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Old 13 September 2007, 05:57 AM   #1
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Daytonaism ~ reaching enlightment.

I would wish to inform the most honourable members of TRF,that I am not seeking any more Daytonas.Enlightment has been reached.The circle is complete.The circle is a white and a black

One white and the black will be kept.The white will be worn,but only after the SD,has been sold.The white was the first choice and is the most destinctive.The black will be kept on ice,since it is the most special.The other white will be offered to my wife,to purchase if she wishes.At MSRP,off course.If not it will be sold and the profit seen as a slight discount on the white and black that I am keeping.Using Daytona to discount Daytona.This is not to say that it will be sold now ...

Then,there is another black in the pipeline,one or two months from now ..... I am not interested.My wife will have the option on that one.If not, it will go to some other lucky person. Live and let live .

Daytonaism ~ Using Daytona,to pay for Daytona.

..... and off course my thoughts on this may change anytime,as soon as tomorrow,who knows ?? !!!!

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Old 13 September 2007, 06:08 AM   #2
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I would wish to inform the most honourable members of TRF,that I am not seeking any more Daytonas.Enlightment has been reached.The circle is complete.The circle is a white and a black

One white and the black will be kept.The white will be worn,but only after the SD,has been sold.The white was the first choice and is the most destinctive.The black will be kept on ice,since it is the most special.The other white will be offered to my wife,to purchase if she wishes.At MSRP,off course.If not it will be sold and the profit seen as a slight discount on the white and black that I am keeping.Using Daytona to discount Daytona.This is not to say that it will be sold now ...

Then,there is another black in the pipeline,one or two months from now ..... I am not interested.My wife will have the option on that one.If not, it will go to some other lucky person. Live and let live .

Daytonaism ~ Using Daytona,to pay for Daytona.

..... and off course my thoughts on this may change anytime,as soon as tomorrow,who knows ?? !!!!


Your gonna SELL it to your wife??
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Old 13 September 2007, 06:10 AM   #3
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Your gonna SELL it to your wife??
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Old 13 September 2007, 06:15 AM   #4
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I had this beemer for sale quite a few years back. Wife decided she might want it. The "yeah sure i'll sell it to you part" did not go over well at all.
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Old 13 September 2007, 06:19 AM   #5
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Your gonna SELL it to your wife??
I sell it to her at MRSP and she can sell it immediately at a profit OR she can keep it OR she can sell her white Expl II,which I gave her and keep the Daytona,then she is getting a bnib Datona at MRSP minus the value of the Expl II.Now thats a bargain.I am making her money !! The alternative is that I sell it at a profit.

Do not forget,I gave her the Expl II

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Old 13 September 2007, 06:22 AM   #6
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I sell it to her at MRSP and she can sell it immediately at a profit OR she can keep it OR she can sell her white Expl II,which I gave her and keep the Daytona,then she is getting a bnib Datona at MRSP minus the value of the Expl II.Now thats a bargain.I am making her money !! The alternative is that I sell it at a profit.

Do not forget,I gave her the Expl II

Drink much????

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Drink much????

Actually,no,I dont drink much.3 Daytonas at MRSP from an AD,within a 5 week period.I would say thats very sober.Try it and see where you get ... My wife is a professional person.If you dont see the logic,she sure will.Its just a question if she wants the white now or want to wait for the next black.
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Actually,no,I dont drink much.3 Daytonas at MRSP from an AD,within a 5 week period.I would say thats very sober.Try it and see where you get ... My wife is a professional person.If you dont see the logic,she sure will.Its just a question if she wants the white now or want to wait for the next black.

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Old 13 September 2007, 08:33 PM   #9
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I sell it to her at MRSP and she can sell it immediately at a profit OR she can keep it OR she can sell her white Expl II,which I gave her and keep the Daytona,then she is getting a bnib Datona at MRSP minus the value of the Expl II.Now thats a bargain.I am making her money !! The alternative is that I sell it at a profit.

Do not forget,I gave her the Expl II


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Old 14 September 2007, 03:52 AM   #10
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I sell it to her at MRSP and she can sell it immediately at a profit OR she can keep it OR she can sell her white Expl II,which I gave her and keep the Daytona,then she is getting a bnib Datona at MRSP minus the value of the Expl II.Now thats a bargain.I am making her money !! The alternative is that I sell it at a profit.

Do not forget,I gave her the Expl II

Now that sir, I understand!

Good plan! PM me if she/ya'll do decide to sell (seeing as how I'm currently on a waiting list for a white SS).
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Old 14 September 2007, 04:22 AM   #11
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Now that sir, I understand!

Good plan! PM me if she/ya'll do decide to sell (seeing as how I'm currently on a waiting list for a white SS).
Your MRSP in the States is $7900.Thats a great price.Our MRSP is in the region of $9300.It will be worth your while to rather wait on one in the States
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Your MRSP in the States is $7900.Thats a great price.Our MRSP is in the region of $9300.It will be worth your while to rather wait on one in the States
Gotcha.... by the way your four letter word from the other post was CASH right?
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She can't flip the ExpyII, it was a present from YOU! It's special!!!
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Old 13 September 2007, 06:47 AM   #14
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She can't flip the ExpyII, it was a present from YOU! It's special!!!
No not really,its easy to find.Its just a normal Rolex.Can always be bought again.A Daytona will REALLY go down well with her.Its a bit more special,for many reasons.She loves the Daytona and have thought of buying one herself.Its her choice a white now or a black later.Simple.
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You noted that you paid MSRP for the Daytonas, but that is was much more than the US MSRP (7,900).

