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Bangzi · 17 January 2013, 03:09 AM

http://swx.com.sg/forum/showthread.p...th-Nice-patina
Your thoughts please.

TimeToGo · 17 January 2013, 10:17 AM

Welcome to the Forum!

The case is probably the best feature, nice and fat. I am not too keen to the orange patina, almost making it look questionable. Also, the hands do not look like the original match to the dial.

Price seems high but I know they are a little higher on your side of the pond.

RLX-lvr · 17 January 2013, 11:13 AM

Too much money IMHO.
As well the hands don't match in colour. No biggie, but finding that colour is a challenge.
Light cream or white is much easier to source.

Wait and keep looking for a better piece at a cheaper price.

Bangzi · 17 January 2013, 11:19 AM

Thanks for the feedback guys.
The watch is priced in sgd so it works out to be 5720 usd with bracelet.

bluemartinifan · 17 January 2013, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bangzi

Thanks for the feedback guys.
The watch is priced in sgd so it works out to be 5720 usd with bracelet.

fat nice case, $5720 w/ bracelet is market price for this watch - assuming all is original.

swish77 · 17 January 2013, 03:06 PM

Fantastic thick case. Really hard to find like that. Also, while the patina of the hands in the photo looks a shade off from the dial, it might not be as apparent in person. And there's certainly a chance that the hands are original. Tritium on the hands and dial doesn't always age the same. I actually love the patina and think it's a pretty good price for the condition. Good luck!

Vincent65 · 17 January 2013, 06:08 PM

Looks good to me - nothing to confirm the hands and dial are not original - they often change colour differently. Great case. bracelet is totally shot, but can be restored. If that's what you're after, I'd say it was a good one. Great to have the RSC cert as well - I'd go for it.

Robbyvm · 17 January 2013, 10:41 PM

fat case, nice patina, changed hands (my opinion)...

TurboWatch · 18 January 2013, 11:03 AM

I wouldn't buy it. You will have problem selling the watch in the future, let alone recoup the money invested in it. The watch hasn't sold for a reason. It's not the matching patina that is the problem of the watch. It is the FAT case. The top lugs have been so incorrectly polished that I think even the famous Bexley would have trouble restoring the original bevels/chamfers of this watch because the top lug is so closed to the lug hole. Top portion of each lug has been polished down so much that it gives it a FAT look.

You just have to be real careful and do lots of research before venturing into this vintage business. I am not saying this particular seller is a bad seller, but there are unscrupulous people out there that would do anything for a quick buck.

BTW, It is widely known that Rolex used different sources for dials and hands, that is why you rarely see a perfect dial and hands match.

Good luck hunting !

GeoGio Greece · 18 January 2013, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboWatch

..............It is the FAT case. The top lugs have been so incorrectly polished .................restoring the original bevels/chamfers of this watch because the top lug is so closed to the lug hole. Top portion of each lug has been polished down so much that it gives it a FAT look.

.........................

Good luck hunting !

Yes, this is a very good point,

the case does NOT look Rolex anymore.

sprocketty · 18 January 2013, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboWatch

I wouldn't buy it. You will have problem selling the watch in the future, let alone recoup the money invested in it. The watch hasn't sold for a reason. It's not the matching patina that is the problem of the watch. It is the FAT case. The top lugs have been so incorrectly polished that I think even the famous Bexley would have trouble restoring the original bevels/chamfers of this watch because the top lug is so closed to the lug hole. Top portion of each lug has been polished down so much that it gives it a FAT look.

You just have to be real careful and do lots of research before venturing into this vintage business. I am not saying this particular seller is a bad seller, but there are unscrupulous people out there that would do anything for a quick buck.

BTW, It is widely known that Rolex used different sources for dials and hands, that is why you rarely see a perfect dial and hands match.

Good luck hunting !

wow great info! can i check which picture shows the overpolishing? I can't seem to find what you're talking about.

