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captiva · 4 March 2012, 02:16 AM

hi,

my dssd is losing time of 20 sec for 24hrs. Is this normal? What is the standards and what should i do now?

help..thanks

azguy · 4 March 2012, 02:23 AM

How old is the watch

It may need service, or hopefully just a regulation by a good watchmaker or RSC if you have one close by.

Good luck

SeamasterGMT · 5 March 2012, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy

How old is the watch

It may need service, or hopefully just a regulation by a good watchmaker or RSC if you have one close by.

Good luck

It's a Deepsea! it can't be more than 3 1/2 years old so it definitely shouldn't need a service.

travisb · 5 March 2012, 08:10 PM

Take it in for a check up if the timing still isn't up to par.

captiva · 4 March 2012, 02:23 AM

I bought it brand new from AD last month.

Daniel Tan · 4 March 2012, 02:24 AM

Impossible man... When u get ur watch? Try to wear for another one more week.... Dont measure if it is not fully wind up...

captiva · 4 March 2012, 02:28 AM

I set the time using time.gov and I had fully wind up (30 full rounds each day) after 24hrs, I compare the time movement vs the time.gov. The different is around 20sec.

this is the correct way?

May I know what is the standard?

NYC6 · 4 March 2012, 02:46 AM

COSC standards are -4/+6 seconds a day. Monitor the time loss over a week or two and take the average. If its outside COSC I would bring the watch back to the AD to check for magnitization and have the piece regulated. Losing 20s a day in not acceptable. Keep us updated, good luck.

Do I understand you're winding the watch every day? Thats not necessary at all.
Fully wind the watch, set time to your reliable source and dont touch it for a week or two and wear as usual then factor the time difference over that period. Rolex movements dont need to be wound daily. I give mine a wind once a month when I reset to GMT time.

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Tools · 4 March 2012, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captiva

hi,

my dssd is losing time of 20 sec for 24hrs. Is this normal? What is the standards and what should i do now?

help..thanks

No, it is not normal..

After you do a proper test over a week, (at the end of the week, note the difference and divide by the days) if it is not running within a couple of seconds a day, take it in and have it regulated..

captiva · 4 March 2012, 03:07 AM

The feeling is shitty especially this is a brand new time piece from AD.

azguy · 4 March 2012, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captiva

The feeling is shitty especially this is a brand new time piece from AD.

No worries, it's a highly complex machine behind that dial

A full wind is 40 turns by the way, but that's probably not the issue.

Your AD can Regulate, tune, the watch in a few minutes if they have a watchmaker on the premises.

I think Rolex also states 8-10 hours of wear is needed and activity levels count to, if you sit at a desk all day. I know I never get 10 hours of wear out of my watches, so I use a winder when not on the wrist

Keep us posted

FremStar · 4 March 2012, 03:17 AM

Exactly what John said. Keep us posted captiva. Damn...

captiva · 4 March 2012, 03:30 AM

I am wondering is there such things as OVER WIND the rolex?

what will happen if i over wind the watch?

azguy · 4 March 2012, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captiva

I am wondering is there such things as OVER WIND the rolex?

what will happen if i over wind the watch?

From everything I have heard, it's almost impossible

Tools · 4 March 2012, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captiva

I am wondering is there such things as OVER WIND the rolex?

what will happen if i over wind the watch?

No, there is no such thing as "overwinding".

Your Rolex will only wind so far and then the mainspring will simply slip inside it's captive barrel, regardless of how many more times you turn the crown..

Director EDTF · 4 March 2012, 04:19 AM

Wait another 2-3 weeks. I got mine the end of January and it was running +10-13. It is now +2. I guess some of the watches take a little longer to break in.

padi56 · 4 March 2012, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captiva

hi,

my dssd is losing time of 20 sec for 24hrs. Is this normal? What is the standards and what should i do now?

help..thanks

No its not normal but not much information to give a better answer.Did you fully wind your watch 40 fall crown turns clockwise only.What are you wearing habits to you wear it for more the 8 hours plus a day.Is the time lost while wearing or off wrist or is watch on a machine.Your watch as all mechanical Rolex watches should perform to a AVERAGE of between -4 to + 6 seconds over any 24 hour period.

captiva · 4 March 2012, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

No its not normal but not much information to give a better answer.Did you fully wind your watch 40 fall crown turns clockwise only.What are you wearing habits to you wear it for more the 8 hours plus a day.Is the time lost while wearing or off wrist or is watch on a machine.Your watch as all mechanical Rolex watches should perform to a AVERAGE of between -4 to + 6 seconds over any 24 hour period.