So what (in US $) did you paid approximately?

BTW: I agree. The Black Cos IS the hardest to get and most special even though I would prefer the white one (more legible IMHO).

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Old 13 September 2007, 06:57 AM   #16
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You noted that you paid MSRP for the Daytonas, but that is was much more than the US MSRP (7,900).

So what (in US $) did you paid approximately?

BTW: I agree. The Black Cos IS the hardest to get and most special even though I would prefer the white one (more legible IMHO).

Yes,its more than US MRSP but less than EU and the UK.About $9200.That said,I get huge dicounts on my "normal" Rollies eg SD was $4400 and the Expl II was $4250,yet,its still worth less(slightly) in the used market.The Daytonas are worth more,even at full MRSP,the moment I leave the dealer.Now Bo,you have been around and know that a ss Daytona is the best buy in the Rolex kingdom (.... thats if it can be found )



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Now Bo,you have been around and know that a ss Daytona is the best buy in the Rolex kingdom (.... thats if it can be found )



Yes, I have had 3 Daytonas, too. Also two White Faced and one Black Cos.

But those were the 16520ies "Zenith" mvt. Cal. 4030. Very nice mvt., too, but the in-house is much more refined (and has a hacking feature that the Cal. 4030 didn't).

The MSRP for the 116520 is DKR. 54,600 which equals approx. US $ 9,750.

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Yes, I have had 3 Daytonas, too. Also two White Faced and one Black Cos.

But those were the 16520ies "Zenith" mvt. Cal. 4030. Very nice mvt., too, but the in-house is much more refined (and has a hacking feature that the Cal. 4030 didn't).

The MSRP for the 116520 is DKR. 54,600 which equals approx. US $ 9,750.

Ok,how much do they sell for in the grey market in Denmark ? About $12k ?
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Well I for one can't wait to see how this pans out

No discount for the wifey, hey Chris?

This gets funnier by the minute....
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Yes,its more than US MRSP but less than EU and the UK.About $9200.That said,I get huge dicounts on my "normal" Rollies eg SD was $4400 and the Expl II was $4250,yet,its still worth less(slightly) in the used market.The Daytonas are worth more,even at full MRSP,the moment I leave the dealer.Now Bo,you have been around and know that a ss Daytona is the best buy in the Rolex kingdom (.... thats if it can be found )



Thats more than the UK list price. UK list = just under $8800
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Thanks Doc.


I think you are on to something here. The ADs in the States know they can't get away with selling SS Daytonas to thier loyal customers at over MSRP. So they sell them to the Grey Dealers at an inflated price who in turn sell them again at an even more inflated price.

Then the AD grumbles to us, "Sorry we are lucky if we get two per year."
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Thanks Doc.


I think you are on to something here. The ADs in the States know they can't get away with selling SS Daytonas to thier loyal customers at over MSRP. So they sell them to the Grey Dealers at an inflated price who in turn sell them again at an even more inflated price.

Then the AD grumbles to us, "Sorry we are lucky if we get two per year."
I dont know, I agree and then I dont.... I had a dealer who I was loyal to for years try to sell me a black SS Daytona at like 14,000 bucks! PM me if you need to know who this Central PA dealer is! Since then, I got a white one elsewhere, with just a little wait and some luck. I think there are still good dealers who do the right thing....

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I think you are on to something here. The ADs in the States know they can't get away with selling SS Daytonas to thier loyal customers at over MSRP. So they sell them to the Grey Dealers at an inflated price who in turn sell them again at an even more inflated price.

Then the AD grumbles to us, "Sorry we are lucky if we get two per year."
Just think about what a wonderful cashflow generator the Daytona can be for them.

First,they get more than they claim.Second,say their cost is 60% of the MRSP($7900).That would be around $4740.Now, say they sell it to a grey @ $10-11k.That means they make $5260-6260 profit on EVERY Daytona.Makes one think doesnt it !! Also they dont have to wait,the grey will buy it immediately.Just from a business point of view .. why sell it at $7900 to you when a grey will offer much more ??

Just a theory.
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Just think about what a wonderful cashflow generator the Daytona can be for them.

First,they get more than they claim.Second,say their cost is 60% of the MRSP($7900).That would be around $4740.Now, say they sell it to a grey @ $10-11k.That means they make $5260-6260 profit on EVERY Daytona.Makes one think doesnt it !! Also they dont have to wait,the grey will buy it immediately.Just from a business point of view .. why sell it at $7900 to you when a grey will offer much more ??

Just a theory.

Your 100% Correct. I am just saying I hope this isnt the case. I suppose it is dependant on the dealer. I know of one place doing this, and know another who I think is dealing square. Takes all types!

Have a good one!
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Your 100% Correct. I am just saying I hope this isnt the case. I suppose it is dependant on the dealer. I know of one place doing this, and know another who I think is dealing square. Takes all types!

Have a good one!
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I hope its not so too.Interesting,when I spoke to the AD,yesterday when I picked up the black,he said that he gets calls from all over the world.Obviously they reserve it for the local market.

The ADs I bought the Daytonas from had no "funny clauses" ~ place a deposit first or buy another Rolex,then you may buy a Daytona
or buy $$$ jewellry,then you may buy a Daytona ... etc.etc.
I wouldnt spend $$$ with them if there was that type of BS.
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