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jayys2 · 8 January 2012, 12:58 PM

Selling my Rolex Milgauss 116400GV, couple points to throw out; you should know that I am new to the forum and do not have any references, i'm trying to sell my first watch and have to start somewhere. Therefore I am cutting the price down to 5000$ guaranteeing you the watch is the cheapest Milgauss on this forum for the condition it is in. The watch as you can see, has NO DINGS NOR SCRATCHES ON IT WHATSOEVER. It is in absolute amazing condition and been given minimal wrist time. I have all the necessary Box and papers to prove authenticity. I will ship via FedEx (1-3 business days) fully insured. I will also be giving you a 2 week guarantee, for absolutely any concerns/problems or anything for that matter. I realize some of you may be uneasy due to the lack of feedback/references, therefore will do my best to provide as much as I can to ensure safety. Please PM me at any time if you have any questions.

Lol-x · 9 January 2012, 07:17 PM

The forum reserves the right to make spot checks.

This is a spot check..

Please post a clear photograph of the watch together with a piece of paper containing your username and today's date.

Failure to comply with this spot check within 24 hours will result in a sever restriction being placed upon your participation rights on this website.

Thank you

Lol-x · 9 January 2012, 10:56 PM

Not satisfactory.

Banning is final and permanent, no correspondence will be entered into.

LeotheLion · 9 January 2012, 11:17 PM

Well done on banning him. He joined the forum and posted 16 posts on the 4th january 2012 between 05.36pm and 05.77pm then tried selling next day.

Mosco · 9 January 2012, 11:29 PM

I friggin knew it. Offered to buy the watch from him, but have him send first - and I'd pay upon receipt, since he couldn't provide any references. He refused saying he was being 'showered' with offers - but then BUMPed it the same day, then posting it again the next. Spidey senses were tingling overtime....

johnbeth · 9 January 2012, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosco

I Spidey senses were tingling overtime....

When they tingle they tingle. Horse manure you can smell from miles away!

luzer · 10 January 2012, 12:35 AM

i almost fell for it... so desperate for a good deal...
he said he had an ebay account account but had to remove it for 'scammers'
good job admins

Mosritemike · 10 January 2012, 01:28 AM

Funny, refused to do a F2F meeting due to being "scammed before" - despite offering any payment method he was comfortable with (at that price, I would have gone to the bank with him). Good catch - clearly not above board on this.

Too good to be true.

taylor910 · 10 January 2012, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luzer

i almost fell for it... so desperate for a good deal...
he said he had an ebay account account but had to remove it for 'scammers'
good job admins

Said the same thing to me. I think it's funny how many people were trying to negotiate a deal even knowing it was most likely a scam, myself included.

Trf is amazing.

hanybad · 10 January 2012, 03:16 AM

I was just waiting to see when is this thread going to end up in the watch out section and finally it did.... Thanks to good work by the MOD'S.

jizeal · 10 January 2012, 06:35 AM

Stevo you should post his email address that he used to register with.

Mosco · 10 January 2012, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jizeal

Stevo you should post his email address that he used to register with.

Here you go:

name: adam gazith

email [email protected]

hanybad · 10 January 2012, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosco

Here you go:

name: adam gazith

email [email protected]

His name us Adam Cohen and he has the same watch listed on Toronto Kijiji.

hanybad · 10 January 2012, 07:16 AM

Here is the link to the listing:

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ342540817

77T · 10 January 2012, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanybad

Here is the link to the listing:

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ342540817

Reported

Mosco · 10 January 2012, 07:33 AM

Someone is going to get boned.

1340jas · 10 January 2012, 07:40 AM

Well spotted. Someone could have lost a lot of money. It's still for sale on the Canadian site

BOA · 10 January 2012, 07:45 AM

The ad says he only accepts Paypal. Does that mean that if boned, someone would get their money back after filing a claim? I was just surprised not to see Western Union or one of the other services usually used in scams.

77T · 10 January 2012, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOA

The ad says he only accepts Paypal. Does that mean that if boned, someone would get their money back after filing a claim? I was just surprised not to see Western Union or one of the other services usually used in scams.

