Still Clicking! - Update

[nsolga]

The good = 46 hours and 6 min. power reserve!

The bad = still clicking when trying to wind and it is fully unwound and run completely out of power!

SO - OFF TO RSC I GO! Damn it! Only had it now for 22 days of ownership till the first problem...

Well guys, I gave my Sub Date the test... After it was fully wound and as some may note (making a clicking sound whilst winding) having issues. I set it down at 12 midnight on Thursday night (Friday morning technically).

My Sub sat there untouched till tonight (Saturday) at 10:06pm when it stopped.

:cry ing:

[JJ Irani]

You may need a new mainspring.....although I fail to understand how a mainspring can break so soon!!

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Nick, 46 hours and 6 minutes PR is actually very good. Frankly, I don't think there is anything wrong with your Sub. But if you're worried, better send it to RSC for peace of mind.

[padi56]

Well that power reserve is fine anything from 40 to 48 hours is quite normal.And again I suspect the slight clicking noise is also normal just the sound of the winding gears.

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

You may need a new mainspring.....although I fail to understand how a mainspring can break so soon!!

And JJ if mainspring was broken would seriously doubt if it would run for 46 hours.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by padi56

Well that power reserve is fine anything from 40 to 48 hours is quite normal.And again I suspect the slight clicking noise is also normal just the sound of the winding gears.


And JJ if mainspring was broken would seriously doubt if it would run for 46 hours.

I agree....but I think I misinterpreted his second statement where he says he's trying to wind it but it's still out of power. Not sure what he's trying to convey by that statement!!

[mcubed]

Originally Posted by nsolga

The good = 46 hours and 6 min. power reserve!

The bad = still clicking when trying to wind and it is fully unwound and run completely out of power!

SO - OFF TO RSC I GO! Damn it! Only had it now for 22 days of ownership till the first problem...

Well guys, I gave my Sub Date the test... After it was fully wound and as some may note (making a clicking sound whilst winding) having issues. I set it down at 12 midnight on Thursday night (Friday morning technically).

My Sub sat there untouched till tonight (Saturday) at 10:06pm when it stopped.

:cry ing:

I am not sure what the problem is, my sub clicks too....

[Tools]

Originally Posted by mcubed

I am not sure what the problem is, my sub clicks too....

All my watches click when I wind them....

[seantk]

Originally Posted by Tools

All my watches click when I wind them....

Mine too! very faint, however it sounds normal to me

Sean

[OysterDavid]

I'm certainly not at the skill level of Vanessa or Ironstark, but, in fact, there is a component of the watch called the 'click', a piece of metal that engages with the ratchet wheel to keep tension on the mainspring barrel/mainspring when winding. It's the device that keeps the mainspring barrel from unwinding from the spring being wound. It kind of 'flutters' from gear to gear as the stem turns in the keyless works and indeed creates a clicking sound as the wheel advances from the crown wheel engaging the ratchet wheel which engages the click component.

The question would be how loud the sound is, and if a watch owner has never paid attention to the volume, it might sound louder than it is.

Just my humble observation.

[nsolga]

When I bought the Sub from the AD, I wound it to get it started - I don't remember any resistance or clicking.

After nearly three weeks of checking accuracy (+1.8 sec daily!) I wanted to reset the time. Did that. Then, decided to give it a full wind. I noticed that it now has a bit of resistance and some clicking sound. More pronounced sound than if you try to wind in counter clockwise (as some have mentioned how this too makes a faint click sound).

Some suggested that this normal and others said it's a problem (even one member who lists he is a watchmaker). Those who said it's normal imply that if the watch is fully wound you hear the clutch kick in to keep from overwinding and when power is drained, it would not make that noise when winding. So, I let it run down (46 hr. 6 min PR!).

When trying to wind to get started again = same clicking noise.

Sorry for the long detail but, that's where it stands. Not sure if I need to take to RSC or not. Obviously at +1.8 sec. daily and 46 hr power res., I'm running fine....

But, if everyone else's makes a clicking sound when winding the watch then, maybe I'm fine.

Suggestions? Thoughts? Seriously, thanks to you all for the help with this! I'm glad I have a place to ask these questions.

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Nick, your Sub's fine! Don't take it to RSC.

You risk other issues by having it fixed, such as scratch marks on the caseback, dust under the crystal, fingerprints on the watch hands, etc. All has been known to happen, even at RSC.

If it ain't broken, don't fix it!

[Leighton]

Originally Posted by nsolga

When I bought the Sub from the AD, I wound it to get it started - I don't remember any resistance or clicking.

Just a thought, Nick. You say you "don't remember" hearing the click at the AD but later heard it at home. What was the sound level at the AD when you wound the watch? Was it different from the sound level at your home? Have you though of going back to the AD to wind the watch there and see what you hear?

Any way you could record the tick to a wav or mpg file?

[scottschoe]

Clicking seems normal to me.

[mcubed]

I don't wind my Rolex that often, but I remember when did wind it, that the Rolex winding sound is very mechanical and "clicky" , not like a miyota movement which sort of "Whirrs".

When I got to the full winds I think I felt an "extra click"

[nsolga]

I'll try to make a movie and post it to my vimeo.com page (great for uploading video)!

