The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Rolex General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 2 March 2012, 06:53 PM   #1
JRoyale
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 23
Old or New

Hi guys cant decide what to do and would appreciate your advise!

So should i buy a used sub 9 years old that hasnt been serviced or should I take the plunge and put the extra cash towards a new one?

What will hold its value more?
JRoyale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 06:58 PM   #2
globalmedia33
"TRF" Member
 
globalmedia33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Real Name: Thien
Location: Frisco,TX/Saigon
Watch: All Rolex
Posts: 2,754
Save some more and buy a new one. Just my opinion.
__________________
Sub. 5513
116710LN
116610LV
“I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO
globalmedia33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6 March 2012, 04:18 AM   #3
FX44
"TRF" Member
 
FX44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Real Name: John
Location: Charlotte, NC
Watch: Submariner 114060
Posts: 518
Quote:
Originally Posted by globalmedia33 View Post
save some more and buy a new one. Just my opinion.
+1
__________________
Submariner 114060
FX44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 07:55 PM   #4
bondtoys
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: World
Watch: 16750
Posts: 2,733
If you only look at the "value-holding", you should go for the used Sub

In 10 years, the 10-yo Sub C may be slightly more valuable than the 19yo "old model" (it could be vice-versa though..) but the initial owner will have taken the big hit after using the new watch.

As a personal note: Buy what you like - life is too short for compromises
bondtoys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 March 2012, 12:03 AM   #5
slcbbrown
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Real Name: steve
Location: dallas area
Watch: 50's TT t-bird
Posts: 3,689
x2

Quote:
Originally Posted by bondtoys View Post
If you only look at the "value-holding", you should go for the used Sub

In 10 years, the 10-yo Sub C may be slightly more valuable than the 19yo "old model" (it could be vice-versa though..) but the initial owner will have taken the big hit after using the new watch.

As a personal note: Buy what you like - life is too short for compromises
I'm a big fan of used Rolex, in part, because these watches last 50+ years. So, letting someone else use it for a few years makes sense. However, if this is your only watch purchase for the next 50 years, I wouldn't buy pre-owned without learning a little about the brand.
slcbbrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 07:57 PM   #6
padi56
"TRF" Life Patron
 
padi56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Real Name: Peter
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng
Watch: ing you.
Posts: 53,063
Well in general all Rolex watches are good for 50 plus years if correctly serviced, even a 9 years old Sub that's not been serviced.Well if condition of watch is good then its been looked after by previous owner,and today most watches like the Sub are not used as a tool watch but mostly pampered it should be fine.But it would be wise to budget in the price a service, once that's done there is no reason the older sub should not perform same a new one.All the Rolex sports watches over the past 50 odd years have always held there price well in the market compared to many other brands so no problem which ever one you buy.
__________________

ICom Pro3

All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only.

"The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever."
Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again.

www.mc0yad.club

Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder
padi56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 08:01 PM   #7
RRGHOST1
"TRF" Member
 
RRGHOST1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Real Name: luke standing
Location: england
Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue
Posts: 3,997
I would buy a new one if this is your first Rolex as the improvements make it a better all round watch. A 10 year old one is still a good watch though,but i wouldn't buy any Rolex for holding value or investment.
RRGHOST1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 08:06 PM   #8
dddrees
"TRF" Member
 
dddrees's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Real Name: Dan
Location: USA
Watch: This N That
Posts: 34,253
I recommend you look at both and decide which one you like best. The one you like best would be worth more to you.
__________________
When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion.

Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation.

Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of
Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons
dddrees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 08:31 PM   #9
Xeloragemo
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Real Name: Kai
Location: London, UK
Watch: Submariner 16610
Posts: 73
I would wait to see any New Releases at Basel Fair next week.
Ideally Rolex will announce a 42mm Submariner with more tapered lugs like the New Explorer II 42mm.
The current Submariner C is Too Fat for my taste.
Xeloragemo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 08:32 PM   #10
bayerische
"TRF" Member
 
bayerische's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Real Name: Andreas
Location: Margaritaville
Watch: Smurf
Posts: 19,879
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeloragemo View Post
I would wait if any New Releases at Basel Fair next week.
Ideally Rolex will announce a 42mm Submariner with more tapered lugs like the New Explorer II 42mm.
That will not happen. The sub has just been revised. Expect next revision in 10-20 years.




And oh the horror of a 42mm sub!
__________________
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
bayerische is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 March 2012, 07:04 AM   #11
gwalker
"TRF" Member
 
gwalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Gunter
Location: AL/NJ
Watch: DSSD; 116610LN
Posts: 5,509
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeloragemo View Post
I would wait to see any New Releases at Basel Fair next week.
Ideally Rolex will announce a 42mm Submariner with more tapered lugs like the New Explorer II 42mm.
The current Submariner C is Too Fat for my taste.
I want some of whatever you've been taking..... Rolex runs productions 10+ years and the sub was just updated.

OP buy the new watch.
gwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 08:31 PM   #12
bayerische
"TRF" Member
 
bayerische's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Real Name: Andreas
Location: Margaritaville
Watch: Smurf
Posts: 19,879
I like the old sub better than the new, so I would get the new. Try and get it for the market price minus the cost of servicing.

But it's up to you. Both will be awesome. But the 9 year old should be due for a service, so keep the service time in mind also, might not be fun to buy a watch, and then directly leave it off for service.
__________________
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
bayerische is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 09:19 PM   #13
Art 1
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida, Canada
Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega
Posts: 30,244
Depends what you like.
Art 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 09:24 PM   #14
93 Turbo
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
93 Turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Australia
Watch: Rolex.Tudor.PAM
Posts: 1,554
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art 1 View Post
Depends what you like.
Mate, as Art says. If you prefer the older model get this and have it serviced or dive in and get the current model. You won't go wrong either way.

Damn choices...
93 Turbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 09:27 PM   #15
GradyPhilpott
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
GradyPhilpott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Mexico
Watch: Seiko #SRK047
Posts: 34,460
Depending on the watch and what I knew about it and the owner, I'd choose the 9 year old Sub.

If the watch has not been abused, then 9 years is only two years out from the first recommended service, so as someone noted, figure into your costs a full-service immediately.

All of this depends on the 9 year old Sub being a Sub Date, which is what most people mean these days when they utter the word Sub.

If your talking a 14060, or any one of the classic Submariners, I might be more inclined to buy a new 14060M COSC. In fact, I would be more inclined to buy new.
__________________
JJ

Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner
GradyPhilpott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 10:19 PM   #16
z32turbo
"TRF" Member
 
z32turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Sea Level
Watch: Varies
Posts: 6,877
I prefer the SubC so I'd buy the new one.
__________________


Instagram @z32turbo
z32turbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 10:22 PM   #17
capote
"TRF" Member
 
capote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Real Name: Daniel
Location: Sweden
Watch: 16570
Posts: 7,315
If its a sub date its different models. I prefer the old. If its ND I prefer box fresh.
capote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 11:23 PM   #18
JRoyale
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 23
Sorry guys, yes the old one I'm looking at is a sub date. Comes with outer and inner box and papers plus the original sticker is still on the back and its in really good condition.
JRoyale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 11:45 PM   #19
padi56
"TRF" Life Patron
 
padi56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Real Name: Peter
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng
Watch: ing you.
Posts: 53,063
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRoyale View Post
Sorry guys, yes the old one I'm looking at is a sub date. Comes with outer and inner box and papers plus the original sticker is still on the back and its in really good condition.
Well the so called papers are just a warranty paper much like any other warranty paper you get with most products today.But as the watch in question is 9 years old, all it it now is a outdated bit of paper.Now when you get watch serviced at the RSC you will get service papers, with all the watches information on it and that paper will be a current valid two year warranty.And if you buy the older sub and that's the one I would buy, first thing to do after you have you have given it a full manual wind, is removed that case back sticker.
__________________

ICom Pro3

All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only.

