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Old 22 June 2013, 12:57 AM   #1
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is Tudor worth it?

The more I see the Tudor Heritage Chronograph the more I like it.
BUT I can't get it out of my head that it has an ETA movement and is not a Rolex. It costs about HALF what a Rolex costs but I keep thinking that I could use that money toward a Rolex.
I feel like I'd be wasting my money on something that just looks kind of cool. I could spend WAY less and get a watch with a ETA.

Convince me otherwise. Please!
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Old 22 June 2013, 12:59 AM   #2
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with an ETA. Being an Omega owner, you're well aware of that. If you like the design, then go or it. If you still hunger for another Rolex, then get that instead. You'll eventually get over any price/value perception and just get what you like.
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Old 23 June 2013, 12:53 AM   #3
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with an ETA. Being an Omega owner, you're well aware of that. If you like the design, then go or it. If you still hunger for another Rolex, then get that instead. You'll eventually get over any price/value perception and just get what you like.
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Old 22 June 2013, 01:00 AM   #4
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Old 22 June 2013, 01:02 AM   #5
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flame suit on.. :) i personally think there are better eta movt based watches out there for the money. or for that fact in house if you count the planet ocean 8500, omega and what they can actually be had for.
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Old 22 June 2013, 01:03 AM   #6
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The more I see the Tudor Heritage Chronograph the more I like it.
BUT I can't get it out of my head that it has an ETA movement and is not a Rolex. It costs about HALF what a Rolex costs but I keep thinking that I could use that money toward a Rolex.
I feel like I'd be wasting my money on something that just looks kind of cool. I could spend WAY less and get a watch with a ETA.

Convince me otherwise. Please!
Is it worth it yes, is it a great watch yes. Do you want a Rolex, then no
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Old 22 June 2013, 01:06 AM   #7
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To many, Tudor is well worth it. To some, it's not. If you have to be convinced Tudor might not be for you.
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Old 22 June 2013, 01:09 AM   #8
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The more I see the Tudor Heritage Chronograph the more I like it.
BUT I can't get it out of my head that it has an ETA movement and is not a Rolex. It costs about HALF what a Rolex costs but I keep thinking that I could use that money toward a Rolex.
I feel like I'd be wasting my money on something that just looks kind of cool. I could spend WAY less and get a watch with a ETA.

Convince me otherwise. Please!
I know others don't mind, but the modular chronograph bothers me a lot more than the fact that it's sourced from ETA. It's a nice Swiss watch made with a high quality case, bracelet and clasp. Similar watches aren't cheaper. The vastly cheaper watches are ETA movements housed in standard off the shelf catalog cases. Try to find a Tudor case in the Fricker catalog.
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Old 22 June 2013, 01:18 AM   #9
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The most accurate watch that I've ever owned had an ETA movement. I'd love to own a Tudor someday.
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Old 22 June 2013, 01:18 AM   #10
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Forgive me; does "modular chrono" mean it's a chronograph add-on and not a true Chrono movement?

I really like Chrono's, which is why I bought my Speedy, and a reason why I like the THC. But I also like the Zenith El Primero and the Daytona, two watches I DO NOT own but are double and triple the price of a THC. So, is the THC half the watch of the Zenith or a third the watch of a Daytona.
Or is it an amazing bargain watch like the Speedmaster 3570?
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Old 22 June 2013, 01:24 AM   #11
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Forgive me; does "modular chrono" mean it's a chronograph add-on and not a true Chrono movement?
That's exactly what it means. The chronograph function is added on to a base movement as a separate module. Many people don't care about this distinction, however it's a negative in my eyes. The alternative would be an "integrated chronograph" - like what's in the Daytona and Speedmaster Pro.

FWIW I don't think this Tudor is the sort of bargain that a Speedy is. It's a nice watch and it's priced fairly.
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Old 22 June 2013, 01:35 AM   #12
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The more I see the Tudor Heritage Chronograph the more I like it.
BUT I can't get it out of my head that it has an ETA movement and is not a Rolex. It costs about HALF what a Rolex costs but I keep thinking that I could use that money toward a Rolex.
I feel like I'd be wasting my money on something that just looks kind of cool. I could spend WAY less and get a watch with a ETA.

