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ejp · 16 July 2012, 10:46 AM

Hi all,

I am new to RTF and was hoping to draw on the groups extensive experience. I have anmold Steinhausen winder which is on it slast legs. i am looking for a dual wonder (possibly with additional watch storage) for my 16610 and soon to be arriving 116520.

My budget would be around 200-250 any guidance would be appreciated.

Many Thanks,
EJP

Darlinboy · 16 July 2012, 11:09 AM

First, welcome to TRF!

I don't bother with a winder. Doesn't take long to reset and wind.

With the two watches you mention, my advice would be to save your coin.

Others love to use them and will have good recommendations I am sure.

NYCrussino · 16 July 2012, 03:09 PM

Amazon has a large selection, I personally purchased the Diplomat Burl Wood. Good for a small collection (like mine)

gwalker · 16 July 2012, 03:28 PM

IMHO unless you have perp calandars are useless wasted of money. You have 2 of the best on ur arms!!!!

FeelingTheBlues · 16 July 2012, 03:33 PM

Welcome to TRF,

I personally couldn't agree more with the idea of using your wrists (yes, even for perpetual calendars!

), watches have been made to be worn everyday and if they stop you'll just need to wind them up again (one of the best parts of owning mechanical timepieces in my humble opinion).

Megalobyte · 16 July 2012, 03:43 PM

Brookstone has a dual and a quad that are fully programmable and very affordable.

sushisummo · 16 July 2012, 04:01 PM

Wolf winder is nice.

R.J. · 17 July 2012, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sushisummo

Wolf winder is nice.

My choice also. Keeps the procedure of changing watches that are pre wound so much smoother.

padi56 · 16 July 2012, 04:29 PM

Without doubt the finest winders in the world today and most have two they are called wrist and what the watch was designed for.

Time2time · 16 July 2012, 06:36 PM

Winders are a must for for multi complication watches if rotated.
Otherwise, I wouldn't bother.

DesertGoon · 16 July 2012, 06:45 PM

i use an eilux winder (similar to this pic) for my watches.

travisb · 16 July 2012, 07:15 PM

Good product,

HL65 · 16 July 2012, 07:19 PM

Wrists to wind and fingers to reset work just fine--save your money.

karmatp · 30 August 2012, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Wrists to wind and fingers to reset work just fine--save your money.

X2 Winders are a huge waste of money. Why add wear and tear when they could be resting. As already stated, if you don't have a multi complicated watch, save your money.

Rockrolex · 30 August 2012, 06:05 AM

Contrary to the naysayers, most prominent of whom are Peter and Ken, I happen to like to keep my watches on winders. I have 2 quad Brookstones (they also make a double and a single) and an Underwood single. All are excellent. The Brookstones are individually programmable for direction and TPD (turns per day) and they are amazingly quiet.

I used to have a couple of quad Steinhausens. There's a reason they are cheap. They are noisy and don't last very long. As for the watch wearing out if you keep it on a winder, my answer is that you will wear out long before your watch will.

jrmca · 30 August 2012, 06:09 AM

I've been told by a reputable dealer in Boston that automatic watches are meant to rest and winders should not be used. He also said that the electric motors in winders can produce magnetic fields which can cause the hairspring to become magnetized causing premature failure and the need for more frequent servicing.

Rockrolex · 30 August 2012, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrmca

I've been told by a reputable dealer in Boston that automatic watches are meant to rest and winders should not be used. He also said that the electric motors in winders can produce magnetic fields which can cause the hairspring to become magnetized causing premature failure and the need for more frequent servicing.

I've kept my watches on winders for over 10 years without any problems. Your dealer was blowing smoke; or was smoking something.

P.S. Welcome to TRF.

Fearsome Puppy · 16 July 2012, 07:23 PM

Not a huge fan of winders, would rather spend the money on watches. But would recommend Wolf Design for reliability at a reasonable cost...

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emurray703 · 17 July 2012, 04:41 AM

I have heard some people say it wears them out sooner. Any truth to that or does having watches on a winder damage them in any way?

