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FNFZ4 · 4 May 2012, 06:44 AM

Well its time for another change... I wanted to ask you guys what do you think should replace my daily beater Z4... She has served me well... but it juggles my gels too much....plus, I really dont need two sports cars...

So basically im looking for a much more comfortable car for daily drive. I have 4 offices, Los Angeles, Newport Beach, Chatsworth, Colton. So I do drive alot.

I was always a BMW buyer. I had Mercedez. But never a Lexus.

Here is whats on my list:

Lexus CT200h
Toyota Highlander Hybrid

Maybe:
Mercedes C250 Coupe
BMW 3-series Coupe

texex91 · 4 May 2012, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FNFZ4

Toyota Highlander Hybrid

Think I would scratch that one...certainly compared to your other choices. My .02.

conrail · 4 May 2012, 07:05 AM

Not a fan of Lexus or Toyota, and seeing as you're considering the BMW 3-series - I highly recommend it!! I just bought a used one myself and I have to say, for the money, it is the most fun practical car I've driven. Truly earns its moniker "the ultimate driving machine" (within reason of course).

I also test drove the industry equivalents in the Merc C300 and Audi A4 and found them very uninspiring. Granted those were 2009/2010 model years. A brand new '11 or '12 might be a different experience.

Grissom · 4 May 2012, 07:08 AM

BMW is coming out with a 3 series hybrid (not sure when), but I would look into one of those if I were still driving all over the place!

FNFZ4 · 4 May 2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Think I would scratch that one...certainly compared to your other choices. My .02.

I know its like sticking like a sore thumb

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Originally Posted by conrail

Not a fan of Lexus or Toyota, and seeing as you're considering the BMW 3-series - I highly recommend it!! I just bought a used one myself and I have to say, for the money, it is the most fun practical car I've driven. Truly earns its moniker "the ultimate driving machine" (within reason of course).

I also test drove the industry equivalents in the Merc C300 and Audi A4 and found them very uninspiring. Granted those were 2009/2010 model years. A brand new '11 or '12 might be a different experience.

If I buy another BMW it will be like what... My 5th or 6th? I lost count how many bimmers i had. yeah I think its going to be my 6th...

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Originally Posted by Grissom

BMW is coming out with a 3 series hybrid (not sure when), but I would look into one of those if I were still driving all over the place!

I actually am interested in that one too.

Any one here CT200H owner?

gwalker · 4 May 2012, 07:30 AM

Judging from your driving and the traffic the Lexus is the best choice. Some luxury in a compact hybrid. In CA I'm sure it basically will pay for itself. IMHO BMW 3 series are getting way overpriced for what they are. Their hybrid will prob be $60k... My exstepfather owns a Lexus dealership and that's what my mother drove when I was younger. IMHO they are pretty good cars. I've been in a CT200h but never been on the road in one. I've heard good things as its a great hybrid that gives you more lux than your normal cheap concept.

Dr.Brian · 4 May 2012, 07:36 AM

C350 4 door sedan, if you want a nice practical family car.
Some people like to feel connected to the road. I want to be isolated from the road.
Maybe an E class coming off a lease?

mfer · 4 May 2012, 08:44 AM

5 series for comfort.

s14roller · 4 May 2012, 08:49 AM

Audi and Lexus both feel too soft. I would go 3 or 5 series. I daily an m3 and it's been a blast.

dman · 11 May 2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by s14roller

Audi and Lexus both feel too soft. I would go 3 or 5 series. I daily an m3 and it's been a blast.

I agree. Not on your list but that's what I'd buy...with your money.

GradyPhilpott · 4 May 2012, 10:10 AM

It might not fill your bill, but I'd say buy a decked out Honda Accord.

Hondas may not be particularly prestigious, but mine is 9 years old and when I told the service guy yesterday that I was thinking of coming in later this year for a new one, he looked at me and said, "You don't need a new one."

I've never heard those words in a dealership in all my life.

East Bay Rider · 4 May 2012, 10:17 AM

Doesnt BMW have a new diesel? Since you drive so much maybe that's the way to go.

Darlinboy · 4 May 2012, 10:21 AM

If you're looking at the CT, I recommend driving a VW TDI Sportwagen. Has more storage than an RX, it is much more fun to drive, comfortable, gets 40ish on the highway, and even with every possible option you can get out the door for around US32K.

Went that route myself a couple of months ago vs. another Beemer or Lexus. Of course I've already blown most of the savings on a vintage Rolex and an AP, but I blame that on the TRF enablers.

FNFZ4 · 4 May 2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

C350 4 door sedan, if you want a nice practical family car.
Some people like to feel connected to the road. I want to be isolated from the road.
Maybe an E class coming off a lease?

Bro has the new E. I love the looks but it's still not as comfortable to me. Wierd isn't it? When I sat in the seat of the c and E I was disappointed.

I think Lexus and Cadillac makes the most comfortable seats.

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Originally Posted by mfer

5 series for comfort.

I tried it but it's going to be my 6th BMW. If I'll get another one I might just get the new 6 but I'll go way over budget. I promised myself I won't buy a car more than 40k In 5 years.

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Originally Posted by s14roller

Audi and Lexus both feel too soft. I would go 3 or 5 series. I daily an m3 and it's been a blast.

Had an M3 saved my life. I totaled it.