Convince me otherwise. Please!
Look just because say a movement is so called in-house made it dont always mean that movement is better than say any ETA.Now ETA supply movement ebauches to many a high end brand yes they might rework and decorate them a bit. But if they were not fine movements in there own right I would doubt if they would use them.Now the Dubois-dépraz module in the all the main wheels are well over engineered and at least five times thicker and stronger than in most other normal chrono movements, plus all pushers, heart cams, and pivots are well over engineered. And the module finish work on all internal parts are too quite a high standard.IMHO even the polishing of heart cam sides for hammer function is excellent and to a very high standard of finish IMHO it is better than Rolex own movement finish.

So what this boils down too if they are properly serviced these modules will last a lifetime of usage.Don't assume all chrono modules are equal now these modules are quite expensive in there own right.So should be serviced with watchmakers who has the credentials and tools to service them, but sadly many today will not service them, but IMHO thats simply because they don't know how too.IMHO you are looking at an well over engineered chrono module for a wristwatch. But if a say local watchmaker takes your module apart and damages a part, he will have trouble getting it from the manufacturer.These Dubois-dépraz module need precise oiling,plus wheel height and jewel adjustments.Plus the end shake of wheel adjustments and of course the driving wheel seating position from the excellent well respected and extremely accurate base ETA 2892 calibre. Now this gear must mesh to the module properly, and this can be a very tedious task to do if you are not skilled with the module.

Now this is one of the main reasons why they have a bad name with some in the watch service industry not because they are a bad chrono module. Its because they need proper care and service with the correct oils and grease etc.IMHO its a fine chrono module with the excellent ETA 2892 and cannot see any reason with proper service to last a life time and beyond, myself would have no problem buying one.And I would not think that Rolex would have put this combination, into any Rolex Tudor watch if they thought it would ever be a problem movement and did not have the skills to service them or have the parts for many many years to come..
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Old 22 June 2013, 01:43 AM   #13
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Tudors not for you. Move on please.
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In reply, I have owned in the past two new and one pre-loved Rolex watches. I only own one Rolex/Tudor at-a-time. Currently, I own a Tudor Submariner. I am very pleased with the accuracy and toughness of this watch. It would not take a back seat to any watch I have ever owned or see myself owning (as I cannot "or will not" afford a Patek, AP, etc.).

Tudor is a great watch. Wear the watch and not the brand OR simply buy the little brand emblem on the face of the watch and be happy with that.

Best to you and your decision. Post your purchase when it is done!
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Old 22 June 2013, 02:23 AM   #15
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I'm not sure an " in house Rolex movement is that much better than the ETA...
It wouldn't dissuade me from getting a Tudor because of the movement..
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For some reason many ETA movements have the stigma of being a cheap quality watch movement. Probably because they do mass produce(the lesser quality ones) them and many watches which use their movements sell in price points which cost less. But too me, there is a reason why many high quality watch brands use their better quality movements in their watches which sell for higher prices.....

As Padi has stated, as long as "Qualified Watchmakers" have access to genuine replacement components and all the proper oils, grease and necessary tools...and service and maintenance is done at the proper intervals there should never be any problems. And you will be able to give/pass your watch to your children and they will outlast all of us!!!

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Old 22 June 2013, 02:36 AM   #17
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I don't really think ETA is bad quality ... I'm just wondering if it and the rest of the watch is worth the price.
I could probably get a watch with an ETA for far less money. I see watches with all the same parts just with different logos and names and vastly different prices.

JP Chestnut said that everything else on the watch is not available in a generic parts catalog and is Tudor only. Which I find very appealing.
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I don't really think ETA is bad quality ... I'm just wondering if it and the rest of the watch is worth the price.
I could probably get a watch with an ETA for far less money. I see watches with all the same parts just with different logos and names and vastly different prices.