Silvio Mosiello · 17 July 2012, 04:44 AM

Your wrist should be pretty good. Inexpensive as well lol

azguy · 17 July 2012, 06:23 AM

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Israguard · 30 August 2012, 03:06 AM

Hi everyone.
New here and actually... my first post was a question about winders. Unfortunately, I haven't a clue where my thread went.

All of the above mentioned winders are great. MY question is... when you buy a winder on amazon for $34.95 and its all plastic and will last 12-24 tops.. quality of construction aside. Can it damage the watch ? ie: magnets in motors etc affecting watch.. This in comparison to winders that cost 20 times more.

Just curious as I need a new Winder for the explorer II I just picked up.
Thanks

Kyu · 30 August 2012, 03:12 AM

Jogging

Ck8 · 30 August 2012, 03:13 AM

Rapport

ColT32 · 30 August 2012, 04:00 AM

I picked up a Modalo winder from Amazon which is around the price range you mentioned. Looks great, has storage for non-automatics and has two winders which both fit two watches.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B002...6262996&sr=8-2

Just need to talk the missus into letting me fill it now!!!!!

Israguard · 30 August 2012, 04:09 AM

Thanks Colt32,

But is there any value to my question ? Regarding the motors/magnets possibly damaging the watch as these are so so cheap.

kilyung · 30 August 2012, 06:13 AM

I only keep watches that are difficult to set on winders such as perpetual calendars. Otherwise, I've never needed one.

atila · 30 August 2012, 11:37 AM

It's a little annoying to see someone inquire about winders and half the replies saying, "You don't need one! Waste of money!" etc.

It's really all personal preference, I happen to hate winding my watch. I'm not alone in this. When I wake up to get ready for work, the last thing I want to do is give my watch 40-50 rotations and then set the time based off my phone or whatever - even if it's a 2 minute job, it's not something I personally want to do. So for people like me, yea, a winder is nice and even necessary.

So, while I respect some of you do not use a winder, simply do not post in the thread. It is a bit childish to continually butt in saying it's not necessary - of course it's not necessary, but if he wants one, he wants one.

And it does not wear out your watch as you can program them to wind for 8 hours a day, or a specific amount of rotations per day, so it allows your watch to rest even if it's on the winder.

DJJon · 30 August 2012, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atila

It's a little annoying to see someone inquire about winders and half the replies saying, "You don't need one! Waste of money!" etc.

It's really all personal preference, I happen to hate winding my watch. I'm not alone in this. When I wake up to get ready for work, the last thing I want to do is give my watch 40-50 rotations and then set the time based off my phone or whatever - even if it's a 2 minute job, it's not something I personally want to do. So for people like me, yea, a winder is nice and even necessary.

So, while I respect some of you do not use a winder, simply do not post in the thread. It is a bit childish to continually butt in saying it's not necessary - of course it's not necessary, but if he wants one, he wants one.

And it does not wear out your watch as you can program them to wind for 8 hours a day, or a specific amount of rotations per day, so it allows your watch to rest even if it's on the winder.

X2 - thank you sir - perfectly stated.

Winders aren't necessary? Neither is your TV remote control - get off the couch and change the channel. It's a convenience thing - how can you 'against it'.? Don't want one, fine. Be against it - strikes me as odd.

Why own an automatic watch in the first place if you tend to let it go dead and then consult another clock to reset it? Get a quartz and go years - now that's convenient.

Oh yeah - 650 TPD, bi-directional - Rolex setting.

SPACE-DWELLER · 30 August 2012, 05:08 PM

I don't care much for watch winders... imho, if you don't have a watch with many complications, there's really no need for a winder. Just wind the watch, set the time (and date if it has a date feature) and you're ready to go...

Wind those watches sitting idle in the safe say once a month just to keep the oils going (and even that is not THAT important anymore since modern synthetic oils don't congeal as quickly and the old mineral ones did)..

Also, imho you often pay way to much for winders that are basically just cheap Chinese mechanism in an expensive box.