Not if he pulls the funds out before you file the claim. Many scammers create PayPal accts. and then run several sales in short period of time. Skip with the funds.

F&Iguy · 10 January 2012, 08:12 AM

good job by all, great site (TRF)and nice to see the bad people get banned

BOA · 10 January 2012, 08:17 AM

Thanks 77T. I see. Unbelievable. I thought Paypal accounts were directly connected to bank and credit card info, so I was thinking the scammer could be found quite easily and wouldn't do it that way. I guess they must have fake bank accounts as well.

77T · 10 January 2012, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOA

Unbelievable. I see. Thanks. I thought Paypal accounts were directly connected to bank and credit card info, so I was thinking the scammer could be found quite easily and wouldn't do it that way. I guess they must have fake bank accounts as well.

Their bank account is real - but disposable - they can use any identity they want. Like online banks in foreign countries. PayPal also provides a debit card so a scammer can spend down their balance to zero before buyers file.

BOA · 10 January 2012, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

Their bank account is real - but disposable - they can use any identity they want. Like online banks in foreign countries. PayPal also provides a debit card so a scammer can spend down their balance to zero before buyers file.

Man, you're quick on the draw.

You caught my text before my edit, which I did to thank you and tie it to you after I saw there were already several posts between us. I'd forgotten to click the quote button.

Seems to me that scammers have it all set up too conveniently to conduct business and that all the online outfits including Paypal should be doing more to thwart them. Thanks again.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 10 January 2012, 08:21 AM

Lol-x

Thank for your diligence in keeping scum off TRF.

bassplayrr · 10 January 2012, 08:54 AM

Admins:

Great job with the 'spot check' and the subsequent banning when he failed to comply. Obviously forum sale sections are Buyer Beware, but the effort made to protect your patrons is sincerely appreciated. Another reason I love this place.

steebee2 · 10 January 2012, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassplayrr

Admins:

Great job with the 'spot check' and the subsequent banning when he failed to comply. Obviously forum sale sections are Buyer Beware, but the effort made to protect your patrons is sincerely appreciated. Another reason I love this place.

X2....What he said. I was looking at that watch and the price was actually a bigger red flag than his zero references. Thx!

highcaliber7 · 30 January 2012, 07:27 AM

I totally, totally, agree!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassplayrr

Admins:

Great job with the 'spot check' and the subsequent banning when he failed to comply. Obviously forum sale sections are Buyer Beware, but the effort made to protect your patrons is sincerely appreciated. Another reason I love this place.

Chozn1 · 10 January 2012, 09:09 AM

I also was a buyer on the condition that he send me a pic with the day's date and his username written. He said he'd do so but of course he didn't do anything but send a request for payment on PayPal. I've got the request if it would be of any use.

bayerische · 10 January 2012, 09:12 AM

Nice catch guys.

cajunron · 10 January 2012, 12:31 PM

Great work Stevo!

8 January 2012, 12:58 PM	#1
jayys2 Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 18	FS: Near Mint Rolex Milgauss 116400GV Green Sapphire Incl. Box and Papers Selling my Rolex Milgauss 116400GV, couple points to throw out; you should know that I am new to the forum and do not have any references, i'm trying to sell my first watch and have to start somewhere. Therefore I am cutting the price down to 5000$ guaranteeing you the watch is the cheapest Milgauss on this forum for the condition it is in. The watch as you can see, has NO DINGS NOR SCRATCHES ON IT WHATSOEVER. It is in absolute amazing condition and been given minimal wrist time. I have all the necessary Box and papers to prove authenticity. I will ship via FedEx (1-3 business days) fully insured. I will also be giving you a 2 week guarantee, for absolutely any concerns/problems or anything for that matter. I realize some of you may be uneasy due to the lack of feedback/references, therefore will do my best to provide as much as I can to ensure safety. Please PM me at any time if you have any questions. Attached Images

9 January 2012, 07:17 PM	#2
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,587	The forum reserves the right to make spot checks. This is a spot check.. Please post a clear photograph of the watch together with a piece of paper containing your username and today's date. Failure to comply with this spot check within 24 hours will result in a sever restriction being placed upon your participation rights on this website. Thank you __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

