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Old 29 July 2012, 06:15 PM   #1
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Fake Rolex wall clock

We all know this item is a complete fake. I really hate these things. Who would like to help me banish it before some poor dude gets robbed of his/her hard earned cash?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pre-owned...#ht_500wt_1413
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Old 29 July 2012, 06:20 PM   #2
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Ah ha, no cyclops right?
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Old 29 July 2012, 06:27 PM   #3
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Ah ha, no cyclops right?
Sometimes its the most basic thing that gives it away....
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Old 29 July 2012, 06:21 PM   #4
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This one is up to over $577, please help save these people from paying $576 more than the POS is worth.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROLEX-DAY...#ht_500wt_1413
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Old 29 July 2012, 06:30 PM   #5
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This one is up to over $577, please help save these people from paying $576 more than the POS is worth.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROLEX-DAY...#ht_500wt_1413
Is this not a Rolex dealers wall clock?
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Old 29 July 2012, 06:33 PM   #6
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Is this not a Rolex dealers wall clock?
As fake as the first one.
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Old 29 July 2012, 06:37 PM   #7
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As fake as the first one.
Damn, it looked ok to me.

I reported them both earlier.
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Old 29 July 2012, 06:39 PM   #8
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Damn, it looked ok to me.

I reported them both earlier.
To me the movement gave it away, didn't look anything like a Rolex.
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Old 29 July 2012, 06:46 PM   #9
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Old 30 July 2012, 11:37 AM   #10
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Old 30 July 2012, 03:54 PM   #11
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This one is still up and its at $770 now.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ROLEX-DAY...#ht_500wt_1413
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Old 30 July 2012, 03:55 PM   #12
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Disregard, its gone.
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Old 30 July 2012, 10:25 PM   #13
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I trust there are genuine clocks out there, are there not? I bought one 5-6 years ago on Ebay. Now I will have to check it out further when I I get to my office.
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Old 2 August 2012, 09:16 PM   #14
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Here is another one...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/rolex-dea...#ht_500wt_1414

Please help get rid of it, $148 is rather steep
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Old 2 August 2012, 11:02 PM   #15
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Old 3 August 2012, 12:36 AM   #16
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People don;t think these are real, do they?

I just assumed they would be OK for someone looking for a novility in there game room or office....

I know it's a trademark infringment, but that's Rolex problem, not ours...
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Old 3 August 2012, 06:42 AM   #17
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People don;t think these are real, do they?

I just assumed they would be OK for someone looking for a novility in there game room or office....

I know it's a trademark infringment, but that's Rolex problem, not ours...
Would you pay $700 for a cheap rip off Chinese wall clock, if not than its not fair on the bidders especially if they don't realise its fake. Judging by the price that some of these reach I would bet that a lot of people think the clocks are real. Also if the people that sell these start making a killing then they may just try their luck at flogging some fake watches. This in turn contributes to the integrity problem of not just Rolex items but fakes in general. I can understand where your coming from and I would have agreed with you not to long ago but I almost bought one of these for $550. This site saved me and I think if people knew these were fake their marginal value would most likely meet their marginal cost at around $10.
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Old 3 August 2012, 07:46 AM   #18
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People don;t think these are real, do they?

I just assumed they would be OK for someone looking for a novility in there game room or office....

I know it's a trademark infringment, but that's Rolex problem, not ours...
Google search Rolex clock, you can buy one of these fake clocks for 150. The sites specify they are not authentic.
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Old 3 August 2012, 04:59 PM   #19
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People don;t think these are real, do they?

I just assumed they would be OK for someone looking for a novility in there game room or office....

I know it's a trademark infringment, but that's Rolex problem, not ours...
I know someone who paid over US$ 800,-- for this kind of crap (and then he asked me if it's genuine).
Most of these come from Canada - and they are good in pushing bids with other accounts into these heights (shill bidding).

And it seems, if you cut off one head, there are 5 more coming up.
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People don;t think these are real, do they?

I just assumed they would be OK for someone looking for a novility in there game room or office....