16 July 2012, 10:46 AM	#1
ejp "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Watch: 16610 & 116520, Posts: 12	Winder recommendations....? Hi all, I am new to RTF and was hoping to draw on the groups extensive experience. I have anmold Steinhausen winder which is on it slast legs. i am looking for a dual wonder (possibly with additional watch storage) for my 16610 and soon to be arriving 116520. My budget would be around 200-250 any guidance would be appreciated. Many Thanks, EJP

16 July 2012, 11:09 AM	#2
Darlinboy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: DB Location: :noitacoL Watch: :hctaW Posts: 6,703	First, welcome to TRF! I don't bother with a winder. Doesn't take long to reset and wind. With the two watches you mention, my advice would be to save your coin. Others love to use them and will have good recommendations I am sure. __________________ Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.

16 July 2012, 03:33 PM	#5
FeelingTheBlues "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Carl Location: Always moving Watch: If you wish... Posts: 22,039	Welcome to TRF, I personally couldn't agree more with the idea of using your wrists (yes, even for perpetual calendars! ), watches have been made to be worn everyday and if they stop you'll just need to wind them up again (one of the best parts of owning mechanical timepieces in my humble opinion). __________________ Mon corps c'est un pays en guerre sur l'point d'finir, Le général de l'armée de terre s'attend au pire, J'ai faim, j'ai frette, je suis trop faible pour me lever debout, On va hisser le drapeau blanc un point c'est tout. - André Fortin

16 July 2012, 04:01 PM	#7
sushisummo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: JT Location: in a house....:) Watch: Hmmm......? Posts: 1,776	Wolf winder is nice. __________________ Collections: -- R-O-L-E-X --AP-ROO -- P-A-N-E-R-A-I -- B-R-E-G-U-E-T -- I-W-C -- B-A-L-L -- O-T-H-E-R-S WISHLIST: Too many to list...... Member #23367

16 July 2012, 04:29 PM	#9
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,063	Without doubt the finest winders in the world today and most have two they are called wrist and what the watch was designed for. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

16 July 2012, 03:09 PM	#3
NYCrussino "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NYC Watch: 16610 Posts: 214	Amazon has a large selection, I personally purchased the Diplomat Burl Wood. Good for a small collection (like mine)

16 July 2012, 03:28 PM	#4
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	IMHO unless you have perp calandars are useless wasted of money. You have 2 of the best on ur arms!!!!

16 July 2012, 03:43 PM	#6
Megalobyte "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Ari Location: Florida Watch: ...me go broke Posts: 2,428	Brookstone has a dual and a quad that are fully programmable and very affordable.

16 July 2012, 06:36 PM	#10
Time2time Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: U.K Watch: Milgauss GV, Sub-C Posts: 2,178	Winders are a must for for multi complication watches if rotated. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother.

16 July 2012, 06:45 PM	#11
DesertGoon Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Sub date 16610T Posts: 19	i use an eilux winder (similar to this pic) for my watches.

16 July 2012, 07:15 PM	#12
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,493	If you decide to go with a winder I reccomend Wolf Designs. Good product,

16 July 2012, 07:19 PM	#13
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,008	Wrists to wind and fingers to reset work just fine--save your money. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

30 August 2012, 06:05 AM	#15
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 37,967	Contrary to the naysayers, most prominent of whom are Peter and Ken, I happen to like to keep my watches on winders. I have 2 quad Brookstones (they also make a double and a single) and an Underwood single. All are excellent. The Brookstones are individually programmable for direction and TPD (turns per day) and they are amazingly quiet. I used to have a couple of quad Steinhausens. There's a reason they are cheap. They are noisy and don't last very long. As for the watch wearing out if you keep it on a winder, my answer is that you will wear out long before your watch will. __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

30 August 2012, 06:09 AM	#16
jrmca Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Manchester, MA Watch: Datejust 16013 Posts: 25	I've been told by a reputable dealer in Boston that automatic watches are meant to rest and winders should not be used. He also said that the electric motors in winders can produce magnetic fields which can cause the hairspring to become magnetized causing premature failure and the need for more frequent servicing.