"The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever."
Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again.

www.mc0yad.club

Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder
padi56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 March 2012, 12:58 AM   #20
azguy
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Real Name: -------
Location: -------
Watch: ---------
Posts: 12,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRoyale View Post
Sorry guys, yes the old one I'm looking at is a sub date. Comes with outer and inner box and papers plus the original sticker is still on the back and its in really good condition.
You haven't told us how much, becuase that does matter, and you have some bargining power, I would knock $600 off for a service or move on to another watch.
azguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 11:56 PM   #21
SaddleSC
"TRF" Member
 
SaddleSC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Real Name: Charles B
Location: GMT -7
Watch: Hulk 116610LV
Posts: 6,131
I have both and I prefer the new one...hands down, no question about it. In fact, after getting used to the Glidelock, I find it hard to wear the old style for any length of time.
__________________
Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB
SaddleSC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 March 2012, 11:56 PM   #22
Keeperoftime
"TRF" Member
 
Keeperoftime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Real Name: Jeremy
Location: Louisiana
Watch: Rolex
Posts: 2,732
Buy a 10 year old Sub that has been serviced :)
__________________
As a man is, so he sees. As the eye is formed, such are its powers.
William Blake
Keeperoftime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 March 2012, 12:08 AM   #23
mtrunner
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
mtrunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Real Name: Gary
Location: Bozeman, MT
Watch: 126508 Paul Newman
Posts: 7,835
I would go with a new watch. The old sub needs to be sent in for a service. Wouldn't it be nice to just purchase a new watch and put it on your wrist instead of buying the old watch and not seeing it for a couple of months while it is being serviced?
mtrunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 March 2012, 12:15 AM   #24
Speed
"TRF" Member
 
Speed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 19,706
Which style do you prefer???

I would advise you to get that one.

That's my advice... :-)
Speed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 March 2012, 12:23 AM   #25
Rags
2024 Pledge Member
 
Rags's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Real Name: Chuck
Location: SW Florida
Watch: 16233,16610,214270
Posts: 11,196
If it was me I would go for a preowned depending on the price. A 10 yr old sub isn't that old & if it needs a servicing it will come back as good as a new one.
__________________
16233 Y Serial Datejust
16610 Z Serial Submariner
214270 Explorer

114300 Oyster Perpetual
76200 Tudor Date+Day
Rags is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 March 2012, 01:04 AM   #26
The Joker
"TRF" Member
 
The Joker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Gotham
Posts: 9,641
New for me. It's worth the extra cash and piece of mind. As long as it's gonna be a keeper and you are not gonna flip it.

You probably wont get a discount from a UK AD so a no brainer would be to take the 0% finance.

The question you should be asking is do you want the old sub or new ceramic.
The Joker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 March 2012, 02:15 AM   #27
JRoyale
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 23
The price is £3000 might be able to get it for a bit less, its a private sale from a colleague of mine. I'm thinking about £500 for a service so all in £3500. Really cant decide what to do!!
JRoyale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 March 2012, 02:29 AM   #28
Brian J
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Minnesota
Watch: Rolex and Tudor
Posts: 369
As much as I like the new ceramics I say go with the used one. Then take the money you saved and buy another used piece down the road. (this is coming from a guy with an 11 year old submariner)
Brian J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 March 2012, 03:13 AM   #29
kilyung
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
kilyung's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Cave
Watch: Sundial
Posts: 33,940
Buy used and look for a new clasp with the savings!
kilyung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 March 2012, 07:28 AM   #30
JRoyale
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 23
This is probably the most difficult decision I've had to make in a long while!! Buying a used one and using the cash saved to put towards another one is growing on me though!
JRoyale is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Wrist Aficionado

My Watch LLC

WatchesOff5th

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.