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haynjas · 25 October 2012, 05:42 AM

Tomorrow I am due to add a white dial explorer to compliment my GMTC and Daytona (black dial). But I am struggling to decide whether to go for the previous gen 16570 or the new 216570. Should I go for the classic look or go for the new style ? Thanks for any help/views.

superdog · 25 October 2012, 05:46 AM

the new one is amazing. but no wrong decision. i suppose it depends partly on your wrist size and what you are comfortable wearing. it wears larger than your GMTC

andyol1966 · 25 October 2012, 05:48 AM

Depends on which you prefer the look of and the size you like. Personally I like the bigger size and the newer bracelet is far superior IMO.

RRY · 25 October 2012, 05:50 AM

I wear the one to the left, so I'm biased. But you can't go wrong with either one. The 16570 wears very close in size as your daytona. In the end, you'll have to try on both and let your heart tell you which. Congratulations!

theloxmyth · 25 October 2012, 05:51 AM

If size doesn't matter (in watches ; ) you've a choice between the two 24hr hand colors.

I like red...

AH0RSEY · 25 October 2012, 05:52 AM

Get the new one as its larger and will give you something different against the 40mm, plus the bracelet is far superior

subtona · 25 October 2012, 05:52 AM

i have the new but also like the older model too...

new:42mm just like the super duper sky dweller/ improved movement / cool orange hand & writing / improved larger crown / solid bracelet with ez link / the super case is done right on the explorer with properly tapered lugs imho

old: 40mm traditional, pre over the top size / less expensive / perhaps more balanced? / old style bracelet / a great travel watch

bracelets: personal preference, i like both but i actually prefer the older simpler & cheaper style
lume: personal preference, i prefer the older green to the blue
maxi: personal preference, undecided but the larger minute hand is easier to see in the dark

im just bordering on a curmudgeon i suppose ... but the nail in the coffin are lugholes!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=260879
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=242510

mjclark32 · 25 October 2012, 05:52 AM

Congrats either way, hopefully you have/can try both on first.

R_Ongjoco · 25 October 2012, 05:52 AM

I like the super-sized orange hand on the new model especially that it pays homage to the original one, but like others have said, you cant go wrong with either watch.

capote · 25 October 2012, 06:10 AM

I prefer the 16570.

kcmo · 25 October 2012, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capote

i prefer the 16570.

x2

Bad Lawyer · 25 October 2012, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capote

I prefer the 16570.

+1

travisb · 25 October 2012, 06:13 PM

216570.

Everything about it tops the previous gen in my opinion.

ndsleep612 · 25 October 2012, 06:23 AM

Since you already have the GMT2-C and the Daytona both of which are 40mm watches, are you comfortable with getting a larger 42MM Ex.2, or want something similar(16570) to your current collection?

floater156 · 25 October 2012, 07:01 AM

I'd probably go w/ the 16570 because of it's size. The 42mm wears a little to large for me.I have a 41mm DJ and the 42mm ExpII wears a lot larger then the DJII.

Cru Jones · 25 October 2012, 07:17 AM

16570 in white and 216570 in black, IMO.

stockae92 · 26 October 2012, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

16570 in white and 216570 in black, IMO.

I kinda have to agree on this

though for me is the 16750 in white ONLY ...

Watchflair · 25 October 2012, 07:20 AM

No question about it I would go for the new one. I have a new Explorer II noir and love the size and fit of the watch. I also have an odd infatuation with orange now...

haynjas · 25 October 2012, 08:11 AM

Seems like we have a split decision. I am tending towards the 216570 - I really appreciate the classic beauty and proportions of the previous gen but feel it lacks presence compared to my other watches - I have a 7" wrist. Also, the tiny bracelet is a negative once you are used to the improved versions.

Cru Jones · 25 October 2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by haynjas

Seems like we have a split decision. I am tending towards the 216570 - I really appreciate the classic beauty and proportions of the previous gen but feel it lacks presence compared to my other watches - I have a 7" wrist. Also, the tiny bracelet is a negative once you are used to the improved versions.

Based on what you're saying, go 216570. If you go 16570, you'll constantly think of the other one's bracelet and clasp, presence and other "upgrades", while with the new one you'll quickly get used to the proportions and never look back. Next step: incoming!

mannyv11 · 25 October 2012, 08:15 AM

New all the way, the bracelet and clasp are awesome, the old ones worked very well too, and the new lume is so beautiful! I also like the 42mm size I would go with new on this one and never look back =)

nauticajoe · 25 October 2012, 08:16 AM

You can't go wrong with either one. I'd probably lean towards the 216570.

Good luck!