16 July 2012, 07:23 PM	#18
Fearsome Puppy "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Kevin Location: Kuala Lumpur Watch: SD4K Posts: 880	Not a huge fan of winders, would rather spend the money on watches. But would recommend Wolf Design for reliability at a reasonable cost... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD __________________ Lange 1815 Chrono, AP ROO 26470ST, RO 26230ST, Rolex 216570 (w), 116600, 116520 (w), IWC XV, PAM 366, 420, Omega 311.30.42.30.01.005, Seiko SKX007J, Apple Watch, a bunch of G-Shocks -------------------------------------------------------------

17 July 2012, 04:41 AM	#19
emurray703 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Eric Location: Nashville Posts: 109	I have heard some people say it wears them out sooner. Any truth to that or does having watches on a winder damage them in any way?

17 July 2012, 04:44 AM	#20
Silvio Mosiello "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Matthew Location: Miami/NY Watch: the shoes. Posts: 3,482	Your wrist should be pretty good. Inexpensive as well lol

17 July 2012, 06:23 AM	#21
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Wolf Design

30 August 2012, 03:06 AM	#22
Israguard "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 859	Hi everyone. New here and actually... my first post was a question about winders. Unfortunately, I haven't a clue where my thread went. All of the above mentioned winders are great. MY question is... when you buy a winder on amazon for $34.95 and its all plastic and will last 12-24 tops.. quality of construction aside. Can it damage the watch ? ie: magnets in motors etc affecting watch.. This in comparison to winders that cost 20 times more. Just curious as I need a new Winder for the explorer II I just picked up. Thanks

30 August 2012, 03:12 AM	#23
Kyu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: yes.. it's Kyu Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex 116759SANR Posts: 1,499	Jogging

30 August 2012, 03:13 AM	#24
Ck8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Mark 哥 Location: UK Posts: 860	Rapport __________________ I like wonton noodles soup - Mark 哥

30 August 2012, 04:00 AM	#25
ColT32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Col Travis Location: Manchester, UK Watch: TTDJ, ΩPO, Posts: 62	I picked up a Modalo winder from Amazon which is around the price range you mentioned. Looks great, has storage for non-automatics and has two winders which both fit two watches. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B002...6262996&sr=8-2 Just need to talk the missus into letting me fill it now!!!!!

30 August 2012, 04:09 AM	#26
Israguard "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 859	Thanks Colt32, But is there any value to my question ? Regarding the motors/magnets possibly damaging the watch as these are so so cheap.

30 August 2012, 06:13 AM	#27
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	I only keep watches that are difficult to set on winders such as perpetual calendars. Otherwise, I've never needed one.

30 August 2012, 11:37 AM	#28
atila "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 49	It's a little annoying to see someone inquire about winders and half the replies saying, "You don't need one! Waste of money!" etc. It's really all personal preference, I happen to hate winding my watch. I'm not alone in this. When I wake up to get ready for work, the last thing I want to do is give my watch 40-50 rotations and then set the time based off my phone or whatever - even if it's a 2 minute job, it's not something I personally want to do. So for people like me, yea, a winder is nice and even necessary. So, while I respect some of you do not use a winder, simply do not post in the thread. It is a bit childish to continually butt in saying it's not necessary - of course it's not necessary, but if he wants one, he wants one. And it does not wear out your watch as you can program them to wind for 8 hours a day, or a specific amount of rotations per day, so it allows your watch to rest even if it's on the winder.

30 August 2012, 05:08 PM	#30
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	I don't care much for watch winders... imho, if you don't have a watch with many complications, there's really no need for a winder. Just wind the watch, set the time (and date if it has a date feature) and you're ready to go... Wind those watches sitting idle in the safe say once a month just to keep the oils going (and even that is not THAT important anymore since modern synthetic oils don't congeal as quickly and the old mineral ones did).. Also, imho you often pay way to much for winders that are basically just cheap Chinese mechanism in an expensive box. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

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