Help! Identifying Ladies Rolex

[sumac23]

This ladies Rolex has me stumped. The watch was given by a husband to his wife about 30 years ago and she keeps in in a safety deposit vault since then. It has no papers or box that we can find. The movement seems to be authentic but we have not been able to identify the era. The watch is in good running condition and keeps good time. The face and winder have Rolex logos on them. The band is another question mark as it is marked 14K with a fleur du lis on the back of the clasp and a rolex logo on the front of the clasp, making us think that this could be a factory job bracelet. Can anyone help in identifying the watch movement and possibly if the bracelet is authentic? Can anyone suggest a reasonable price for it??

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Welcome to TRF!

I have never seen that model before.

The "14 carat gold" designation and the caseback don't real like the real thing, though.

Also, the hinging of the protective cover looks a bit too poorly made compared to what Rolex otherwise would put on the market.

[sumac23]

I was able to get the back off and confirmed that the bracelet is a genuine Rolex case and band. Also was able to confirm the movement was a Ref 1400.

[padi56]

Well the Cal 1400 is the smallest movement Rolex ever made. And quite unusual because they used incabloc shock protection instead of the normal for Rolex Kif system.And was around in the early 1950s to 60s very strong reliable movement.The bracelet looks like it was custom made could be Italian.As for price cannot help you there but ladies cocktail type watches are not that popular now.But because its Rolex and quite a bit of gold I would say around $1500 may be a bit more on a good day,but trade price15% - 25% less.

[gaopa]

Here is a photo of a Rolex I bought my wife in 1968. I have posted this photo here before as this is evidently a pretty rare watch now. She winds it daily and it has been serviced once in all these years. She has enjoyed wearing it daily. The bracelet is not Rolex.

Your ladies Rolex is a very pretty and very unusual watch. The style of your watch looks like the style of ours.

Just curious... does Rolex make a nice ladies watch now? My wife does not like the smaller version of the man's Rolex.
Cheers, Bill P.

[sumac23]

HI Bill, Thanks for the pict. Definately the same movement. Glad you can confirm the 1960's time frame for production. I did not know about the movement specifics. I put the watch on Ebay and it got bids to $2100 so people are definitely looking for these watches. Cheers

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by sumac23

HI Bill, Thanks for the pict. Definately the same movement. Glad you can confirm the 1960's time frame for production. I did not know about the movement specifics.

I concur with Padi re the production date. This circa 1960 of Nancy's with the same movement # was overhauled at the Toronto RSC last month. Nice to know they still have access to all movement parts for a ~50 year old watch.

As an interesting aside, it appears that Rolex farmed out some of their gold work back then, as evidenced by the clasp on hers.