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Old 30 July 2012, 01:32 PM   #1
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Other brands hold value?

So what other brand of watch other then Rolex holds their value?
Every Rolex I have owned I have either got all my money out of or made money. No other watch has been that generous to me.

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Old 30 July 2012, 01:45 PM   #2
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Depends on what price You buy at like all things

I've broken even or made a small amount on all Rolex

Every brietling I've had has made me a very, very generous return.
All relative

In terms of msrp though they lose not that much maybe 20-25%? They do very well.

Resale is stronger in Rolex but there are a lot on market at any time so could take a bit to sell.
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Old 30 July 2012, 04:22 PM   #3
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Old 30 July 2012, 05:21 PM   #4
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Never heard of a J.Alan watch?
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Old 30 July 2012, 05:26 PM   #5
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Old 30 July 2012, 05:36 PM   #6
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Old 30 July 2012, 04:34 PM   #7
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You can bank on Rolex because frankly its a "Rolex", but almost any Swiss made watch will either hold their value or make you some money. If you want to talk numbers, any -high end- Swiss made "Complicated" time piece is a sure bet.
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Old 30 July 2012, 08:14 PM   #8
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You can bank on Rolex because frankly its a "Rolex", but almost any Swiss made watch will either hold their value or make you some money. If you want to talk numbers, any -high end- Swiss made "Complicated" time piece is a sure bet.
This is just plain wrong.
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Old 31 July 2012, 11:11 PM   #9
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You can bank on Rolex because frankly its a "Rolex", but almost any Swiss made watch will either hold their value or make you some money. If you want to talk numbers, any -high end- Swiss made "Complicated" time piece is a sure bet.
With few exceptions (Rolex and maybe PP) the high end watches take a pounding at resale. If you pay MSRP, expect a substantial depreciation as you walk out the door. The exception that someone is going to mention will be when you pay a discounted price, which rarely happens with Rolex.

As to complicated watches (spelled even more expensive, usually), there is an even smaller market for these, so resale can be very spotty/inconsistent.
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Old 30 July 2012, 05:17 PM   #10
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So what other brand of watch other then Rolex holds their value?
Every Rolex I have owned I have either got all my money out of or made money. No other watch has been that generous to me.

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Rolex watches and a few others like Patek have always held there prices well in the market place.But Rolex watch are not all about £££££££$$$$$$$ its about owning and wearing one of the finest mechanical watches made today.
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Old 30 July 2012, 06:52 PM   #11
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Rolex watches and a few others like Patek have always held there prices well in the market place.But Rolex watch are not all about £££££££$$$$$$$ its about owning and wearing one of the finest mechanical watches made today.
Didn't you mean 'not' about $$$'s Peter?


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Old 30 July 2012, 05:29 PM   #12
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Other than Rolex, some Omega models also hold value like the Speedmaster Pro Limited Editions. I've been meaning to land a meteorite sub-dialled Speedy Pro. I hear that model holds value.
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Old 30 July 2012, 08:20 PM   #13
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Other than Rolex, some Omega models also hold value like the Speedmaster Pro Limited Editions. I've been meaning to land a meteorite sub-dialled Speedy Pro. I hear that model holds value.
I'm seeing the 2254.50's on the used market for $3-500 more than I paid from my AD new.
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Old 30 July 2012, 07:20 PM   #14
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I agree on the Omega Speedmaster line.
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Old 30 July 2012, 07:26 PM   #15
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Some Panerai models hold their value well - the Luminor Base and Marina models in particular


Basically, any popular steel Swiss watch that is not produced in vast quantities (or is but the manufacturer/dealers won't admit it) and not deeply discounted will resell pretty well (YMMV)
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Old 31 July 2012, 04:31 PM   #16
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This is just plain wrong.
Your reading to much into my statement my friend. I'm not talking about a 10k Rolex, I'm referring to complicated watches that cost 100k plus in regards to a high investment standpoint. That most likely will only go up in value.
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Panerai can be good, but you have to choose the right model.
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Old 1 August 2012, 09:41 AM   #18
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Panerai can be good, but you have to choose the right model.

...used to be the case.
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Old 1 August 2012, 09:53 AM   #19
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Old 2 August 2012, 11:25 PM   #20
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Who pays retail?
I do, on occasion. I'm sure others here do as well. If you want a particularly desirable and hard to find piece, or one which is a boutique only edition, then, if you want it, often you will have to pay retail for it. Nothing wrong with that.

Big savings on other pieces will balance it all out.
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Everything depends on what you pay and that includes Rolex. Pay retail on any watch and you are out big. Only exception is certain Pateks and AP LE's--other than know your watches and entry points. Buy right and buy smart!
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Old 3 August 2012, 02:17 PM   #23
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Everything depends on what you pay and that includes Rolex. Pay retail on any watch and you are out big. Only exception is certain Pateks and AP LE's--other than know your watches and entry points. Buy right and buy smart!
Exactly. There are several Rolex models that don't do great used. It's all about buying right. Do this and you will most likely be good. APs IWCs and Omegas can generally be purchased with enough discount to make them smart purchases.
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Most watches bought new you will lose money on. sometimes if held a long time you will make money but not always. Rolex if bought with a discount or used will maintain or increase in value. Depends on the model too.
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What about Zenith? Would it be better to purchase preowned?
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from my personal experience I'd bet on the following,

Limited edition Panerai's
Rolex
Audemars Piguet
IWC (Pilots and Portugues)
Patek philippe
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Good list Spunky, and I agree. I have found the more common Panerais are not holding up too well if bought new. My 232 is the only one that has done well so far.
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from my personal experience I'd bet on the following,

Limited edition Panerai's
Rolex
Audemars Piguet
IWC (Pilots and Portugues)
Patek philippe
AP ??? Offshore are -50% they minute you walk out the store, -40% for the royal oak
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I would say most brands will go -40 to - 50 % the day after you bought them

Rolex sportsmodels and Panerai go - 35% (in both cases only steel)

Patek, only chronographs and steel Nautilusses will keep good value ( barely - 20%). Calatrava,annual and perpetual calendars also - 30 %
Also the super complications like 5207 - 3939 - etc but these are so expensive we better forget them :-)


Exceptions that go ABOVE list

Panerai - limted edtitions if historic correct so forget about gold cases , chrono's, and other complications
but think about the 127 - 217 - 232 - 249 - 339 - 382 - 390 - 448 - 449 - 360 - 21 - 230 and a few others

Patek all the lemania based chrongraphs but these are discontinued.
Limited editions like the advanced research series, boutique edtions, ... and ofcourse vintage pieces

Rolex ... nothing. It used to be the 16520 and 116520 but they ended in 2008.

AP SOME limited editions but also here this seems to be a thing of the past. Since they charge euro 30 tot 35K for a LE offshore people are not insane enough to give a premium anymore

Zenith ... here is a bet I want to take. The new Montre d'aéronef TYPE 20.
This wil be the first Zenith which sells good above listprice (again only the titanium) - this is my personal opinion but after 20 years collecting I think I know what I'm talking about
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AP ??? Offshore are -50% they minute you walk out the store, -40% for the royal oak
Offshore's arent 50% off, they tend to hover at 35-40 range. I just bought and sold a Panda at 17k a few months old. And the new releases hover in this area.
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