Brenngun · 25 October 2012, 09:14 AM

I've owned both. Recently traded my 16570 for the 216570. As much as I loved the 16570 the newer reference is my favorite between the 2. If not for the orange nod to the original then absolutely for the upgraded bracelet & clasp.

mvmbles · 25 October 2012, 10:48 AM

Aesthetically I prefer the 216570, but it does wear a little large. You mention your wrist is 7" so if you like larger watches, I say go for it.

I loved mine, but traded it because I felt it was just a tad too big for my preference. To be honest, I DO think about the piece still, but I thought I'd try to forget it and move on. Just my luck when I'm introduced to a Sales Manager for a large liquor distribution company I do business with, he glances down at my wrist, and we start talking horology for over an hour. He mentioned he wanted a Polar 216570 next in his collection, so I told him my story about how I had it, let it go, but still kind of missed it. He told me to buy another one, try it again for a few months, and if/when I get sick of it, he would buy it off me! Looks like another white 216570 is in my future after all

FiftyTwoEighty · 25 October 2012, 11:33 AM

I went with a 42 Polar because I have a larger wrist.

Either way, you are not going to go wrong!

brkanand · 25 October 2012, 11:34 AM

Whatever you end up choosing, my best wishes

AmbSteve · 25 October 2012, 12:05 PM

I'd go with the new 42 mm version...the new size is great and I really like the orange 24-hr hand.

Micha · 25 October 2012, 12:10 PM

love the 16570......

hdrazor251 · 25 October 2012, 12:10 PM

16570 but I'm very biased.

Aventura · 25 October 2012, 01:22 PM

The new 216570 is there is on the top of the line of all the models Rolex.
Any time you have a case of less than 42mm looks old and outdated. That's my personal opinion.

25 October 2012, 05:42 AM	#1
haynjas "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: JH Location: London - UK Watch: SSD/GMT2C/LVC/DJ2 Posts: 103	Polar Explorer - Decision time Tomorrow I am due to add a white dial explorer to compliment my GMTC and Daytona (black dial). But I am struggling to decide whether to go for the previous gen 16570 or the new 216570. Should I go for the classic look or go for the new style ? Thanks for any help/views.

25 October 2012, 05:46 AM	#2
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,834	the new one is amazing. but no wrong decision. i suppose it depends partly on your wrist size and what you are comfortable wearing. it wears larger than your GMTC __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

25 October 2012, 05:51 AM	#5
theloxmyth 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY Posts: 6,382	If size doesn't matter (in watches ; ) you've a choice between the two 24hr hand colors. I like red... __________________ Craig, The (I'm JUST a) Loxmyth. If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. — Albert Einstein (1879-1955) TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION IS ENABLED.

25 October 2012, 05:52 AM	#6
AH0RSEY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: Harrogate Watch: OUT !!!! Posts: 829	Get the new one as its larger and will give you something different against the 40mm, plus the bracelet is far superior __________________ Current rotation; AP15500ST grey, White Daytona 116500, WG Black/Red Daytona 116509, White and Black EXP 42, GMT2C.... too many previous it makes my head hurt thinking about them.

25 October 2012, 05:52 AM	#7
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,598	i have the new but also like the older model too... new:42mm just like the super duper sky dweller/ improved movement / cool orange hand & writing / improved larger crown / solid bracelet with ez link / the super case is done right on the explorer with properly tapered lugs imho old: 40mm traditional, pre over the top size / less expensive / perhaps more balanced? / old style bracelet / a great travel watch bracelets: personal preference, i like both but i actually prefer the older simpler & cheaper style lume: personal preference, i prefer the older green to the blue maxi: personal preference, undecided but the larger minute hand is easier to see in the dark im just bordering on a curmudgeon i suppose ... but the nail in the coffin are lugholes! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=260879 http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=242510 __________________

25 October 2012, 05:48 AM	#3
andyol1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: East Midlands, UK Watch: Patek and Rolex Posts: 1,074	Depends on which you prefer the look of and the size you like. Personally I like the bigger size and the newer bracelet is far superior IMO.

25 October 2012, 05:50 AM	#4
RRY "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: DOUBLE RY Location: NYC Watch: and learn. Posts: 289	I wear the one to the left, so I'm biased. But you can't go wrong with either one. The 16570 wears very close in size as your daytona. In the end, you'll have to try on both and let your heart tell you which. Congratulations!

25 October 2012, 05:52 AM	#8
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Congrats either way, hopefully you have/can try both on first. __________________

25 October 2012, 05:52 AM	#9
R_Ongjoco "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Ron Location: BayArea/SanDiego Watch: AP Posts: 427	I like the super-sized orange hand on the new model especially that it pays homage to the original one, but like others have said, you cant go wrong with either watch.