JP Chestnut said that everything else on the watch is not available in a generic parts catalog and is Tudor only. Which I find very appealing.
You also have to consider there are 5 grades of ETA ebauches. Which is one reason you see a variance in prices. Tudor uses the highest chronometer grade movements.
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For some reason many ETA movements have the stigma of being a cheap quality watch movement. Probably because they do mass produce(the lesser quality ones) them and many watches which use their movements sell in price points which cost less. But too me, there is a reason why many high quality watch brands use their better quality movements in their watches which sell for higher prices.....

As Padi has stated, as long as "Qualified Watchmakers" have access to genuine replacement components and all the proper oils, grease and necessary tools...and service and maintenance is done at the proper intervals there should never be any problems. And you will be able to give/pass your watch to your children and they will outlast all of us!!!

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Agree Leo but although Rolex is built in-house its just mass produced much like movements form ETA.
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You also have to consider there are 5 grades of ETA ebauches. Which is one reason you see a variance in prices. Tudor uses the highest chronometer grade movements.
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Dan afraid some will never learn yes you can get ETA powered watches at quite different prices with say the ETA 2824.Now the price for the base 2824 is nothing like the price for what Tudor and many high ends brands use like the ETA 2824-2T chronometer grade.And today in proportion to movements sent to the COSC for testing the ETA 2824-2T, ETA 2892/3 and Valjoux 7750/1 have one of the highest first time pass rates at the COSC and all built in-house by ETA.
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I don't really think ETA is bad quality ... I'm just wondering if it and the rest of the watch is worth the price.
I could probably get a watch with an ETA for far less money. I see watches with all the same parts just with different logos and names and vastly different prices.

JP Chestnut said that everything else on the watch is not available in a generic parts catalog and is Tudor only. Which I find very appealing.
You are dwelling on the wrong things...

The Tudor cache and reputation is what you are paying for, trusting that the Rolex spec'ed and modified movement is of the quality you would expect. It is NOT simply an ETA movement with Tudor painted on the dial.

You might ask Omega, Breitling, Ulysse Nardin, any Valjoux 7750 Chronograph owner, Breguet, Tissot, or Longines (and dozens of others) how they like their ETA powered watch and you may get from puzzled looks all the way to a fightin' stance answer...
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The more I see the Tudor Heritage Chronograph the more I like it.
BUT I can't get it out of my head that it has an ETA movement and is not a Rolex. It costs about HALF what a Rolex costs but I keep thinking that I could use that money toward a Rolex.
I feel like I'd be wasting my money on something that just looks kind of cool. I could spend WAY less and get a watch with a ETA.

Convince me otherwise. Please!
I can't.

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I can't.

Buy what you like and want to wear, not what you can rationalize.
This is a good point. There's zero rational reason to own a mutli-thousand dollar watch. I do it because I love them. There's simply no other reason,.
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The more I see the Tudor Heritage Chronograph the more I like it.
BUT I can't get it out of my head that it has an ETA movement and is not a Rolex. It costs about HALF what a Rolex costs but I keep thinking that I could use that money toward a Rolex.
I feel like I'd be wasting my money on something that just looks kind of cool. I could spend WAY less and get a watch with a ETA.

Convince me otherwise. Please!
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I have a Tudor Black Bay and coming from two other Rolex's its a nice quality watch.
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I own Rolex Subs, and seadwellers and just picked up a Tudor Pelagos. I do not regret it one bit. Titanium construction that looks more like brushed SS, He escape valve and top quality construction for half the cost of a new sub. Now, I want the black bay.
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Is it worth it? Absolutely. Are you going to be able to get those thoughts out of your head? Probably not. Should probably move on to something else, IMO of course
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Be true to yourself. On the outside looking in, seems there's already some anti-Tudor sentiment...
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Black Bay is on my short list, wishing it had a date feature though., it would be the perfect underwater beach vacation watch with the vintage strap...price point is perfect, for me .
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