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Ultrarunner7 · 29 August 2012, 08:41 AM

I have a Submariner and it has an extra red hand similar to my explorer 2. Can someone tell me what year it is as well as it's use?! I've googled and googled and can't even find a pic. Thanks!

nick c · 29 August 2012, 08:43 AM

welcome, is it the 1680?

Ultrarunner7 · 29 August 2012, 08:46 AM

It's exactly like the 24hr hand on the exp 2 or GMT. To help, it has case holes... The "submariner" text is written in white, not red.

When I google this, none with this extra hand come up.

AmbSteve · 29 August 2012, 08:54 AM

Do you have a pic you can upload so we can check it out?

MoBe · 29 August 2012, 08:57 AM

It sounds like what you have is an "anomaly".

Can you post a picture?

Ultrarunner7 · 29 August 2012, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoBe

It sounds like what you have is an "anomaly".

Can you post a picture?

77T · 29 August 2012, 09:19 AM

A pic will help clear it up!

Are you sure it's a Rolex Sub and not another make?

Ticking Away · 29 August 2012, 10:06 AM

Interesting! I haven't seen that combination before.

Does the 24 hour hand actually function?

Ultrarunner7 · 29 August 2012, 10:11 AM

Yeah, it does!

sleddog · 29 August 2012, 10:17 AM

Hard to tell from the one picture, but it's either a franken watch, or a complete fake!!!

A Rolex Submariner does not come with a 24 hour hand.....
Moved into the watchout section!

Ultrarunner7 · 29 August 2012, 10:22 AM

It's real bro. This I know. I just want some info on it.

Ultrarunner7 · 29 August 2012, 10:27 AM

The watch was given to me as a gift from an extremely wealthy friend who owns hundreds of watches. There is absolutely no way this individual owns anything fake.

sleddog · 29 August 2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultrarunner7

It's real bro. This I know. I just want some info on it.

I just gave you some info....
It's either a GMT swapped out with a Submariner dail (franken watch), or it's a fake!!
The Submariner does not come fitted with a 24 hour hand from factory!

The one picture you've posted is not conclusive either way, but one of the scenarios I've posted is correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner7

The watch was given to me as a gift from an extremely wealthy friend who owns hundreds of watches. There is absolutely no way this individual owns anything fake.

Then ask him why it's not a factory spec watch!

crowncollection · 29 August 2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sleddog

I just gave you some info....
It's either a GMT swapped out with a Submariner dail (franken watch), or it's a fake!!
The Submariner does not come fitted with a 24 hour hand from factory!

The one picture you've posted is not conclusive either way, but one of the scenarios I've posted is correct.

X 2 what Rob said above

Rob , that dial is not an original submariner dial, either it is a low quality respray or a complete fake, pretty shiny rehaut also it would appear as it has glared your photo, i do not know of anyone who would ask for such a modification, no self respecting watchmaker would even do this to a watch if you asked, if your friend has so many watches and is wealthy why would he not have a unaltered GMT if he wants one, and a submariner if he wants one ? rather than this crossbreed. I would be embarrassed to wear such a watch as anyone who knows anything about watches is going to say it's a fake, if indeed you believe the watch is real spend some money and change it back to what it was, buy a GMT dial and change the bezel insert to an authentic gmt insert

Mickey® · 29 August 2012, 10:34 AM

Everything looks 100% fake to me.
Dial, Hands, Hour Markers, Bezel, Date Magnification and/or Date wheel or both.

LOVE TO SEE THE INSIDE!

wantonebad · 29 August 2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultrarunner7

It's real bro. This I know. I just want some info on it.

It very well may be partly real but that GMT hand does not belong there, so Rob is 1000% right with his assesment. It was not an off the cuff remark, there the only two possibilities I'm afraid.

Mickey® · 29 August 2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wantonebad

It very well may be real but that GMT hand does not belong there, so Rob is 1000% right with his assesment. It was not an off the cuff remark, there the only two possibilities I'm afraid.

What about Dial, Hands, Hour Markers, Bezel, Date Magnification and/or Date wheel or both, font and...

wantonebad · 29 August 2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey®

What about Dial, Hands, Hour Markers, Bezel, Date Magnification and/or Date wheel or both, font and...

I just meant the movement, I added "partly" to my post

Mickey® · 29 August 2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wantonebad

I just meant the movement, I added "partly" to my post

LOL. I'm on your side. No worries!

Vetteman · 29 August 2012, 10:39 AM

Pointy "A"....

AmbSteve · 29 August 2012, 11:04 AM

TC, the reason you cannot find a picture of this one out there is because someone has added this GMT hand, etc themselves and is not something that would have come from Rolex...aka a franken watch. Does your friend do this to his other watches? Have you asked him about this one first? What did he say?

MoBe · 29 August 2012, 12:02 PM

The picture is not of a watch made by Rolex,it could be anything.

Ultrarunner7 · 29 August 2012, 12:45 PM

Hello everyone! Thanks for the overwhelming responses! I took it to someone reputable and he took it apart. It's a GMT with a Sub dial and Bezel(frankenwatch!). I'm gonna kick his ass! Nah. I'm not.... I'm going to get a GMT dial and bezel and change it back myself. Thanks fellas!

mrbill2mrbill2 · 30 August 2012, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner7

Hello everyone! Thanks for the overwhelming responses! I took it to someone reputable and he took it apart. It's a GMT with a Sub dial and Bezel(frankenwatch!). I'm gonna kick his ass! Nah. I'm not.... I'm going to get a GMT dial and bezel and change it back myself. Thanks fellas!

Good plan - back to original.