25 October 2012, 06:10 AM	#10
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	I prefer the 16570.

25 October 2012, 06:13 PM	#13
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,489	216570. Everything about it tops the previous gen in my opinion.

25 October 2012, 06:23 AM	#14
ndsleep612 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SF Watch: Ex.2. Posts: 512	Since you already have the GMT2-C and the Daytona both of which are 40mm watches, are you comfortable with getting a larger 42MM Ex.2, or want something similar(16570) to your current collection?

25 October 2012, 07:01 AM	#15
floater156 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: Wisconsin Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,984	I'd probably go w/ the 16570 because of it's size. The 42mm wears a little to large for me.I have a 41mm DJ and the 42mm ExpII wears a lot larger then the DJII. __________________ Lead by example through production.

25 October 2012, 07:17 AM	#16
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,299	16570 in white and 216570 in black, IMO.

25 October 2012, 07:20 AM	#18
Watchflair 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Westchester NY Watch: Love em all Posts: 5,920	No question about it I would go for the new one. I have a new Explorer II noir and love the size and fit of the watch. I also have an odd infatuation with orange now... __________________ Remember what matters. Value everyday

25 October 2012, 08:11 AM	#19
haynjas "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: JH Location: London - UK Watch: SSD/GMT2C/LVC/DJ2 Posts: 103	Seems like we have a split decision. I am tending towards the 216570 - I really appreciate the classic beauty and proportions of the previous gen but feel it lacks presence compared to my other watches - I have a 7" wrist. Also, the tiny bracelet is a negative once you are used to the improved versions.

25 October 2012, 08:15 AM	#21
mannyv11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Manny Location: MA Watch: DD,Sub,GMT,Daytona Posts: 4,510	New all the way, the bracelet and clasp are awesome, the old ones worked very well too, and the new lume is so beautiful! I also like the 42mm size I would go with new on this one and never look back =)

25 October 2012, 08:16 AM	#22
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	You can't go wrong with either one. I'd probably lean towards the 216570. Good luck!

25 October 2012, 09:14 AM	#23
Brenngun 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Rick Location: Smokin' Heaven Watch: Rolex & Tudor Posts: 3,866	I've owned both. Recently traded my 16570 for the 216570. As much as I loved the 16570 the newer reference is my favorite between the 2. If not for the orange nod to the original then absolutely for the upgraded bracelet & clasp.

25 October 2012, 10:48 AM	#24
mvmbles "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Nick Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 759	Aesthetically I prefer the 216570, but it does wear a little large. You mention your wrist is 7" so if you like larger watches, I say go for it. I loved mine, but traded it because I felt it was just a tad too big for my preference. To be honest, I DO think about the piece still, but I thought I'd try to forget it and move on. Just my luck when I'm introduced to a Sales Manager for a large liquor distribution company I do business with, he glances down at my wrist, and we start talking horology for over an hour. He mentioned he wanted a Polar 216570 next in his collection, so I told him my story about how I had it, let it go, but still kind of missed it. He told me to buy another one, try it again for a few months, and if/when I get sick of it, he would buy it off me! Looks like another white 216570 is in my future after all

25 October 2012, 11:33 AM	#25
FiftyTwoEighty 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Woody Location: Surf City USA Watch: me live @the Beach Posts: 1,794	I went with a 42 Polar because I have a larger wrist. Either way, you are not going to go wrong! __________________ Some 4 digits, 5 digits, and 6 digits 2FA

25 October 2012, 11:34 AM	#26
brkanand 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: DrK Location: India Watch: 4=YMDaytonaGMTHulk Posts: 7,052	Whatever you end up choosing, my best wishes

25 October 2012, 12:05 PM	#27
AmbSteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: San Angelo, TX Watch: Rlx,Omega,JLC,Breg Posts: 1,699	I'd go with the new 42 mm version...the new size is great and I really like the orange 24-hr hand. __________________

25 October 2012, 12:10 PM	#28
Micha "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: S.Florida/Ontario Watch: 6263, 1675 Posts: 2,259	love the 16570...... __________________ life is good

25 October 2012, 12:10 PM	#29
hdrazor251 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Jeff Location: Arizona Watch: is recovered!! Posts: 4,255	16570 but I'm very biased. __________________ 16753 GMT Master, 16613 Bluesy, 16710 GMT Master II, 16570 Polar Explorer II-Stolen & Recovered!! Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

25 October 2012, 01:22 PM	#30
Aventura "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Miami Beach FL US Posts: 1,425	Imho The new 216570 is there is on the top of the line of all the models Rolex. Any time you have a case of less than 42mm looks old and outdated. That's my personal opinion.

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