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Old 1 November 2012, 02:17 AM   #1
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Need advice - GMT watch

Hello!

I have a green sub, the "hulk" and i am very satisfied of this watch! Beautiful! The best watch there is, and i like all about it, but, after having a lot of other watches i still dont find the perfect GMT watch that could give me what the Hulk gives me when thinking about divers. So, the questions is, EXCEPT the rolex (GMT and Explorer) what would you chose as a GMT (dual time watch) that could be a nice pair with the Sub?

What i would like the GMT to be:
- steel bracelet
- reasonable wr (100+)
- inhouse movement
- reliable (to last me a life time) - i will buy it when i will relocate to another continent and i would like a watch that shows the time at my country of origin. I will leave it to my children.
- price range - around 10-15.000

What i had in the past war the reverso JLC - squadra hometime (loved it but 50m wr... too low) and i had an Ebel BTR GMT - not bad, but... not enough salt and pepper :)

PS - writting this i cant find a better one than the Rolex GMT ceramic. Need your advice about someting different.

Thank you! :)
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Old 1 November 2012, 02:23 AM   #2
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I guess you could look at some Omega watches for that.

Honestly, I don't think there is a better watch for you than the Rolex GMT Master. It has all the salt and pepper anyone other than a very, very, serious, or commercial diver would ever need.
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Old 1 November 2012, 02:28 AM   #3
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I love my GMTc, highly recommend it. Otherwise I would go for a Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Dualtime. Classic, works great as both casual and dress IMO.


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Old 1 November 2012, 02:43 AM   #4
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I love my GMTc, highly recommend it. Otherwise I would go for a Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Dualtime. Classic, works great as both casual and dress IMO.


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The problem is that the movement is a JLC movement and i think the wr is 50m. I have what i consider the best AP - 15300. But the dual time, nice but not really a match (in my eyes for the GMT ceramic Rolex).
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Old 1 November 2012, 05:29 AM   #5
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The problem is that the movement is a JLC movement and i think the wr is 50m. I have what i consider the best AP - 15300. But the dual time, nice but not really a match (in my eyes for the GMT ceramic Rolex).
AP simply puts any Rolex to shame, JLC movement or not. I don't understand your analogy on in house movements. Rolex used to use the Zenith movement on the Daytona which many think was a good move and better movement.
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Old 1 November 2012, 02:51 AM   #6
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Old 1 November 2012, 02:51 AM   #7
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VC makes an Overseas Dualtime that meets your requirements.
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Old 1 November 2012, 02:55 AM   #8
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VC makes an Overseas Dualtime that meets your requirements.
Same movement as AP - a JLC calibre inside. :)
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Old 1 November 2012, 02:57 AM   #9
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The problem is that the movement is a JLC movement
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Same movement as AP - a JLC calibre inside. :)
Not sure I understand.

What would be the problem with a JLC movement?
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Old 1 November 2012, 03:05 AM   #10
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It is not in-house. The way i see a watch with no inhouse movement is that they are not making a watch, but only assembling it.
No problem with a JLC movement inside a JLC watch. :)
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Old 1 November 2012, 03:19 AM   #11
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Seriously, you won't find a better GMT than the GMT IIc or Explorer II. Other manufacturers do GMTs/World Timers, but none can compete with the easy legibility, superb movement and overall package of the Rolexes
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Old 1 November 2012, 03:22 AM   #12
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Seriously, you won't find a better GMT than the GMT IIc or Explorer II. Other manufacturers do GMTs/World Timers, but none can compete with the easy legibility, superb movement and overall package of the Rolexes


