real Rolex Submariner will turn 120 clicks per cycle or about 30 per quarter. I got 18-19?

2.) Additionally, when I gently press the bezel in the 12 and 6'o-clock position the bezel moves slightly. Is this normal?

Winding----
3.) Can you overwind your Submariner?
No, you can not over wind a rolex.
4.) How do you know if you've winding enough?
There will be some resistance when get there, but 40 turns is sufficient.
5.) How long should it function on a full wind until it goes to "sleep" mode?
48 hours power reserve without any further activity.
6.) What's the best way for me to wake up from "sleep" mode, just wear it or manually update the time and date?
Give it 40 turns or winds.Authenticity----
7.) Since this watch is so popular it seems to attract a lot of unwanted copycats and fake imitations. How can one be certain he/she is getting the real deal?
Buy the seller, buy from someone you can trust. I chose to buy from an AD personally.-Crown lasered in on glass above the six'o-clock (hard to see)
-"rolex" is engraved on the inside ring along with code and crown on the 12'o-clock position

What other features can I look into without opening the actual watch to check authenticity?

Small Laser Etched Crown at 6 O'Clock on the crystall for most

Most other items require a bit of knowledge and might require some research, however if buying from someone you can trust you don't need to worry about this.
If the watch is not use for a day, after wearing it the next day, will the reserve power build back up to 48 hours without any winding or do I need to wind it up
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Old 24 August 2011, 11:05 AM   #7
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If the watch is not use for a day, after wearing it the next day, will the reserve power build back up to 48 hours without any winding or do I need to wind it up
If you are active enough it could.
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Old 23 August 2011, 08:55 PM   #8
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Hello everyone.

I recently bought a Rolex Submariner and decided to join this superb forum for some updates and questions.

Bezel----
1.) The bezel seems fine, however I read somewhere that a real Rolex Submariner will turn 120 clicks per cycle or about 30 per quarter. I got 18-19?

The bezel on my "old" 16610 and the "new" 116610 Sub C have precisely 30 clicks per quarter. If yours is different --> very likely fake!

2.) Additionally, when I gently press the bezel in the 12 and 6'o-clock position the bezel moves slightly. Is this normal?

The bezel on both of my watches does NOT move



Authenticity----
7.) Since this watch is so popular it seems to attract a lot of unwanted copycats and fake imitations. How can one be certain he/she is getting the real deal?

-Crown lasered in on glass above the six'o-clock (hard to see)
-"rolex" is engraved on the inside ring along with code and crown on the 12'o-clock position

What other features can I look into without opening the actual watch to check authenticity?

I know that's a lot but if you can just answer one you're truly helping me out here. If you can answer a few please just quote me or use the numbers to help me out. Cheers and thanks in advance. I look forward to acquiring knowledge from all you Rolex Owners!
Regarding authenticity, post some good pics here or get it checked at an AD.

Usually that should be done PRIOR to the payment not afterwards!
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Old 23 August 2011, 09:14 PM   #9
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Sorry, but I thought all Submariners have had a 120 click bezel. This is kind of a red flag to me here...
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Just post a pic and our resident experts will know straight away....!

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Hello everyone.

I recently bought a Rolex Submariner and decided to join this superb forum for some updates and questions.

Bezel----
1.) The bezel seems fine, however I read somewhere that a real Rolex Submariner will turn 120 clicks per cycle or about 30 per quarter. I got 18-19?

2.) Additionally, when I gently press the bezel in the 12 and 6'o-clock position the bezel moves slightly. Is this normal?

Winding----
3.) Can you overwind your Submariner?

4.) How do you know if you've winding enough?

5.) How long should it function on a full wind until it goes to "sleep" mode?

6.) What's the best way for me to wake up from "sleep" mode, just wear it or manually update the time and date?

Authenticity----
7.) Since this watch is so popular it seems to attract a lot of unwanted copycats and fake imitations. How can one be certain he/she is getting the real deal?

-Crown lasered in on glass above the six'o-clock (hard to see)
-"rolex" is engraved on the inside ring along with code and crown on the 12'o-clock position

What other features can I look into without opening the actual watch to check authenticity?

I know that's a lot but if you can just answer one you're truly helping me out here. If you can answer a few please just quote me or use the numbers to help me out. Cheers and thanks in advance. I look forward to acquiring knowledge from all you Rolex Owners!
A picture paints a thousand words what model sub is it without this information the forum cannot help you.
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Old 24 August 2011, 05:28 AM   #14
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that's not a ceramic bezel on your pic!
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Old 24 August 2011, 05:32 AM   #15
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that's not a ceramic bezel on your pic!
It isn't????

Please, when you have time post a pic of a ceramic bezel please.
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What was the name of the place you got this from in Hong Kong?

Usually, you don't need to make all those threads on the same topic.
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Old 24 August 2011, 05:35 AM   #18
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Mine looks quite similar.

What is the difference between ceramic bezel and not?
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Looks like a real 16610
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Nope, doesn't appear to be a ceramic bezel or have a supercase. What is the model number listed on your warranty card? This appears to be a classic 16610...
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Old 24 August 2011, 05:41 AM   #21
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Nope, doesn't appear to be a ceramic bezel or have a supercase. What is the model number listed on your warranty card? This appears to be a classic 16610...
Correct Sir!
It is a 16610 but I'm curious how can everyone spot the difference so quickly between the two bezels? Can you help post a good ceramic pic?

Also, what is a "supercase?"

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Correct Sir!
It is a 16610 but I'm curious how can everyone spot the difference so quickly between the two bezels?
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Correct Sir!
It is a 16610 but I'm curious how can everyone spot the difference so quickly between the two bezels?
It's pretty obvious..case shape, bezel shine, bezel font embedded in the ceramic also..dial marker size 'maxi dial' etc.

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Correct Sir!
It is a 16610 but I'm curious how can everyone spot the difference so quickly between the two bezels? Can you help post a good ceramic pic?

Also, what is a "supercase?"

Thanks!
The supercase was released with the new Sub, including fatter lugs, a larger case, larger plots at the hour markers, thicker hand (minute and hour) along with some other changes (glidelock clasp, different bracelet design, blue parachrom spring).

The news sub when placed next to an old Sub are completely different; the bezel and the size of the case/plots are the easiest changed to notice at first glance.

Here is a pic of the Supercase model with ceramic bezel

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The supercase was released with the new Sub, including fatter lugs, a larger case, larger plots at the hour markers, thicker hand (minute and hour) along with some other changes (glidelock clasp, different bracelet design, blue parachrom spring).

The news sub when placed next to an old Sub are completely different; the bezel and the size of the case/plots are the easiest changed to notice at first glance.

Here is a pic of the Supercase model with ceramic bezel

Also not the fat crown guards.

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The non maxi dial is an easy tell.
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The non maxi dial is an easy tell.
Can someone please post two good pics comparing the two?
I've looked online on various forums but the difference for this noob is hard to spot.

I feel like I'm the new kid on the first day of school.

Thanks!

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Can someone please post two good pics comparing the two?
I've looked online on various forums but the difference for this noob is hard to spot.

I feel like I'm the new kid on the first day of school.

Thanks!
There's lots of topics on this. Try the search function. Cheers
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There's lots of topics on this. Try the search function. Cheers
I know, and it may seem silly and childish but I was unaware that this forum was THIS good and responsive!

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This thread has been merged with the identical thread posted in the "Tech" section..

There is no reason to have multiple identical threads on the Forum..
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