Probably will be in about an hour

I tending to agree with Bo though at this point... Could be worse and seems everyone hears this clicking I hear.

[nsolga]

For Leighton and others:
I took a video of my Sub while manually winding. You can hear the faint clicking when I hold he Sub direction up to the mic on the camera. This makes it sound a bit louder than normal since it's directly on the mic.

[Genevapics]

... I just bought my Submariner (14060M) this past Friday... it's my first Rolex. Let me say that my watch makes the exact same sound. When I wind it going forward, there is a little resistance and that same clicking sound. When I wind it in reverse, I hear the same sound, only softer and maybe in a slight higher pitch.

I am a NOOB to Rolex's, but I do not think there is anything wrong with your watch.

If I may make a suggestion, take the watch to a different AD or a good Rolex watchmaker and have them listen to it. I am sure they will say the same thing. Good luck.

[JBat]

Originally Posted by nsolga

For Leighton and others:
I took a video of my Sub while manually winding. You can hear the faint clicking when I hold he Sub direction up to the mic on the camera. This makes it sound a bit louder than normal since it's directly on the mic.

It sounds fine to me, Nick. Based on how your watch is running and its power reserve, I'd be willing to bet it's okay. Just my two bits worth.

[mcubed]

Originally Posted by nsolga

For Leighton and others:
I took a video of my Sub while manually winding. You can hear the faint clicking when I hold he Sub direction up to the mic on the camera. This makes it sound a bit louder than normal since it's directly on the mic.

Yep,
just like mine....

[roadcarver]

Yep, same as how my Sea-Dweller sounds.

[robbyrolex]

It sounds okay and the power reserve as well as the time accuracy bodes well for a fine piece of equipment.

[Leighton]

Originally Posted by nsolga

For Leighton and others:
I took a video of my Sub while manually winding. You can hear the faint clicking when I hold he Sub direction up to the mic on the camera. This makes it sound a bit louder than normal since it's directly on the mic.

Sounds fine to me, Nick. My GMT II-c sounds similar, a very faint cicking sound. I'd say don't worry. Wear it and enjoy it. By the way, nice looking watch. man!

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Originally Posted by nsolga

For Leighton and others:
I took a video of my Sub while manually winding. You can hear the faint clicking when I hold he Sub direction up to the mic on the camera. This makes it sound a bit louder than normal since it's directly on the mic.

Pray tell? Do you by any chance have a rattle snake in that bathroom of yours??



Your Sub Date sounds just fine to me!

[scottschoe]

Seems normal to me (video).

[abigsecret]

I love the video! So cute how you're worried about your watch!

[Vanessa CW21]

Hi Nick

I think your watch is fine... It would be easier to judge if I could actually feel it
The clicking noise, like stated earlier by OysterDavid, when winding forward is the "click" you hear, going from tooth to tooth on the ratchet wheel. The clicking noise you hear when you wind backwards, is the disengaging of the clutch with the winding pinion. Which is also normal. Now it is possible that if those wheels would receive a little more lubrication that the clicking sound could be reduced, but it would still be there!
Like suggested, take it to an authorised watchmaker first before you make drastic decisions.

[Ironstark]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Hi Nick

I think your watch is fine... It would be easier to judge if I could actually feel it
The clicking noise, like stated earlier by OysterDavid, when winding forward is the "click" you hear, going from tooth to tooth on the ratchet wheel. The clicking noise you hear when you wind backwards, is the disengaging of the clutch with the winding pinion. Which is also normal. Now it is possible that if those wheels would receive a little more lubrication that the clicking sound could be reduced, but it would still be there!

As Vanessa has said (and others) it sounds normal and like there is nothing to worry about. Your power reserve at 46 hrs is within tolerance and so is the watch`s accuracy.
When fully wound (and while manually winding) the mainspring will slip in the barrel from one notch in the barrel wall to another (there are 5 notches on the inside of the barrel wall) in order to prevent it becomming overwound.
Don`t forget also that when you manually wind you are causing the reversing wheels (the wheels which are in mesh with the rotor weight and the driving wheel for the rachet wheel) in the automatic device to freewheel/rachet which will also add a little resistance and another slight clicking sound to the mix.
All appears normal from your description. Just think of it as a chacteristic of the design and construction of a Rolex!

[roadcarver]

The man has spoken

Hope this gives you some peace, Nick.

Originally Posted by Ironstark

As Vanessa has said (and others) it sounds normal and like there is nothing to worry about. Your power reserve at 46 hrs is within tolerance and so is the watch`s accuracy.
When fully wound (and while manually winding) the mainspring will slip in the barrel from one notch in the barrel wall to another (there are 5 notches on the inside of the barrel wall) in order to prevent it becomming overwound.
Don`t forget also that when you manually wind you are causing the reversing wheels (the wheels which are in mesh with the rotor weight and the driving wheel for the rachet wheel) in the automatic device to freewheel/rachet which will also add a little resistance and another slight clicking sound to the mix.
All appears normal from your description. Just think of it as a chacteristic of the design and construction of a Rolex!

[Vanessa CW21]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

The man has spoken

Hope this gives you some peace, Nick.

So uhm..... I guess a professional "woman's" opinion doesn't count?

[Leighton]

Like Ron Popeil says in his infomercial..... Just set it and ........ FORGET IT !!!!!