9 January 2012, 10:56 PM	#3
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,587	Not satisfactory. Banning is final and permanent, no correspondence will be entered into. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

9 January 2012, 11:29 PM	#5
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	I friggin knew it. Offered to buy the watch from him, but have him send first - and I'd pay upon receipt, since he couldn't provide any references. He refused saying he was being 'showered' with offers - but then BUMPed it the same day, then posting it again the next. Spidey senses were tingling overtime.... __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

10 January 2012, 07:33 AM	#16
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Someone is going to get boned. __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

9 January 2012, 11:17 PM	#4
LeotheLion Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dennis Location: England Watch: GMT2 and Datejust Posts: 440	Well done on banning him. He joined the forum and posted 16 posts on the 4th january 2012 between 05.36pm and 05.77pm then tried selling next day.

10 January 2012, 12:35 AM	#7
luzer "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: new york, usa Posts: 37	i almost fell for it... so desperate for a good deal... he said he had an ebay account account but had to remove it for 'scammers' good job admins

10 January 2012, 01:28 AM	#8
Mosritemike "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Canada Watch: tag Monaco Posts: 3	Funny, refused to do a F2F meeting due to being "scammed before" - despite offering any payment method he was comfortable with (at that price, I would have gone to the bank with him). Good catch - clearly not above board on this. Too good to be true.

10 January 2012, 03:16 AM	#10
hanybad "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Hany Location: Canada Watch: 116523,116710,5513 Posts: 529	I was just waiting to see when is this thread going to end up in the watch out section and finally it did.... Thanks to good work by the MOD'S.

10 January 2012, 06:35 AM	#11
jizeal "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: South Florida Watch: neilswatches@gmail Posts: 5,157	Stevo you should post his email address that he used to register with.

10 January 2012, 07:16 AM	#14
hanybad "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Hany Location: Canada Watch: 116523,116710,5513 Posts: 529	Here is the link to the listing: http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ342540817

10 January 2012, 07:40 AM	#17
1340jas "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: Wales Watch: SS Sub Date 'V' Posts: 199	Well spotted. Someone could have lost a lot of money. It's still for sale on the Canadian site

10 January 2012, 07:45 AM	#18
BOA "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Bruce Location: Chicago, IL Watch: Meteorite DD Posts: 2,407	The ad says he only accepts Paypal. Does that mean that if boned, someone would get their money back after filing a claim? I was just surprised not to see Western Union or one of the other services usually used in scams.

10 January 2012, 08:12 AM	#20
F&Iguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: WA state Watch: EXP 39mm Posts: 278	good job by all, great site (TRF)and nice to see the bad people get banned

10 January 2012, 08:17 AM	#21
BOA "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Bruce Location: Chicago, IL Watch: Meteorite DD Posts: 2,407	Thanks 77T. I see. Unbelievable. I thought Paypal accounts were directly connected to bank and credit card info, so I was thinking the scammer could be found quite easily and wouldn't do it that way. I guess they must have fake bank accounts as well.

10 January 2012, 08:21 AM	#24
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Lol-x Thank for your diligence in keeping scum off TRF. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

10 January 2012, 08:54 AM	#25
bassplayrr "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SF Bay/Dallas Watch: 116610LV, 3570.50 Posts: 225	Admins: Great job with the 'spot check' and the subsequent banning when he failed to comply. Obviously forum sale sections are Buyer Beware, but the effort made to protect your patrons is sincerely appreciated. Another reason I love this place. __________________ Rolexes: Yachtmaster Rose Gold 116655, Submariner “Hulk” 116610LV, Milguass "GV" 116400GV

10 January 2012, 09:09 AM	#28
Chozn1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South GA Watch: Sub and President Posts: 1,501	I also was a buyer on the condition that he send me a pic with the day's date and his username written. He said he'd do so but of course he didn't do anything but send a request for payment on PayPal. I've got the request if it would be of any use. __________________ Current Models... (K)Bluesy (M) TT DJ In search of DayDate Prior models... Just about everything.

10 January 2012, 09:12 AM	#29
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Nice catch guys. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

10 January 2012, 12:31 PM	#30
cajunron 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,872	Great work Stevo! __________________

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