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Tango1 · 30 August 2012, 11:06 AM

I don't see Rolex offering a black watch. Do the watches from Bamford & Sons hold their value? I really like the blacked out look.

The link is here...

http://professionalwatches.com/2008/...omized_by.html

What would be a good price on only like this ?

[img]http://professionalwatches.com/rolex-submariner-black-thumb-450x331.jpg[img]

wokafu · 30 August 2012, 11:17 AM

personally i like it..but whatever the price is offering from them is not going to be cheap..

superdog · 30 August 2012, 12:04 PM

Love em blacked out. But as a flipper, can't do it. I'll lose too much on resale. But I really do love em.

Mickey® · 30 August 2012, 12:06 PM

If I had LOTS of money to "waste" I'd buy two!

Tools · 30 August 2012, 01:04 PM

Bamford & Sons is a UK based clothiers who started customizing Rolex watches a decade ago with PVD coatings..

They then charge 2 to 3 times the MSRP (the Daytona is over 30k for example).

I think it unlikely that a PVD paintjob at this price-point will retain it's value over time..

JV588 · 4 September 2012, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

They then charge 2 to 3 times the MSRP (the Daytona is over 30k for example).

No thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

I think it unlikely that a PVD paintjob at this price-point will retain it's value over time..

Agree

Ck8 · 8 November 2012, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Bamford & Sons is a UK based clothiers who started customizing Rolex watches a decade ago with PVD coatings..

They then charge 2 to 3 times the MSRP (the Daytona is over 30k for example).

I think it unlikely that a PVD paintjob at this price-point will retain it's value over time..

Value for money is one thing but how well is PVD hold up to scratches and dings. Last thing is paying so much more for the watch and the SS shows through the coating. I rather have a battered worn look of the SS than SS showing through the black colour.

Does any one have pictures of what PVD watch would look like after normal wear?

Kyu · 30 August 2012, 02:25 PM

makes me wanna get a sub just for this

There is a group in NY that does really good PVD coating,
I like their AP PVD coatings, looks really nice

mrexplorer · 4 September 2012, 12:33 AM

I had a really good experience using these guys. Very helpful and reasonable.

www.titanblack.co.uk

I am not the only one seemingly:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=241301

z32turbo · 4 September 2012, 12:51 AM

i like the way it looks but wouldn't justify the extra $$$.

padi56 · 4 September 2012, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango1

I don't see Rolex offering a black watch. Do the watches from Bamford & Sons hold their value? I really like the blacked out look.

The link is here...

http://professionalwatches.com/2008/...omized_by.html

What would be a good price on only like this ?

[img]http://professionalwatches.com/rolex-submariner-black-thumb-450x331.jpg[img]

I would doubt it and they will have a very limited market if you ever wanted to sell, plus Rolex themselves would not ever service the watch.

DCgator · 4 September 2012, 01:13 AM

It's simply an individual preference. DLC/PVD coating gives a Rolex watch an entirely different angle and style.

joe100 · 4 September 2012, 01:38 AM

Not a fan of black watches. They look like hell after just one scratch

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karmatp · 4 September 2012, 02:49 AM

If you want a watch with PVD coating, why not buy a watch from a brand that offers them? I think it is flat out silly to pvd or dlc a Rolex.

Steelgold · 4 September 2012, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karmatp

If you want a watch with PVD coating, why not buy a watch from a brand that offers them? I think it is flat out silly to pvd or dlc a Rolex.

You make a very good point, I agree.

katana · 4 September 2012, 04:04 AM

I would NOT have it for free if I have to wear it every day. As padi56 said, ROLEX will be thrilled when they see it......

Paradis

DolphinV8 · 4 September 2012, 04:41 AM

I would imagine it's like selling a modified car. Unless you can find a buy who is truly in love with it, you are likely getting a hit.

vintagewaferthin · 4 September 2012, 09:15 AM

The resale of these pvd rolexs is almost non existent. As said before the market is very limited as to who would want these watches making resale very hard. I personally wouldn't buy one ( I am bit of a Rolex purist), but if you want one buy one just for fun to keep, but don't buy one with the hopes of reselling it.

gwozhog · 4 September 2012, 09:24 AM

I know a guy who bought a murdered out DSSD. It is not scratch proof and you can see scratches that look SS. IMHO it looks like garbage after a few years.

jolimont · 4 September 2012, 09:55 AM

Poor investment and resale value, and PVD watches are usually overpriced, they sell basically because they are "unique"

Fernandohk · 4 September 2012, 01:10 PM

I don't see the point & for silly money at that. Tried to talk a friend out of getting one but he was adamant and ordered a blacked out GMT2C without the bracelet but with a handful of Natos thrown in. Different strokes I suppose.

dbphotos · 4 September 2012, 02:29 PM

Here's your photo link. You forgot the / at the end.

dbphotos · 4 September 2012, 02:31 PM

I like the look but due to the price and the likely inability to resell at a reasonable price down the road, I would go for something like a Steinhart in PVD. A lot less invested for the same look and who cares about what it would resell for.