I know it's a trademark infringment, but that's Rolex problem, not ours...
I don't think they are knowingly paying $500 on up for counterfeit Rolex wall clocks. I'm sure they all think they are real.
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Old 3 August 2012, 08:02 AM   #21
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Old 4 August 2012, 01:16 PM   #22
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re: rolex wall clocks. as former rolex usa advertising and promotion manager from 1966-1970, i can only speak to this subject for that period, although i imagine geneva's policy was continued for some time thereafter. rolex geneva distributed promotional items for various purposes; some as "gifts" to authorized jewelers (note jewelers, not dealers at that time), some for exclusive display in authorized jewelers retail stores (eg, countertop mirrors, wall clocks, shadow box displays, etc). the former were sometimes given to jewelers at discretion of the territorial salesman. the latter were purchased by the jeweler either from co-op advertising funds or out of pocket. the gift items were impressive, made of luxury materials for, not by, rolex geneva.
under andre heiniger, rolex carried the banner of excellence in whatever bore the crown and letters. this was in the rolex dna. i still have some of the items from those days and their quality is unmistakeable. one item is a soft leather tobacco pouch made for geneva by dunhill of london, in black with a crown stamped in a corner. running out of space now. hope this helps clear up the question raised by "yakmeister".
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Old 4 August 2012, 11:03 PM   #23
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re: rolex wall clocks. as former rolex usa advertising and promotion manager from 1966-1970, i can only speak to this subject for that period, although i imagine geneva's policy was continued for some time thereafter. rolex geneva distributed promotional items for various purposes; some as "gifts" to authorized jewelers (note jewelers, not dealers at that time), some for exclusive display in authorized jewelers retail stores (eg, countertop mirrors, wall clocks, shadow box displays, etc). the former were sometimes given to jewelers at discretion of the territorial salesman. the latter were purchased by the jeweler either from co-op advertising funds or out of pocket. the gift items were impressive, made of luxury materials for, not by, rolex geneva.
under andre heiniger, rolex carried the banner of excellence in whatever bore the crown and letters. this was in the rolex dna. i still have some of the items from those days and their quality is unmistakeable. one item is a soft leather tobacco pouch made for geneva by dunhill of london, in black with a crown stamped in a corner. running out of space now. hope this helps clear up the question raised by "yakmeister".
hi some pics of your items posted out on the general forum would be very interesting to see.
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there have been several of these offered on ebay from in / around the Lincolnshire area of the UK, different user names but all on zero or very low feedback so more than likely the same seller
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Old 5 August 2012, 12:21 AM   #25
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hi johny, i haven't yet figured out how to attach photo files to a post or thread. my photos are in picasa. the "insert image" above asks for the url. i need more detail than that. i'll keep on it til i get it.
thanks for your request.
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hi johny, i haven't yet figured out how to attach photo files to a post or thread. my photos are in picasa. the "insert image" above asks for the url. i need more detail than that. i'll keep on it til i get it.
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Garpesce, I am not very literate when it comes to computers. It took me a while to post pics, but if you keep at it, you will eventually get it. Would love to see your Rolex items. Welcome to the Forum.
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attaching photos

unable to determine precise url for one or two photos in a file which has many unrelated photos. still working on it. thanks for encouragement.
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hi johny, i haven't yet figured out how to attach photo files to a post or thread. my photos are in picasa. the "insert image" above asks for the url. i need more detail than that. i'll keep on it til i get it.
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no rush. we love pics on here. the clock looks great.
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Old 8 August 2012, 03:49 AM   #29
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fake rolex wall clock

hi "ausneal" the "ebay" clock you refer to may be authentic. see the attached photo of a description of 4 available clocks for rolex jewelers in the usa. the source is "the rolex co-op advertising mat book" which i produced that year. the "G-061" is an 18" square electrically powered wall clock in a walnut finsh. the "ebay photos" are poor quality, but i can see enough to recognize the look..question remains...is it genuine rolex or a knockoff. if the latter, seems a lot of trouble for not much money. but who can say what idle hands in a third world country would consider "not much money"? the G-061 was very popular with jewelers because it didn't clash with the store decor. the "Pan Am " G-062 with or w/o PanAm logo was more institutional.
the "section" model was pure rolex modern.
although i am in touch with a former service manager, i have not kept current on rolex matters since i left in 1970. the rolex geneva of the '60s kept stringent control over product distribution and related marketing materials. that was very doable with only about 2,300 authorized jewelers (in the usa) at the time. worldwide network also very limited at that time. low "OP" production created an enormous backlog, more than 6 months for men's DDs, GMTs, SUBs DJs, EXPs, DCs, all metals. ladies "OP"s also.
it may be absurd to say, but that same obssession with protecting the brand, reputation and product integrity might only be achieved today if, say they installed a gps microchip (size of a flea's naval") in each watch so they could track it's wherabouts thru the pipeline to the end user.
in the end, the "ebay" clock just might be a nice conversation piece for a den,
or clubroom. value? who's to say?
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re: rolex wall clocks. as former rolex usa advertising and promotion manager from 1966-1970, i can only speak to this subject for that period, although i imagine geneva's policy was continued for some time thereafter. rolex geneva distributed promotional items for various purposes; some as "gifts" to authorized jewelers (note jewelers, not dealers at that time), some for exclusive display in authorized jewelers retail stores (eg, countertop mirrors, wall clocks, shadow box displays, etc). the former were sometimes given to jewelers at discretion of the territorial salesman. the latter were purchased by the jeweler either from co-op advertising funds or out of pocket. the gift items were impressive, made of luxury materials for, not by, rolex geneva.
under andre heiniger, rolex carried the banner of excellence in whatever bore the crown and letters. this was in the rolex dna. i still have some of the items from those days and their quality is unmistakeable. one item is a soft leather tobacco pouch made for geneva by dunhill of london, in black with a crown stamped in a corner. running out of space now. hope this helps clear up the question raised by "yakmeister".

We all know that rolex made lots of items from paper weights to pens, knives, tobacco pouches, keyrings etc. many of us have been. Rolex official clocks never took this form to our knowledge, they were square with white dial and the classic green Rolex and coronet gold hands , no second hand , not sports models with second hands like these cheap fakes as you state their quality is not remarkable. Please note I refer to walk clicks only there are other desk top clocks I have not mentioned.
The other form is round with a gold fluted beze surrounding the clock face, gold hands no second hand and white face again with green Rolex writing and coronet they are fairly plain. If you have seen others please show us and enlighten us we always love to learn more regards.

Save the photos to your desktop and then just upload them directly to the forum, can't wait thanks.
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