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speedy_master1 · 24 October 2012, 10:09 PM

which one do you have? and which one do you like?

capote · 24 October 2012, 10:17 PM

I have none. I like pre-C

Frogman4me · 24 October 2012, 10:20 PM

Old sub, older the better for me

lhanddds · 24 October 2012, 10:24 PM

Old

mattpeyton · 24 October 2012, 10:27 PM

New. Was worried I wouldn't love the new case, but it really does grow on you.... love it MORE now.

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train-time · 24 October 2012, 10:29 PM

Old Sub - 16610

I can't even guess at the number of Subs and SubC's I've flipped over the years and I'm about to buy another 16610 and hope it's the keeper this time. Wore a few SubC's (3 as I recall) for months each and just could not get used to the weight and the size of the clasp.

padi56 · 24 October 2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nima007

which one do you have? and which one do you like?

Well apart from a thin slither of very expensive ceramic, maxi dial and a new clasp and slightly different case and price rise.The new sub is very much like the old 16610 sub,the main bit the cal 3135 movement is still basically the same as when launched in 1988

Cru Jones · 24 October 2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Well apart from a thin slither of very expensive ceramic, maxi dial and a new clasp and slightly different case and price rise.The new sub is very much like the old 16610 sub,the main bit the cal 3135 movement is still basically the same as when launched in 1988

and solid link bracelet, too.....

padi56 · 25 October 2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

and solid link bracelet, too.....

No bracelet is solid they all have holes for the screws and bracelet pins much like the old type bracelet.

Vincent65 · 25 October 2012, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

No bracelet is solid they all have holes for the screws and bracelet pins much like the old type bracelet.

It's still 'solid' as opposed to hollow, folded and riveted - that's just getting into semantics.

submariner66 · 25 October 2012, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Well apart from a thin slither of very expensive ceramic, maxi dial and a new clasp and slightly different case and price rise.The new sub is very much like the old 16610 sub,the main bit the cal 3135 movement is still basically the same as when launched in 1988

Exactly! I have both and love them both equally, so they don't get jealous!

Grey.Coupe · 24 October 2012, 10:35 PM

New. I traded last version for C, and am delighted. The bracelet alone is worth the change.

Gangnam Style 16610 · 24 October 2012, 10:41 PM

I prefer old subs, pre ceramic. 16610. It's a modern classic.

mjclark32 · 24 October 2012, 10:40 PM

I have a 16610 and love it. It's been able to handle everything I've thrown at it. I've worn the 116613 for extended periods on and off and like it, but to me the additional cash for the "upgrades" isn't worth it.

Vincent65 · 24 October 2012, 10:44 PM

I love vintage. I've had a 16610, which was nice, but I sold it after a year. I now have a 1970 1680 Red, and love it. I like the new ceramic ones, too, but can't get past vintage right now!

BCNJ · 24 October 2012, 10:56 PM

new hulk!

Roller07 · 24 October 2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BCNJ

new hulk!

Oh Yeah

impalass · 24 October 2012, 11:25 PM

16610 LV Best of both worlds with the option of a black bezel.

YoyoGift8 · 25 October 2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by impalass

16610 LV Best of both worlds with the option of a black bezel.

X2

fishingbear · 27 October 2012, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by impalass

16610 LV Best of both worlds with the option of a black bezel.

The Sub-C is great looking but I prefer the classic old style especially the LV with the maxi dial markers.

McLovin · 24 October 2012, 11:25 PM

new TT

Roley · 24 October 2012, 11:29 PM

New, hands down!!

Tudor66 · 25 October 2012, 12:10 AM

I like the older models because they are slightly thinner and have just a little more character in my opinion. As for new models, I find the new gmtII-c to be the best looking sports model hands down...

kilyung · 25 October 2012, 12:15 AM

Both

mks4 · 25 October 2012, 12:20 AM

Tried on the new ND SubC last week and liked it on better than in pics. Bracelet is wonderful. But...still love the 14060 and 16610 for its narrower lugs. The ceramic looks silver in some light...too shiny for me.

Also, do others also wish that Rolex designed in some texture on the clasp to follow the pattern of the links? I think the new one looks too plain (or too much like a normal Oyster Perpetual clasp).

Dr. Robert · 25 October 2012, 07:51 AM

bah humbug....old subs rule...............

tdegroot · 25 October 2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Both

x2.

