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Old 28 October 2011, 10:52 PM   #1
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Daytona Help....

I have been told that the Zenith Dayton's are more collectible but that the new in-house movement Daytona's are better watches???
Keeping in mind that "Better" is a relative term, I was wondering what Daytona owners think in this regard...
I have been contemplating a Daytona purchase and wanted to get a consensus.
Many Thanks...
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Old 28 October 2011, 11:07 PM   #2
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I believe Rolex would never take a step backward with new products, therefore 4130 movement is better. In house = more quodos
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Old 29 October 2011, 12:24 AM   #3
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I have been told that the Zenith Dayton's are more collectible but that the new in-house movement Daytona's are better watches???
Keeping in mind that "Better" is a relative term, I was wondering what Daytona owners think in this regard...
I have been contemplating a Daytona purchase and wanted to get a consensus.
Many Thanks...
If you want a Daytona just buy the one you want its that simple both Zenith and the in-house are fine watches.Now which one is better well the main difference is the power reserve and the price.
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Old 29 October 2011, 12:50 AM   #4
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i personally prefer the in-house movement.

can you imaging one day Zenith decided to refuse any spare parts for RSC? (j/k)
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Old 29 October 2011, 01:06 AM   #5
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IMHO, one is not "better" than the other, I do like the whole idea of companies having in-house movements though. Just for the sake of everything falling under the one company's umbrella. If that makes sense.

I personally have a 116250 "random serial" and couldn't be happier. However, I wouldn't be any less happy with a Zenith movement, had it been the one available when I was purchasing. I just wanted to buy new, so I guess I went with the only route available.

I tend to see people with in-house, like in-house. People with Zenith, like Zenith. I can't say I see many people wishing they had the other if they have one. If that says anything...

If you are buying used I would personally focus on the particular watch. Condition, documentation, and price weighing in more than a particular movement model.

Just my two cents!
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Old 29 October 2011, 01:12 AM   #6
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IMHO, one is not "better" than the other, I do like the whole idea of companies having in-house movements though. Just for the sake of everything falling under the one company's umbrella. If that makes sense.

I personally have a 116250 "random serial" and couldn't be happier. However, I wouldn't be any less happy with a Zenith movement, had it been the one available when I was purchasing. I just wanted to buy new, so I guess I went with the only route available.

I tend to see people with in-house, like in-house. People with Zenith, like Zenith. I can't say I see many people wishing they had the other if they have one. If that says anything...

If you are buying used I would personally focus on the particular watch. Condition, documentation, and price weighing in more than a particular movement model.

Just my two cents!

I agree with what unlisted said, focus more on Condition, documentation, and price. good luck.
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Old 29 October 2011, 01:47 AM   #7
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Strictly speaking from a "looks" standpoint, I fine the white dial SS Daytona with a Zenith movement to be much more attractive having the sub-dials outlined in black versus the in-house movement white dialed SS Daytona which has its sub-dials outlined in silver.
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Old 29 October 2011, 02:45 AM   #8
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Strictly speaking from a "looks" standpoint, I fine the white dial SS Daytona with a Zenith movement to be much more attractive having the sub-dials outlined in black versus the in-house movement white dialed SS Daytona which has its sub-dials outlined in silver.
I totally agree, I also like the layout having the seconds hand at the 9:00 position as opposed to the 6:00. For me, my desire for the in-house movement out-weighs that, but it sure would be nice.
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Old 29 October 2011, 02:41 AM   #9
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I think it's more a personal preference thing more than anything else.
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Old 30 October 2011, 12:01 AM   #10
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i was thinking and researching about this question before my purchase. once i bought a Daytona and slapped it on my wrist, it doesn't matter anymore where the sub-dials are located or whether it's a 4030 or 4130 movement inside. it just works and looks great.

what matters most is you get a dial you like.
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Old 30 October 2011, 12:30 AM   #11
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There are certainly far less 16520s "out there" than the current 116520.

The ratio increases every day.

Out of these 16520s certain variants are very much sought after by collectors and in no small part due to their very finite numbers.

"Better" is such an subjective term it never really serves a useful purpose.

A collector would think an R serial porcelain dialled 16520 is 2 X "better" than a current 116520 and would back that up with twice the amount of hard cash on the table.

A watchmaker would have a more objective view on the two movements but even his/her views would not be clear cut.
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Purely from a technical perspective the in house Rolex Daytona movement is way way superior to the old zenith. But you make your choice!
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Old 30 October 2011, 02:00 AM   #13
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love both Daytona.... I would strive to get the zenith model one day.
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I have been told that the Zenith Dayton's are more collectible but that the new in-house movement Daytona's are better watches???
Keeping in mind that "Better" is a relative term, I was wondering what Daytona owners think in this regard...
I have been contemplating a Daytona purchase and wanted to get a consensus.
Many Thanks...
True, the 4130 is has much more advantages over the 4030. The newer bracelets are also better than many of the older Zenith models.

It is also true that the Zenith model is more collectable.
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