Chris, do you know if other brands have jump hour hand feature like Rolex?
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Old 1 November 2012, 03:25 AM   #13
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Chris, do you know if other brands have jump hour hand feature like Rolex?
Off the top of my head, Omega GMTs do (they also use a jump hour in a few of their standard time and date movements as opposed to a traditional quickset date). I have to say my knowledge is a bit patchy beyond that
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Old 1 November 2012, 01:33 PM   #14
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Seriously, you won't find a better GMT than the GMT IIc or Explorer II. Other manufacturers do GMTs/World Timers, but none can compete with the easy legibility, superb movement and overall package of the Rolexes
SO TRUE!!!
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Old 1 November 2012, 03:32 AM   #15
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More than I knew, thanks.
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Grand Seiko GMT SBGE001 is 200 meters wr, hour hand adjustable in one hour increments, sapphire bezel with amazing lume, and amazingly accurate. It is a great choice as an alternate to Rolex!
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Old 1 November 2012, 04:08 AM   #17
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Grand Seiko GMT SBGE001 is 200 meters wr, hour hand adjustable in one hour increments, sapphire bezel with amazing lume, and amazingly accurate. It is a great choice as an alternate to Rolex!
This is nice indeed! well, something like this! I dont know how i forgot about it! :)
Thanks!

So, what else is out there? :)
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Old 1 November 2012, 11:14 PM   #18
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Grand Seiko GMT SBGE001 is 200 meters wr, hour hand adjustable in one hour increments, sapphire bezel with amazing lume, and amazingly accurate. It is a great choice as an alternate to Rolex!
+1. Bullseye. This ia superb choice for a GMT.
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Old 1 November 2012, 03:58 AM   #19
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The Rolex GMT is THE GMT watch as far as I'm concerned, although JLC makes a very nice dressy dual time worth looking into.
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I don't think you could better a Rolex GMTc IMO one of the best watches all round that Rolex make.
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Old 1 November 2012, 04:27 AM   #21
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I don't think you could better a Rolex GMTc IMO one of the best watches all round that Rolex make.

This is what i think, but... is it really? :)
I found this: Grand seiko, automatic gmt - SBGM001 
Pretty nice.
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Old 1 November 2012, 04:31 AM   #22
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Old 1 November 2012, 04:32 AM   #23
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Hello!

I have a green sub, the "hulk" and i am very satisfied of this watch! Beautiful! The best watch there is, and i like all about it, but, after having a lot of other watches i still dont find the perfect GMT watch that could give me what the Hulk gives me when thinking about divers. So, the questions is, EXCEPT the rolex (GMT and Explorer) what would you chose as a GMT (dual time watch) that could be a nice pair with the Sub?

What i would like the GMT to be:
- steel bracelet
- reasonable wr (100+)
- inhouse movement
- reliable (to last me a life time) - i will buy it when i will relocate to another continent and i would like a watch that shows the time at my country of origin. I will leave it to my children.
- price range - around 10-15.000

What i had in the past war the reverso JLC - squadra hometime (loved it but 50m wr... too low) and i had an Ebel BTR GMT - not bad, but... not enough salt and pepper :)

PS - writting this i cant find a better one than the Rolex GMT ceramic. Need your advice about someting different.

Thank you! :)
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Old 1 November 2012, 05:15 AM   #24
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I dont understand Japonese, but i can see the pictures and the video at the end of this post. I guess this one on bracelet is something that could be a serious option.
http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?b...No=40076366390
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Old 1 November 2012, 06:00 AM   #25
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Well vintage wise I have a couple of Accutron Astronauts.
New I think the Grand Sekio is very cool. But it's almost 6k.
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Old 1 November 2012, 06:37 AM   #26
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IMHO GMT Master 2 and Explorer 2 are the best GMT watches in the market.

JLC Master Compressor Geographic and GMT models can fit your criterias.

http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/TR/e...f/1718170.html

http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/TR/e...f/1738171.html

Also you can check Panerai.

http://www.panerai.com/s_page.xpd?id...categoria=9034

http://www.panerai.com/s_page.xpd?id...categoria=9034
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another vote for the GMT master or Explorer
if not you may check this out, as it meets your criteria:
http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/se...23110432203001
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I have a GMT Master II c but before buying this I was seriously considering buying a PAM 244
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Seiko Astron!!
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When I was looking to add a GMT watch to my "stable" of watches I went with a sightly older model from Omega, 2538.20 Seamaster GMT "Great White, although it doesn't hit all your requirements, it has a 300m depth rating, great on the wrist and every bit as hearty as most dive watches on the market.
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