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

It might not fill your bill, but I'd say buy a decked out Honda Accord.

Hondas may not be particularly prestigious, but mine is 9 years old and when I told the service guy yesterday that I was thinking of coming in later this year for a new one, he looked at me and said, "You don't need a new one."

I've never heard those words in a dealership in all my life.

I have a 2010 Honda insight that the wife uses.

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

Doesnt BMW have a new diesel? Since you drive so much maybe that's the way to go.

I hate diesel

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Originally Posted by Darlinboy

If you're looking at the CT, I recommend driving a VW TDI Sportwagen. Has more storage than an RX, it is much more fun to drive, comfortable, gets 40ish on the highway, and even with every possible option you can get out the door for around US32K.

Went that route myself a couple of months ago vs. another Beemer or Lexus. Of course I've already blown most of the savings on a vintage Rolex and an AP, but I blame that on the TRF enablers.

I won't buy another vw product again after I had a horrible experience with my Audi.

Dr. Robert · 5 May 2012, 02:18 AM

Lexus IS250.

2th Dr · 5 May 2012, 02:45 AM

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Lexus IS250.

There ya go, brother!
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FNFZ4 · 5 May 2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Lexus IS250.

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There ya go, brother!
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I was thinking the same thing... but I am loving the Ct200H and I can get it for like 32k...

Dr. Robert · 5 May 2012, 04:20 PM

Not wild about those newer Lexus hybrids, the CT & HS.....IMHO, not that attractive a design........how about that monster IS F???? Perfect for the L.A. freeways.....& if the Angeles Crest Hwy. is open....that's a fun drive!

gwalker · 6 May 2012, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FNFZ4

I was thinking the same thing... but I am loving the Ct200H and I can get it for like 32k...

Im thinking the CT200h is what you want. I think it fits you best too. IMHO $32k is pretty good.

FNFZ4 · 6 May 2012, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 2th DR

I had a new Z4 once.... It was in the shop more often than I had it. Never again. So I guess sometimes you just get a bad egg.

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Originally Posted by gwalker

Im thinking the CT200h is what you want. I think it fits you best too. IMHO $32k is pretty good.

I am pretty open. I am actually looking at what the two Docs are saying about the IS250...

dimitros · 6 May 2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FNFZ4

I was thinking the same thing... but I am loving the Ct200H and I can get it for like 32k...

What about a 135i? Around 40k and a hoot to drive. Reminiscent of the original 2002. Can probably keep up with the e46 m3s.

77T · 5 May 2012, 02:12 PM

A7 too big? Too much dinero?

FNFZ4 · 5 May 2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 77T

A7 too big? Too much dinero?

I would never buy an Audi I think for as long as I live. My Past Audi... 2008 eats 1Qtr of oil every 3000 Miles and they say its normal. They also changed the transmission 4 times from in 5 months.

kilyung · 5 May 2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FNFZ4

I would never buy an Audi I think for as long as I live. My Past Audi... 2008 eats 1Qtr of oil every 3000 Miles and they say its normal. They also changed the transmission 4 times from in 5 months.

Wow. I haven't had any major issues with my Audis.

FNFZ4 · 6 May 2012, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Wow. I haven't had any major issues with my Audis.

Yeah mike... It was horrible.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Not wild about those newer Lexus hybrids, the CT & HS.....IMHO, not that attractive a design........how about that monster IS F???? Perfect for the L.A. freeways.....& if the Angeles Crest Hwy. is open....that's a fun drive!

Is f would be nice. But if I'm spending that kind of money nothing will beat an M3 doc. I drove that IS F. It's the same as a Cadillac V, and Benz AMG. They are powerfull cars but the M3 is still king.

2th Dr · 6 May 2012, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FNFZ4

I would never buy an Audi I think for as long as I live. My Past Audi... 2008 eats 1Qtr of oil every 3000 Miles and they say its normal. They also changed the transmission 4 times from in 5 months.

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Wow. I haven't had any major issues with my Audis.

I had a new Z4 once.... It was in the shop more often than I had it. Never again. So I guess sometimes you just get a bad egg.

FNFZ4 · 10 May 2012, 02:10 PM

Not a bad Idea.

zeuloa · 10 May 2012, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FNFZ4

Bro has the new E. I love the looks but it's still not as comfortable to me. Wierd isn't it? When I sat in the seat of the c and E I was disappointed.

I think Lexus and Cadillac makes the most comfortable seats.

I tried it but it's going to be my 6th BMW. If I'll get another one I might just get the new 6 but I'll go way over budget. I promised myself I won't buy a car more than 40k In 5 years.

Had an M3 saved my life. I totaled it.

I have a 2010 Honda insight that the wife uses.

I hate diesel

I won't buy another vw product again after I had a horrible experience with my Audi.

Have you driven the new diesels? They are nothing like the old stinky, slow, and noisy ones of the past...

stockae92 · 11 May 2012, 08:28 AM

The new GS350? got pretty good review on the handling

For decent mpg, Infiniti M37 Hybrid gets 32mpg on the freeway but no sports pack

If you like something small and mad, how about mini cooper roadster JCW?

FNFZ4 · 11 May 2012, 09:39 AM

Good advises here. Thats why I love this place.. I may post for sale at other forums but TRF is forever my home....

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