TSW · 4 September 2012, 02:52 PM

Each to their own.

NYCrussino · 4 September 2012, 03:43 PM

I love DLC finishes on rolexes, but I couldn't see a DLC holding its value compared to a normal rolex

Speed · 4 September 2012, 03:57 PM

Oh boy.

The weekly PVD thread ;-)

Well...I think PVDd Rolex watches look like Doo Doo.

These are truly for the guy with too much money. When I think of all the watches I would rather buy than a butchered classic Rolex.

Dr. Robert · 4 September 2012, 05:11 PM

I dig them............but alas I will never have one....my ex-wives took all my money.

I see a SS watch & I want it painted black.
No SS anymore I want them to turn black.
I see a line of watches & they're all painted black.
(apologies to Mick & Keith)

calbee673 · 4 September 2012, 06:55 PM

That black Sub looks bloody sensational! Very stealth-like...not sure I would buy one unless I can determine whether the craftsmanship and integrity of the original watch has been compromised or not.

Michael N Q8 · 4 September 2012, 07:19 PM

I previously understood that one could only buy DLC watches "brand new" i.e. Bamford get them new, coat them and sell them. There is however a service in LA that will service your watch and they will DLC it as well, at a cost of course. They quoted 3-5 weeks turnaround.

Have a look at the DLC/PVD video on their site.

I am thinking about doing my 14060m like this.

http://www.timeandgems.com/dlc-pvd-watches

gregdolley · 4 September 2012, 07:28 PM

I don't think they hold their value at all. Rolexes that are heavily modified like this typically lose their value in the general market. However, there are a small group of people that absolutely love these mods and will pay top dollar for them. So, in the end, it really depends who you sell it to.

30 August 2012, 11:06 AM	#1
Tango1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Palm Coast, FL Watch: Rolex Posts: 7	Bamford & Sons - Black Rolex's I don't see Rolex offering a black watch. Do the watches from Bamford & Sons hold their value? I really like the blacked out look. The link is here... http://professionalwatches.com/2008/...omized_by.html What would be a good price on only like this ? [img]http://professionalwatches.com/rolex-submariner-black-thumb-450x331.jpg[img]

30 August 2012, 12:04 PM	#3
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,834	Love em blacked out. But as a flipper, can't do it. I'll lose too much on resale. But I really do love em. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

30 August 2012, 01:04 PM	#5
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Bamford & Sons is a UK based clothiers who started customizing Rolex watches a decade ago with PVD coatings.. They then charge 2 to 3 times the MSRP (the Daytona is over 30k for example). I think it unlikely that a PVD paintjob at this price-point will retain it's value over time.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

4 September 2012, 12:33 AM	#9
mrexplorer Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NY Watch: 6239 Posts: 43	Titan black I had a really good experience using these guys. Very helpful and reasonable. www.titanblack.co.uk I am not the only one seemingly: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=241301

4 September 2012, 12:51 AM	#10
z32turbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sea Level Watch: Varies Posts: 6,877	i like the way it looks but wouldn't justify the extra $$$. __________________ Instagram @z32turbo

30 August 2012, 11:17 AM	#2
wokafu "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: SM300+14060M Posts: 2,012	personally i like it..but whatever the price is offering from them is not going to be cheap..

30 August 2012, 12:06 PM	#4
Mickey® Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mickey® Location: Atlanta, GA Watch: Swiss Made Posts: 5,801	If I had LOTS of money to "waste" I'd buy two!

30 August 2012, 02:25 PM	#8
Kyu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: yes.. it's Kyu Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex 116759SANR Posts: 1,499	makes me wanna get a sub just for this There is a group in NY that does really good PVD coating, I like their AP PVD coatings, looks really nice

4 September 2012, 01:13 AM	#12
DCgator "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PNW Watch: DS,BLNR,SubLV,DJ2 Posts: 8,123	It's simply an individual preference. DLC/PVD coating gives a Rolex watch an entirely different angle and style.

