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Old 25 July 2013, 12:12 PM   #1
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Explorer 214270 questions

I was so looking forward to buying a new 39mm 214270 Explorer but when I tried one one I was frankly disappointed , for a couple of reasons and would appreciate any comments:
1) The clasp whilst feeling more "solid" than the older type has limited adjustment possibilities.
If the band is too tight or too loose removing or adding one link can be too much and it doesn't have the small adjustment possibilities that the old clasp has. If its too tight or too loose ,then you are just stuck with it. Pulling out the 1/ 2 link may not be enough and looks kinda weird. Am I missing something here?
2) The big block case just looks too big and an artificial way of making the watch look bigger on the wrist . IMHO the smaller 36mm Explorer looks more "natural" and in proportion.
3) There seems to be too many sharp edges on the case and the band looks an awkward fit at the case. Just a bit ragged.

4 ) The small hour hand is not that bad , but it does seem like a "parts bin" kind of approach . I think it deserves a bit more thought.
Don tget me wrong I love the watch ..but these issues have me leaning towards the 114060 NO Date C Sub.

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Old 25 July 2013, 12:50 PM   #2
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The 36mm is the one to get anyway. A 14270 is what you need
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Old 25 July 2013, 01:14 PM   #3
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Simple answer...don't buy one, get the Sub ND.
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Old 25 July 2013, 01:16 PM   #4
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I disagree with all 4 of your points.

if there is any fault to be found it is in the minute hand being a tad short because they kept the same hands as the 36mm

however all around the 39MM Explorer is a beautiful watch
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Old 26 July 2013, 11:40 AM   #5
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....... because they kept the same hands as the 36mm..........
Ah no - Rolex didn't. They are different hands (fatter than the 36mm version) but still far too short IMHO....
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Old 25 July 2013, 01:27 PM   #6
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The bracelet does have micro adjustments. And i disagree with points 2, 3, and 4. I have this model and yeah it doesn't have the flash that other models have but that's mostly why I chose this watch. It's got all the things that I value in the brand. Maybe you should try it on again?
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Old 25 July 2013, 01:29 PM   #7
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I was so looking forward to buying a new 39mm 214270 Explorer but when I tried one one I was frankly disappointed , for a couple of reasons and would appreciate any comments:
1) The clasp whilst feeling more "solid" than the older type has limited adjustment possibilities.
If the band is too tight or too loose removing or adding one link can be too much and it doesn't have the small adjustment possibilities that the old clasp has. If its too tight or too loose ,then you are just stuck with it. Pulling out the 1/ 2 link may not be enough and looks kinda weird. Am I missing something here?
There are 3 micro adjustments inside the clasp, not sure if you saw these... You ought to be able to get a good fit without adding/removing links assuming you are "close" with the number of links to start. The half link is more for hot/cold wrist change during the day. Although I think the 1/2 link (easylink) is too big of an adjustment.
2) The big block case just looks too big and an artificial way of making the watch look bigger on the wrist . IMHO the smaller 36mm Explorer looks more "natural" and in proportion.
The dial was increased in size as well, I feel this watch still looks proportional, certainly more so than the other modern Rolex sports model. IMHO
3) There seems to be too many sharp edges on the case and the band looks an awkward fit at the case. Just a bit ragged.
All the modern sport watches on bracelet look a little awkward to me when not on the wrist. While they seem to look fine when worn
4 ) The small hour hand is not that bad , but it does seem like a "parts bin" kind of approach . I think it deserves a bit more thought.
Don tget me wrong I love the watch ..but these issues have me leaning towards the 114060 NO Date C Sub.

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Old 25 July 2013, 01:30 PM   #8
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Old 25 July 2013, 02:46 PM   #9
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sounds like you should move on...
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Old 25 July 2013, 03:29 PM   #10
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I disagree with the above statement, I think your closest options to explore1. Are the following:
Sub ceramic no date, or milligauss the black dial.
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Old 26 July 2013, 07:24 AM   #11
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Hi Knoffie,
Ehm... We are in the same boat.. I bought the Exp 1 39mm in december 2010 probably following too much my "I want a Rolex!!" mood and at that time I was in love with it..Then wearing and wearing and wearing it simply your points 1 and 2 came to reality.. I flipped it in and now I bought a 114060... I simply love this Sub!! Exp simply wasn't my watch.. It took some time but at the end I arrived to the conclusion of your point 1 and 2 !