I wear my watch 3 days in a week with average time of 8 hours and whenever i not wearing the watch, I wind my watch 20 rounds in the morning and leave it on the shelves and when I return home wind another 15-20 rounds.

mike · 4 March 2012, 04:41 AM

As stated that's well outside specs. Also as stated there's not a lot of information to go on as to wearing habits.

Rolex recommends winding the watch at least 40 turns. Due to the built in clutch you can't overwind the watch (think self-winding movement that would overwind through wearing without this feature).

Your wearing habits affect the rate of a watch. My guess is you're not wearing the watch enough from your discription. COSC rates are an average from different positions.

If it needs regulation keep in mind that while any good watchmaker can do this the DSSD needs special equiment to re-pressure check the case. To my knowledge only Rolex has the equiment to test to it's given depth.

xxthe_remedyxx · 4 March 2012, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

As stated that's well outside specs. Also as stated there's not a lot of information to go on as to wearing habits.

Rolex recommends winding the watch at least 40 turns. Due to the built in clutch you can't overwind the watch (think self-winding movement that would overwind through wearing without this feature).

Your wearing habits affect the rate of a watch. My guess is you're not wearing the watch enough from your discription. COSC rates are an average from different positions.

If it needs regulation keep in mind that while any good watchmaker can do this the DSSD needs special equiment to re-pressure check the case. To my knowledge only Rolex has the equiment to test to it's given depth.

Yep. And before things went to hell with my visit to Rolex NYC, the watchmaker said they would have to hold it for 8 days due to the DSSD's depth rating.

nim · 4 March 2012, 11:02 AM

20sec a day for a new watch is unacceptable and the movement needs to be examined
my 1 yr old daytona loses 20sec in 2weeks (or 1.5second a day)

FNFZ4 · 4 March 2012, 02:12 PM

Its under warranty right?

GradyPhilpott · 4 March 2012, 02:45 PM

A regulation is pretty quick and generally free under warranty.

It's nothing to get excited about.

My Explorer was running 13 seconds fast after about a year and a quick regulation has kept it within COSC standards for another two years.

Fifth Ave Rolex Man · 4 March 2012, 03:10 PM

Are you wearing it thru the day? I wear mine all the time and never
need to manually wind it! NYC6 is correct, your DeepSea
should be within the -4 to +6 seconds a day variance!
If its over that, bring it to your AD with the warranty card for them to check this out!

david.m · 4 March 2012, 04:47 PM

I would take it to a Rolex service centre. My DSSD all of a sudden was gaining 25 or so seconds daily after I'd had it for a couple of days. Rolex in Sydney said it was likely the movement was getting too much power (or something like that), they put in a new spring and it has been near perfect over the last year, depending on my wearing habits it varies between zero & -0.5 sec per day (referenced against the Official US Time website).

polarinda · 4 March 2012, 05:12 PM

Why didn't Rolex regulate it when they gave the watch a cosc rating?

padi56 · 4 March 2012, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polarinda

Why didn't Rolex regulate it when they gave the watch a cosc rating?

Rolex themselves don't do the Chronometer certification a independent third party does that called the Swiss COSC.And when tested only the bare uncased movement is tested and certified at the time of testing only to say its past said test.

vette boy 52 · 4 March 2012, 09:24 PM

Many time new or newly serviced watches need regulation if for no other reason due to ones wearing habits. I have had my AD "Rolex Certified" watchmaker regulate many of my Rolexes to 1 second a day.

SDDS17 · 5 March 2012, 11:39 AM

My DSD just turned two years old. Just tested accuracy over the past four days. It is currently +1 second for the period. Pretty spot on, and was initally fast when purchased by +8 seconds. Maybe just needs to be broken in.

Good Luck, and do not lose faith!!

captiva · 5 March 2012, 08:12 PM

My watch is one month old. Bought in feb 2012 brand new from local AD.

Been wearing it for the past 2 days and now is losing 10sec...the statistics is improving.

4 March 2012, 02:16 AM	#1
captiva Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: US Posts: 138	DSSD losing time of 20sec hi, my dssd is losing time of 20 sec for 24hrs. Is this normal? What is the standards and what should i do now? help..thanks

5 March 2012, 08:10 PM	#4
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,489	Wear it another week or so. Take it in for a check up if the timing still isn't up to par.

4 March 2012, 03:17 AM	#12
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	Exactly what John said. Keep us posted captiva. Damn... __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

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4 March 2012, 02:45 PM	#23
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,460	A regulation is pretty quick and generally free under warranty. It's nothing to get excited about. My Explorer was running 13 seconds fast after about a year and a quick regulation has kept it within COSC standards for another two years. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

4 March 2012, 02:23 AM	#2
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	How old is the watch It may need service, or hopefully just a regulation by a good watchmaker or RSC if you have one close by. Good luck

4 March 2012, 02:24 AM	#6
Daniel Tan Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: daniel tan Location: Malaysia Watch: DSSD DJ EXPII PAM Posts: 210	Impossible man... When u get ur watch? Try to wear for another one more week.... Dont measure if it is not fully wind up...