4 September 2012, 01:38 AM	#13
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	Not a fan of black watches. They look like hell after just one scratch Sent from my  using Tapatalk __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

4 September 2012, 02:49 AM	#14
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	If you want a watch with PVD coating, why not buy a watch from a brand that offers them? I think it is flat out silly to pvd or dlc a Rolex. __________________ My grails:

4 September 2012, 04:04 AM	#16
katana "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Paradis Location: Sweden Watch: Sub.1680/ Datejust Posts: 885	I would NOT have it for free if I have to wear it every day. As padi56 said, ROLEX will be thrilled when they see it...... Paradis __________________

4 September 2012, 04:41 AM	#17
DolphinV8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Earth Watch: 16610LV Posts: 949	I would imagine it's like selling a modified car. Unless you can find a buy who is truly in love with it, you are likely getting a hit.

4 September 2012, 09:15 AM	#18
vintagewaferthin "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Earth Watch: Air-King 5500 Posts: 2,620	The resale of these pvd rolexs is almost non existent. As said before the market is very limited as to who would want these watches making resale very hard. I personally wouldn't buy one ( I am bit of a Rolex purist), but if you want one buy one just for fun to keep, but don't buy one with the hopes of reselling it.

4 September 2012, 09:24 AM	#19
gwozhog "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Point Blank, TX Posts: 2,894	I know a guy who bought a murdered out DSSD. It is not scratch proof and you can see scratches that look SS. IMHO it looks like garbage after a few years. __________________ I once dated a girl in high school and her dad told me I would never amount to anything. He was right

4 September 2012, 09:55 AM	#20
jolimont "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Will Location: land of oz Watch: sundial Posts: 2,219	Poor investment and resale value, and PVD watches are usually overpriced, they sell basically because they are "unique"

4 September 2012, 01:10 PM	#21
Fernandohk "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 316	I don't see the point & for silly money at that. Tried to talk a friend out of getting one but he was adamant and ordered a blacked out GMT2C without the bracelet but with a handful of Natos thrown in. Different strokes I suppose.

4 September 2012, 02:29 PM	#22
dbphotos "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: David Location: Texas Watch: your 6! Posts: 898	Here's your photo link. You forgot the / at the end. __________________ www.DavidBailey.com Rolex DD YG 18238 \| Rolex 1675 Pepsi \| Rolex 14060 \| Rolex Vintage 6694 \| Rolex TT 16013 \| Tudor Tiger 79280P on Shark strap \| a whole bunch of misc watches

4 September 2012, 02:31 PM	#23
dbphotos "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: David Location: Texas Watch: your 6! Posts: 898	I like the look but due to the price and the likely inability to resell at a reasonable price down the road, I would go for something like a Steinhart in PVD. A lot less invested for the same look and who cares about what it would resell for. __________________ www.DavidBailey.com Rolex DD YG 18238 \| Rolex 1675 Pepsi \| Rolex 14060 \| Rolex Vintage 6694 \| Rolex TT 16013 \| Tudor Tiger 79280P on Shark strap \| a whole bunch of misc watches

4 September 2012, 02:52 PM	#24
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Each to their own. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

4 September 2012, 03:43 PM	#25
NYCrussino "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NYC Watch: 16610 Posts: 214	I love DLC finishes on rolexes, but I couldn't see a DLC holding its value compared to a normal rolex

4 September 2012, 03:57 PM	#26
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Oh boy. The weekly PVD thread ;-) Well...I think PVDd Rolex watches look like Doo Doo. These are truly for the guy with too much money. When I think of all the watches I would rather buy than a butchered classic Rolex.

4 September 2012, 05:11 PM	#27
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,297	I dig them............but alas I will never have one....my ex-wives took all my money. I see a SS watch & I want it painted black. No SS anymore I want them to turn black. I see a line of watches & they're all painted black. (apologies to Mick & Keith) __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

4 September 2012, 06:55 PM	#28
calbee673 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Charles Location: Sydney/Hong Kong Posts: 33	That black Sub looks bloody sensational! Very stealth-like...not sure I would buy one unless I can determine whether the craftsmanship and integrity of the original watch has been compromised or not.

4 September 2012, 07:19 PM	#29
Michael N Q8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Michael Location: Kuwait Watch: Daytona SS White Posts: 496	I previously understood that one could only buy DLC watches "brand new" i.e. Bamford get them new, coat them and sell them. There is however a service in LA that will service your watch and they will DLC it as well, at a cost of course. They quoted 3-5 weeks turnaround. Have a look at the DLC/PVD video on their site. I am thinking about doing my 14060m like this. http://www.timeandgems.com/dlc-pvd-watches

4 September 2012, 07:28 PM	#30
gregdolley Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Greg Dolley Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rose Gold Daytona Posts: 1,283	I don't think they hold their value at all. Rolexes that are heavily modified like this typically lose their value in the general market. However, there are a small group of people that absolutely love these mods and will pay top dollar for them. So, in the end, it really depends who you sell it to.

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