Get the Sub 114060, now!!!
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Old 26 July 2013, 07:33 AM   #12
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sub ceramic sucks mainly because The case is a big square (its hard to get pass that Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1374788013.187770.jpg
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get 214270. 36mm is too small mind as well buy airking
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Old 26 July 2013, 10:41 AM   #13
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Thanks everyone for your helpful comments, even those which disagreed with me. That's the fantastic thing about this Forum. We are all learning and sharing our opinions and views. I will think through all your comments this week

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Old 26 July 2013, 11:38 AM   #14
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Get the sub...
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Old 26 July 2013, 11:52 AM   #15
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You made your choice. Move on.

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Old 26 July 2013, 05:12 PM   #16
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Get the sub..... ;)

I've been there....... Sub forever!

Have a great weekend amazing Rolex Forum!!!! This place is great!! Pure Passion.
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Old 27 July 2013, 12:33 AM   #17
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Looking forward to hear your decision. I got a 39mm and I will be I unboxing her today!
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Old 27 July 2013, 12:55 AM   #18
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Get what looks best on your wrist and feels most comfortable. There is so much I like about the No Date Sub (great looking watch, something special about it) but the Explorer looks better on my 6.75" wrist. If you try both on at the same store the answer may be clear.

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Old 27 July 2013, 09:53 AM   #19
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A black dial 42mm Explorer II followed me home today and I am very happy. On my wrist it seems to work well enough (matter of taste, I admit) and the size is otherwise attractive. It complements my white dial DJ II which permits nice change offs. Should the wrist size not work out perfectly, my AD I one of the best around and will surely make it right.
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Old 27 July 2013, 12:08 PM   #20
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There's always that perfect Rolex for everyone, the Exp 1 may not be for you. No worries! Just get which one you will be happy with. Beauty and comfort is highly subjective... Different strokes for different folks!
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Old 27 July 2013, 12:16 PM   #21
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Buy what you like but dont talk down on what doesnt suit your taste, somebody else here with us might have the explorer and think the world of it and be proud.
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Old 27 July 2013, 12:25 PM   #22
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I was so looking forward to buying a new 39mm 214270 Explorer but when I tried one one I was frankly disappointed , for a couple of reasons and would appreciate any comments:
1) The clasp whilst feeling more "solid" than the older type has limited adjustment possibilities.
If the band is too tight or too loose removing or adding one link can be too much and it doesn't have the small adjustment possibilities that the old clasp has. If its too tight or too loose ,then you are just stuck with it. Pulling out the 1/ 2 link may not be enough and looks kinda weird. Am I missing something here?
2) The big block case just looks too big and an artificial way of making the watch look bigger on the wrist . IMHO the smaller 36mm Explorer looks more "natural" and in proportion.
3) There seems to be too many sharp edges on the case and the band looks an awkward fit at the case. Just a bit ragged.

4 ) The small hour hand is not that bad , but it does seem like a "parts bin" kind of approach . I think it deserves a bit more thought.
Don tget me wrong I love the watch ..but these issues have me leaning towards the 114060 NO Date C Sub.

Thoughts??

Knoffie
I agree fully with you...go for the ND.
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Old 27 July 2013, 12:38 PM   #23
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I have the 39mm Explorer 1 and love it. Simple, understated, but elegant. A pure timepiece.

I liked the older model, too, but opted for the 39mm because the 36 seemed a tad small. For me, 39mm-40mm is ideal.

But, to each his own. The 36 is a classic,as is the Sub. No wrong choices here.
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Old 7 August 2013, 07:09 PM   #24
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I have both the Exp I 39mm and SubC Date...


I love both to say the least.



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Old 8 August 2013, 12:06 AM   #25
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brilliant comparison! both watches make a statement, but in very very different ways. the comparison really sums up the 214270 IMO.

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I have both the Exp I 39mm and SubC Date...


I love both to say the least.



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Old 15 August 2013, 05:52 AM   #27
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If you are looking to buy 214270, I am selling one thats only 3 months old , mint and complete, here are picsName:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1376509890.368964.jpg
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