Psmith · 25 October 2012, 12:18 AM

Vintage and current Sub Dates for me i.e. 1680, 16800 (matte) and 116610

Not a fan of the 16610, although the LV's maxi dial was a big improvement

Memphis · 25 October 2012, 01:46 AM

how about the clasp... new or old? i like both subs but hate the old clasp, looks like it belongs in a cheap seiko.

penfold · 25 October 2012, 01:59 AM

The anti reflective coating under the cyclops is another improvement worth mentioning.

24 October 2012, 10:09 PM	#1
speedy_master1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: california Watch: can't decide. Posts: 2,477	the new sub vs the old sub which one do you have? and which one do you like?

24 October 2012, 10:40 PM	#14
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	I have a 16610 and love it. It's been able to handle everything I've thrown at it. I've worn the 116613 for extended periods on and off and like it, but to me the additional cash for the "upgrades" isn't worth it. __________________

24 October 2012, 10:44 PM	#15
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	I love vintage. I've had a 16610, which was nice, but I sold it after a year. I now have a 1970 1680 Red, and love it. I like the new ceramic ones, too, but can't get past vintage right now! Attached Images

24 October 2012, 11:25 PM	#18
impalass "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: Toronto, Canada. Watch: SD / LV / Daytona Posts: 2,089	16610 LV Best of both worlds with the option of a black bezel. Attached Images

25 October 2012, 12:10 AM	#23
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	I like the older models because they are slightly thinner and have just a little more character in my opinion. As for new models, I find the new gmtII-c to be the best looking sports model hands down... __________________ -NAWCC Member

24 October 2012, 10:17 PM	#2
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	I have none. I like pre-C

24 October 2012, 10:20 PM	#3
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	Old sub, older the better for me

24 October 2012, 10:24 PM	#4
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	Old

24 October 2012, 10:27 PM	#5
mattpeyton "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Matt Peyton Location: South Orange, NJ Watch: Rolex Sub C Posts: 67	New. Was worried I wouldn't love the new case, but it really does grow on you.... love it MORE now. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

24 October 2012, 10:29 PM	#6
train-time 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Plankton Location: US Watch: less Posts: 4,161	Old Sub - 16610 I can't even guess at the number of Subs and SubC's I've flipped over the years and I'm about to buy another 16610 and hope it's the keeper this time. Wore a few SubC's (3 as I recall) for months each and just could not get used to the weight and the size of the clasp.

24 October 2012, 10:35 PM	#12
Grey.Coupe "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NC, USA Posts: 555	New. I traded last version for C, and am delighted. The bracelet alone is worth the change.

24 October 2012, 10:41 PM	#13
Gangnam Style 16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Sydney Posts: 3	I prefer old subs, pre ceramic. 16610. It's a modern classic.

24 October 2012, 10:56 PM	#16
BCNJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Brendan Location: NJ Watch: Pepsi/LVC/DJII Posts: 446	new hulk!

24 October 2012, 11:25 PM	#21
McLovin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Watch: SubC Posts: 1,014	new TT

24 October 2012, 11:29 PM	#22
Roley "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Roland Location: GMT -4:00 Today Watch: Enthusiast Posts: 874	New, hands down!!

25 October 2012, 12:15 AM	#24
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Both

25 October 2012, 12:20 AM	#25
mks4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Frankfurt Watch: es Posts: 299	Tried on the new ND SubC last week and liked it on better than in pics. Bracelet is wonderful. But...still love the 14060 and 16610 for its narrower lugs. The ceramic looks silver in some light...too shiny for me. Also, do others also wish that Rolex designed in some texture on the clasp to follow the pattern of the links? I think the new one looks too plain (or too much like a normal Oyster Perpetual clasp). __________________ Rolex:5512/1680Red/14060M/1675/16710-Pepsi/1016/14270/1655 Tudor: 79180/94010 Lollipop/94110 Snowflake/THC PAM: 048/249 IWC: 3536 Ti/Mark XII Heuer (Tag): Temporada/Super Pro/F1 Seiko: 6159/6105/6117/6138/6139/6309/69799

25 October 2012, 07:51 AM	#26
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,277	bah humbug....old subs rule............... __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

25 October 2012, 12:18 AM	#28
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Vintage and current Sub Dates for me i.e. 1680, 16800 (matte) and 116610 Not a fan of the 16610, although the LV's maxi dial was a big improvement __________________

25 October 2012, 01:46 AM	#29
Memphis Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Connecticut Watch: 116610LN Posts: 448	how about the clasp... new or old? i like both subs but hate the old clasp, looks like it belongs in a cheap seiko.

25 October 2012, 01:59 AM	#30
penfold "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 107	The anti reflective coating under the cyclops is another improvement worth mentioning.

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