On a separate note, would you say THIS an example of a good lug:
http://10pastten.com/itemimages/TA572-4.JPG

Thanks :)

sprocketty · 18 January 2013, 11:23 PM

oops wrong thread

JML375 · 2 February 2013, 11:22 PM

I've been on a hunt for a vintage 5513 as well and recently purchased one from a reputable seller from the bay (watch is on the way). I'm not an expert, but I just find it odd that in the seller's pics, that in the best frontal pics, the '660ft' is blocked by the hour hand. BTW in the Singapore context, those 'RSC papers' are usually just a S$90 receipt from Singapore RSC that they 'handled' the watch. They did not necessarily inspect it.

17 January 2013, 03:09 AM	#1
Bangzi "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Singapore Posts: 3	Thoughts on a pending purchase 5513 2.3m serial http://swx.com.sg/forum/showthread.p...th-Nice-patina Your thoughts please.

18 January 2013, 11:03 AM	#9
TurboWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,641	For the price I wouldn't buy it. You will have problem selling the watch in the future, let alone recoup the money invested in it. The watch hasn't sold for a reason. It's not the matching patina that is the problem of the watch. It is the FAT case. The top lugs have been so incorrectly polished that I think even the famous Bexley would have trouble restoring the original bevels/chamfers of this watch because the top lug is so closed to the lug hole. Top portion of each lug has been polished down so much that it gives it a FAT look. You just have to be real careful and do lots of research before venturing into this vintage business. I am not saying this particular seller is a bad seller, but there are unscrupulous people out there that would do anything for a quick buck. BTW, It is widely known that Rolex used different sources for dials and hands, that is why you rarely see a perfect dial and hands match. Good luck hunting !

18 January 2013, 11:23 PM	#12
sprocketty "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alberta Posts: 21	oops wrong thread Last edited by sprocketty; 18 January 2013 at 11:24 PM.. Reason: error

17 January 2013, 10:17 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Welcome to the Forum! The case is probably the best feature, nice and fat. I am not too keen to the orange patina, almost making it look questionable. Also, the hands do not look like the original match to the dial. Price seems high but I know they are a little higher on your side of the pond.

17 January 2013, 11:13 AM	#3
RLX-lvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Toronto Posts: 1,947	Too much money IMHO. As well the hands don't match in colour. No biggie, but finding that colour is a challenge. Light cream or white is much easier to source. Wait and keep looking for a better piece at a cheaper price.

17 January 2013, 11:19 AM	#4
Bangzi "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Singapore Posts: 3	Thanks for the feedback guys. The watch is priced in sgd so it works out to be 5720 usd with bracelet.

17 January 2013, 03:06 PM	#6
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 7,001	Fantastic thick case. Really hard to find like that. Also, while the patina of the hands in the photo looks a shade off from the dial, it might not be as apparent in person. And there's certainly a chance that the hands are original. Tritium on the hands and dial doesn't always age the same. I actually love the patina and think it's a pretty good price for the condition. Good luck!

17 January 2013, 06:08 PM	#7
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	Looks good to me - nothing to confirm the hands and dial are not original - they often change colour differently. Great case. bracelet is totally shot, but can be restored. If that's what you're after, I'd say it was a good one. Great to have the RSC cert as well - I'd go for it.

17 January 2013, 10:41 PM	#8
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	fat case, nice patina, changed hands (my opinion)...

2 February 2013, 11:22 PM	#13
JML375 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Juan Location: Singapore Watch: 16570 V Polar Posts: 20	I've been on a hunt for a vintage 5513 as well and recently purchased one from a reputable seller from the bay (watch is on the way). I'm not an expert, but I just find it odd that in the seller's pics, that in the best frontal pics, the '660ft' is blocked by the hour hand. BTW in the Singapore context, those 'RSC papers' are usually just a S$90 receipt from Singapore RSC that they 'handled' the watch. They did not necessarily inspect it.

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