Temporarily traded by Chrono Avenger

[roadcarver]

I've temporarily traded my Chrono Avenger for an Omega speedmaster Schumacher Legend on SS bracelet to a collector in Edmonton.

Temporarily, meaning both sides have agreed that after two months and if one side decides to want their original babies back, we can do so.

I'm waiting for the Speedmaster to arrive and see how it looks and feels. I'm particularly interested in the FP 3301 movement on it with the 9,6 and 3 subdial arrangement with the date at six o'clock. There were reported issues about chrono functionality due to the column wheel, but it has since fixed by Omega.

Will post pictures when it comes and we'll see if after two months whether I long for my CA again.

[JJ Irani]

And you fellas have the audacity to call me a flipper!!

Look forward to the pics, Venon!!

[astcell]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

And you fellas have the audacity to call me a flipper!!

Look forward to the pics, Venon!!

Well JJ, you buy the watch thinking not about trading it, but after you trade it what can you trade the NEXT watch for! You got us all beat!

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by astcell

Well JJ, you buy the watch thinking not about trading it, but after you trade it what can you trade the NEXT watch for! You got us all beat!

[roadcarver]

Scammed! Do not deal with Steve Francouer of Edmonton, AB Canada. Also went by the name of Steve Scaif, S.F Francouer, Steve Francois Francouer.

119 Wellington Cr.
Spruce Grove, AB
Canada T7X 1K7
780-946-6956

If you are on Timezone, do not make your email addy public, hide it... this can be done via the PROFILE settings. He scours these forums, looks at your profile and emails you directly. He is not registered at these forums.

uses the following email addresses:
[email protected] (xXx)
[email protected] (msn)
[email protected] (J&S)
[email protected] (his paypal addy)

Be careful of his reference, Charles McDowel ([email protected]). I believe he is generating his own references.

[mickiratt]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

Scammed! Do not deal with Steve Francouer of Edmonton, AB Canada. Also went by the name of Steve Scaif, S.F Francouer, Steve Francois Francouer.

119 Wellington Cr.
Spruce Grove, AB
Canada T7X 1K7
780-946-6956

If you are on Timezone, do not make your email addy public, hide it... this can be done via the PROFILE settings. He scours these forums, looks at your profile and emails you directly. He is not registered at these forums.

uses the following email addresses:
[email protected] (xXx)
[email protected] (msn)
[email protected] (J&S)
[email protected] (his paypal addy)

Be careful of his reference, Charles McDowel ([email protected]). I believe he is generating his own references.

It always makes me sick to hear when this kind of thing happens! Maybe you can share some more details of the transaction so we can possibly help and/or learn from your experience. I am very sorry to hear this. I know how we all feel about our watches!

[roadcarver]

We'll see after two months!

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

And you fellas have the audacity to call me a flipper!!

Look forward to the pics, Venon!!

[President]

The address is suburban. Surely this would not be his real address?

[Solo118]

Did you insure the package?? This is horrible

[roadcarver]

Yep, insured it for $3k. I have to also make a call to the Ombudsman for Canada Post to get this sorted out since I did ask them not to deliver the package.

Originally Posted by Solo118

Did you insure the package?? This is horrible

[mickiratt]

Originally Posted by Solo118

Did you insure the package?? This is horrible

Good question. In the United States, mail fraud is taken very seriously and if it is a crime involving the Post Office, it is a federal offense and they will take over the investigation without you having to do anything else.

Also, if there were any funds transfered via paypal you may want to report it to their Resolution Center. They have the ability to freeze his account while he has to prove that he shipped the item.

[Rubenonfire]

We're crossing our fingers (but not holding our collective breath) for justice, Vernon. Lesson learned, and enjoy your "temporary" Speedy!

[ianmedium]

Wow! I am so sorry to hear about this Vernon. I hope, A. he gets caught! B. you are not out of pocket one dime from this.
Good luck with it all!

[roadcarver]

Provided the watch info to Breitling Canada and have asked Breitling Canada to notify BUSA as well that the watch was stolen.

Still no word from RCMP... don't think they care.

[colemanitis]

Keep us updated, Vernon. You have his address, surely the local police can pay him a visit?

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by colemanitis

Keep us updated, Vernon. You have his address, surely the local police can pay him a visit?

I also hope that you can get the active interest and co-operation if the postal service and local police.

Heres hoping.

[roadcarver]

I filed this with Crimestoppers but they wouldn't help since I am the person providing the tip and the victim, hence it will violate their protocols.

They referred me to recol.ca which I already did last week.

Another person that was scammed by him in Los Angeles got a hold of a detective in Edmonton Police Dept. All of us started to call, but we only got his voice mail, we left a message. I have not received a call from him yet.

[roadcarver]

Update: After several emails back and forth with Paypal, they finally acknowledged my complaint and are having their investigators look into it.

I initially couldn't do it via my account since the bastard cancelled the e-check. After explaining to them why I couldn't do it several times, someone smart in their support finally got what I was conveying.

Now I have to wait patiently one more time.

Thanks to all for your support especially to Mikiratt and IanMedium.

Still crossing my fingers...

[mickiratt]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

Update: After several emails back and forth with Paypal, they finally acknowledged my complaint and are having their investigators look into it.

I initially couldn't do it via my account since the bastard cancelled the e-check. After explaining to them why I couldn't do it several times, someone smart in their support finally got what I was conveying.

Now I have to wait patiently one more time.

Thanks to all for your support especially to Mikiratt and IanMedium.

Still crossing my fingers...

That's great news Vernon. Your persistence will pay off. I had to go with a couple of Paypal service representatives as well before I got to one that was "in-tune" with my problem.

It's my pleasure to help in any way! It just infuriates me when I see this type of thing happen.

[colemanitis]

It should take PayPal about 2 seconds to look at this guys payment history and confirm what you're saying. His account probably has record of hundreds of cancelled e-checks. IMHO they should've caught this before now and cancelled his account.

[Rodentman]

I cancelled my PP account. Fees are too high and my bank told me PP is very fraud prone, whether an intentional scam or account hacking. If I want to buy badly enough and the seller wants to sell, we will find a way to make a deal w/o PP.

[SSD]

Roadcarver,
The times I have dealt with the RCMP they weren't too quick, but they were conscientious and thorough. I recommend staying with them, and if necessary asking to speak with a supervisor. If they're like the FBI or U.S. Postal Inspectors, this sort of thing is indeed their jurisdiction and specialty. I'm sorry all this happened, and rather upset with PayPal for not handling the problem. If the area forum members are willing, maybe we should publish this guy's photos, and the rest of his life, on the web, you know, to help him out... BTW- there should be an initial police report for whatever passes (in Canada) for theft by deception. Try to get your watch entered on the Canadian version of NCIC just in case the watch gets "ran" using its serial number. Good luck!