MoBe · 30 August 2012, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner7

Hello everyone! Thanks for the overwhelming responses! I took it to someone reputable and he took it apart. It's a GMT with a Sub dial and Bezel(frankenwatch!). I'm gonna kick his ass! Nah. I'm not.... I'm going to get a GMT dial and bezel and change it back myself. Thanks fellas!

I wonder what kind of business would be able to take apart your watch so quickly and so late in the evening.

Does this "someone reputable" operate a regular watch repair service?

mrbill2mrbill2 · 30 August 2012, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoBe

I wonder what kind of business would be able to take apart your watch so quickly and so late in the evening.

Does this "someone reputable" operate a regular watch repair service?

Excellent point.

8:22 - it's real bro

8:27 - from a wealthy friend - no way it's fake

10:45 - took it to a reputable shop - it's franken - going to fix.

Sounds like BS to me - if you look at the time of the posts.

crowncollection · 30 August 2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

Excellent point.

8:22 - it's real bro

8:27 - from a wealthy friend - no way it's fake

10:45 - took it to a reputable shop - it's franken - going to fix.

Sounds like BS to me - if you look at the time of the posts.

Good detective work, I to think its fake really

ROGERWILCO357 · 29 August 2012, 02:10 PM

sounds like a plan put a black bezel on it with correct dial will look awesome heck change the red to green and change the date wheel to green make it unique..

mbuckley · 29 August 2012, 03:08 PM

Man i am always so impressed with the knowledge of the folks on the forum.

Ultrarunner7 · 29 August 2012, 09:07 PM

I'm trying to find a good place to buy these parts. Recommendations?

29 August 2012, 08:41 AM	#1
Ultrarunner7 Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: G Posts: 9	Submariner question! I have a Submariner and it has an extra red hand similar to my explorer 2. Can someone tell me what year it is as well as it's use?! I've googled and googled and can't even find a pic. Thanks!

29 August 2012, 08:54 AM	#4
AmbSteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: San Angelo, TX Watch: Rlx,Omega,JLC,Breg Posts: 1,699	Do you have a pic you can upload so we can check it out? __________________

29 August 2012, 09:19 AM	#7
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,013	A pic will help clear it up! Are you sure it's a Rolex Sub and not another make? __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

29 August 2012, 10:17 AM	#10
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	Hard to tell from the one picture, but it's either a franken watch, or a complete fake!!! A Rolex Submariner does not come with a 24 hour hand..... Moved into the watchout section! __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

29 August 2012, 10:39 AM	#20
Vetteman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NC Watch: 16610 Posts: 420	Pointy "A".... __________________ His 16610 E serial Her's 178240 Z Serial Salmon Dial Roman Markers 178344 Random Serial MOP Dial Diamond 6/Bezel 114210 M Serial Blue 3-6-9 Sticks 115200/210 M Serial Black / White Dial Stick Markers

29 August 2012, 08:43 AM	#2
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	welcome, is it the 1680?

29 August 2012, 08:46 AM	#3
Ultrarunner7 Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: G Posts: 9	It's exactly like the 24hr hand on the exp 2 or GMT. To help, it has case holes... The "submariner" text is written in white, not red. When I google this, none with this extra hand come up.

29 August 2012, 08:57 AM	#5
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	It sounds like what you have is an "anomaly". Can you post a picture?

29 August 2012, 10:06 AM	#8
Ticking Away "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 272	Interesting! I haven't seen that combination before. Does the 24 hour hand actually function?

29 August 2012, 10:11 AM	#9
Ultrarunner7 Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: G Posts: 9	Yeah, it does!

29 August 2012, 10:22 AM	#11
Ultrarunner7 Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: G Posts: 9	It's real bro. This I know. I just want some info on it.

29 August 2012, 10:27 AM	#12
Ultrarunner7 Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: G Posts: 9	The watch was given to me as a gift from an extremely wealthy friend who owns hundreds of watches. There is absolutely no way this individual owns anything fake.

29 August 2012, 10:34 AM	#15
Mickey® Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mickey® Location: Atlanta, GA Watch: Swiss Made Posts: 5,801	Everything looks 100% fake to me. Dial, Hands, Hour Markers, Bezel, Date Magnification and/or Date wheel or both. LOVE TO SEE THE INSIDE!

29 August 2012, 11:04 AM	#21
AmbSteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: San Angelo, TX Watch: Rlx,Omega,JLC,Breg Posts: 1,699	TC, the reason you cannot find a picture of this one out there is because someone has added this GMT hand, etc themselves and is not something that would have come from Rolex...aka a franken watch. Does your friend do this to his other watches? Have you asked him about this one first? What did he say? __________________

29 August 2012, 12:02 PM	#22
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	The picture is not of a watch made by Rolex,it could be anything.

29 August 2012, 12:45 PM	#23
Ultrarunner7 Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: G Posts: 9	Hello everyone! Thanks for the overwhelming responses! I took it to someone reputable and he took it apart. It's a GMT with a Sub dial and Bezel(frankenwatch!). I'm gonna kick his ass! Nah. I'm not.... I'm going to get a GMT dial and bezel and change it back myself. Thanks fellas!

29 August 2012, 02:10 PM	#28
ROGERWILCO357 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Michigan Watch: Submariner LV Posts: 580	sounds like a plan put a black bezel on it with correct dial will look awesome heck change the red to green and change the date wheel to green make it unique..

29 August 2012, 03:08 PM	#29
mbuckley "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Norman, Oklahoma Watch: Exp II Posts: 616	Man i am always so impressed with the knowledge of the folks on the forum.

29 August 2012, 09:07 PM	#30
Ultrarunner7 Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: G Posts: 9	I'm trying to find a good place to buy these parts. Recommendations? Last edited by Ultrarunner7; 29 August 2012 at 09:07 PM.. Reason: Spelling

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