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Galump · 8 November 2012, 08:35 AM

I like all three of these watches. What is your input?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271097419822...84.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281012327665...84.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121012107215...84.m1423.l2649

gerard88t · 8 November 2012, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galump

I like all three of these watches. What is your input?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271097419822...84.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281012327665...84.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121012107215...84.m1423.l2649

I generally say no to ebay with Rolex. Those all look suspect to my eyes albeit I am no vintage expert.

kyle L · 8 November 2012, 10:09 AM

I'd say pass on all three of them. The first one is probably real, but has been redialed. The 2nd one is just a converted pocket watch...I don't think anything is Rolex on that one. The 3rd one has also been redialed and is quite pricey.

springer · 8 November 2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kyle L

I'd say pass on all three of them. The first one is probably real, but has been redialed. The 2nd one is just a converted pocket watch...I don't think anything is Rolex on that one. The 3rd one has also been redialed and is quite pricey.

Kyle summed it up pretty good.

crowncollection · 8 November 2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle L

I'd say pass on all three of them. The first one is probably real, but has been redialed. The 2nd one is just a converted pocket watch...I don't think anything is Rolex on that one. The 3rd one has also been redialed and is quite pricey.

kyle hit the nail on the head

Czechman · 8 November 2012, 11:45 AM

Personally I'd only consider the third one. the lister has creds and trends pass so I count the restoration as a plus. Beautiful especially considering it's all original. It's a hundred year old watch!

Alcan · 8 November 2012, 01:58 PM

The first MAY be be an authentic early Rolex.

The second has been discussed at length here, and is generally agreed to be an early Rolex sourced movement in an aftermarket non-original case.

The description of the third doesn't ring true, and the Rolex branding on the dial is not consistent with a 1915 Rolex. That was the year Hans Wilsdorf started the Rolex Watch Company (from 1905 to 1908 it was Wilsdorf & Davis) , and no known dials from that year were branded "Rolex". The watch presented appears to have a refinished dial, and the hands were not known to be used on Rolex watches until several decades later.

Czechman · 8 November 2012, 09:14 PM

I've just messaged the lister of the third watch asking him to state his case here. Let's see what he has to say regarding his assertions that the watch is as he says.

Czechman · 9 November 2012, 11:07 AM

Okay, I messaged the seller and told him of this discussion suggesting he may want to comment. This is his response:

Good evening,

With respect, I could not care less what the self styled
experts say in the forums. I have read the comments and they are mostly
rubbish. The watch is 100% all original Rolex parts and yes, the dial is
restored - as my description points out! Doh. They really are too stupid to
read. I have twenty years experience; I know far more than they do I assure
you. But as I said, I take no interest in these silly forums; someone will
get a great early Rolex.

Best,

Stephen

mbuckley · 9 November 2012, 02:36 PM

Man oh man--what a kind response---a real jackwagon----

crowncollection · 9 November 2012, 02:39 PM

I don't know why he upset, with his watch, all that was said is thst it had a refinished dial, which he states to his credit, it also has refinished hands which he does not state, ask him about them.

RolexWatcher · 9 November 2012, 06:00 PM

The guy is upset because he thinks he is bigger than us minions on this silly forum.

8 November 2012, 08:35 AM	#1
Galump Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Martin Location: MS Gulf Coast Watch: Rolex 116203 Posts: 78	Help a novice out please I like all three of these watches. What is your input? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271097419822...84.m1423.l2649 http://www.ebay.com/itm/281012327665...84.m1423.l2649 http://www.ebay.com/itm/121012107215...84.m1423.l2649

8 November 2012, 11:45 AM	#6
Czechman "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Watch: See my signature Posts: 1,189	Personally I'd only consider the third one. the lister has creds and trends pass so I count the restoration as a plus. Beautiful especially considering it's all original. It's a hundred year old watch! __________________ "Woody and Jen say hey from North Kakalaki" 19019, 19018x3, 17000x2, 16570x2, 16220, 5700, 1501, 6564, 16030, 16710, 16610

8 November 2012, 01:58 PM	#7
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	The first MAY be be an authentic early Rolex. The second has been discussed at length here, and is generally agreed to be an early Rolex sourced movement in an aftermarket non-original case. The description of the third doesn't ring true, and the Rolex branding on the dial is not consistent with a 1915 Rolex. That was the year Hans Wilsdorf started the Rolex Watch Company (from 1905 to 1908 it was Wilsdorf & Davis) , and no known dials from that year were branded "Rolex". The watch presented appears to have a refinished dial, and the hands were not known to be used on Rolex watches until several decades later. __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

8 November 2012, 09:14 PM	#8
Czechman "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Watch: See my signature Posts: 1,189	I've just messaged the lister of the third watch asking him to state his case here. Let's see what he has to say regarding his assertions that the watch is as he says. __________________ "Woody and Jen say hey from North Kakalaki" 19019, 19018x3, 17000x2, 16570x2, 16220, 5700, 1501, 6564, 16030, 16710, 16610

9 November 2012, 11:07 AM	#9
Czechman "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Watch: See my signature Posts: 1,189	Okay, I messaged the seller and told him of this discussion suggesting he may want to comment. This is his response: Good evening, With respect, I could not care less what the self styled experts say in the forums. I have read the comments and they are mostly rubbish. The watch is 100% all original Rolex parts and yes, the dial is restored - as my description points out! Doh. They really are too stupid to read. I have twenty years experience; I know far more than they do I assure you. But as I said, I take no interest in these silly forums; someone will get a great early Rolex. Best, Stephen __________________ "Woody and Jen say hey from North Kakalaki" 19019, 19018x3, 17000x2, 16570x2, 16220, 5700, 1501, 6564, 16030, 16710, 16610

8 November 2012, 10:09 AM	#3
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	I'd say pass on all three of them. The first one is probably real, but has been redialed. The 2nd one is just a converted pocket watch...I don't think anything is Rolex on that one. The 3rd one has also been redialed and is quite pricey.

9 November 2012, 02:36 PM	#10
mbuckley "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Norman, Oklahoma Watch: Exp II Posts: 616	Man oh man--what a kind response---a real jackwagon----

9 November 2012, 02:39 PM	#11
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	I don't know why he upset, with his watch, all that was said is thst it had a refinished dial, which he states to his credit, it also has refinished hands which he does not state, ask him about them. __________________ watches many

9 November 2012, 06:00 PM	#12
RolexWatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Vincent Location: LON HKG SYD Posts: 1,236	The guy is upset because he thinks he is bigger than us minions on this silly forum.

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