4 March 2012, 02:28 AM	#7
captiva Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: US Posts: 138	I set the time using time.gov and I had fully wind up (30 full rounds each day) after 24hrs, I compare the time movement vs the time.gov. The different is around 20sec. this is the correct way? May I know what is the standard?

4 March 2012, 02:46 AM	#8
NYC6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Dennis Location: L.I./N.Y. Watch: SUBMARINER 14060M Posts: 2,769	COSC standards are -4/+6 seconds a day. Monitor the time loss over a week or two and take the average. If its outside COSC I would bring the watch back to the AD to check for magnitization and have the piece regulated. Losing 20s a day in not acceptable. Keep us updated, good luck. Do I understand you're winding the watch every day? Thats not necessary at all. Fully wind the watch, set time to your reliable source and dont touch it for a week or two and wear as usual then factor the time difference over that period. Rolex movements dont need to be wound daily. I give mine a wind once a month when I reset to GMT time. __________________________ XLVI Super Bowl Champs NY Giants

4 March 2012, 03:07 AM	#10
captiva Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: US Posts: 138	The feeling is shitty especially this is a brand new time piece from AD.

4 March 2012, 03:30 AM	#13
captiva Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: US Posts: 138	I am wondering is there such things as OVER WIND the rolex? what will happen if i over wind the watch?

4 March 2012, 04:19 AM	#16
Director EDTF 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Nelson Location: Central, NJ Posts: 2,466	Wait another 2-3 weeks. I got mine the end of January and it was running +10-13. It is now +2. I guess some of the watches take a little longer to break in.

4 March 2012, 04:41 AM	#19
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	As stated that's well outside specs. Also as stated there's not a lot of information to go on as to wearing habits. Rolex recommends winding the watch at least 40 turns. Due to the built in clutch you can't overwind the watch (think self-winding movement that would overwind through wearing without this feature). Your wearing habits affect the rate of a watch. My guess is you're not wearing the watch enough from your discription. COSC rates are an average from different positions. If it needs regulation keep in mind that while any good watchmaker can do this the DSSD needs special equiment to re-pressure check the case. To my knowledge only Rolex has the equiment to test to it's given depth.

4 March 2012, 11:02 AM	#21
nim Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: singapore Watch: cosmograph daytona Posts: 388	20sec a day for a new watch is unacceptable and the movement needs to be examined my 1 yr old daytona loses 20sec in 2weeks (or 1.5second a day)

4 March 2012, 03:10 PM	#24
Fifth Ave Rolex Man Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NYC area Watch: 16520A30 Posts: 538	Are you wearing it thru the day? I wear mine all the time and never need to manually wind it! NYC6 is correct, your DeepSea should be within the -4 to +6 seconds a day variance! If its over that, bring it to your AD with the warranty card for them to check this out!

4 March 2012, 04:47 PM	#25
david.m "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex DSSD, GMTIIc Posts: 43	I would take it to a Rolex service centre. My DSSD all of a sudden was gaining 25 or so seconds daily after I'd had it for a couple of days. Rolex in Sydney said it was likely the movement was getting too much power (or something like that), they put in a new spring and it has been near perfect over the last year, depending on my wearing habits it varies between zero & -0.5 sec per day (referenced against the Official US Time website).

4 March 2012, 05:12 PM	#26
polarinda "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Trav Location: singapore Watch: it Posts: 2,316	Why didn't Rolex regulate it when they gave the watch a cosc rating?

4 March 2012, 09:24 PM	#28
vette boy 52 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Katy, TX Watch: GMT II-c TT Posts: 773	Many time new or newly serviced watches need regulation if for no other reason due to ones wearing habits. I have had my AD "Rolex Certified" watchmaker regulate many of my Rolexes to 1 second a day.

5 March 2012, 11:39 AM	#29
SDDS17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Arizona Watch: EXP2-42, DJ2, SMPO Posts: 347	My DSD just turned two years old. Just tested accuracy over the past four days. It is currently +1 second for the period. Pretty spot on, and was initally fast when purchased by +8 seconds. Maybe just needs to be broken in. Good Luck, and do not lose faith!!

5 March 2012, 08:12 PM	#30
captiva Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: US Posts: 138	My watch is one month old. Bought in feb 2012 brand new from local AD. Been wearing it for the past 2 days and now is losing 10sec...the statistics is improving.

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