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Check · 28 July 2013, 06:45 AM

I wanted to run this by all of you here on TRF...

Should I trade my 50th anniversary Sub for a Sub C ND? I really like the maxi dial on both watches A LOT. I'm indifferent to the ceramic bezel insert (I actually like the aluminum insert better for swapping out different colors).

I have always liked the clean symmetrical look of the ND, but the dial markers and hands on the 14060M just looked too small to me. The glide lock clasp seems, from a comfort perspective alone, to be extremely comfortable as opposed to the tuna clasp bracelet. Finally, the blue lume just looks really cool.

I think the super-sized case would take some getting used to, but after reading this review: http://100percent-rolex.blogspot.nl/...60-review.html and this wear test review: http://100percent-rolex.blogspot.nl/...t-to-test.html I think it actually looks really good and very retro (1950s retro).

I'd be interested in getting your opinions on this and also to see whether the consensus out there is that I would have to put money in the deal or not.

Thanks in advance!

Matt

mjclark32 · 28 July 2013, 06:46 AM

I wouldn't. The LV gives the best of both worlds, IMO.

impalass · 28 July 2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mjclark32

I wouldn't. The LV gives the best of both worlds, IMO.

Rashid.bk · 28 July 2013, 06:50 AM

Hahaha, you got me, thought you were serious, nice one. Sounded like you said an LV for a Sub.....wait.....ok it's saturday night. Are you drunk.

All kidding aside, No.

mailman · 28 July 2013, 06:53 AM

No. Keep the LV and save for the ND Sub if you are a two watch guy.

Check · 28 July 2013, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mailman

No. Keep the LV and save for the ND Sub if you are a two watch guy.

So far I'm just a one watch guy, but if I get a 2d one, I totally agree with you.

datejust24 · 28 July 2013, 06:52 AM

I love the no date sub but I probably wouldn't do that

HL65 · 28 July 2013, 06:57 AM

Nope

improviz · 28 July 2013, 07:14 AM

A resounding "Hell no!"...

ufboy73 · 28 July 2013, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by improviz

A resounding "Hell no!"...

haha, actually what i was going to say - 'awww, hell no'

rolex75216 · 28 July 2013, 07:20 AM

I think your 16610LV is pretty special. I would hang on to it.

Billywiz · 28 July 2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rolex75216

I think your 16610LV is pretty special. I would hang on to it.

Totally agree...keeeeep!

Steelgold · 29 July 2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rolex75216

i think your 16610lv is pretty special. I would hang on to it.

x2

ufboy73 · 28 July 2013, 07:24 AM

hmmm, that is a pretty interesting analysis, arguing for the proportions of the vintage sub...i wonder if there is something to that??

reecester · 28 July 2013, 07:25 AM

Keep the LV.

Check · 28 July 2013, 07:27 AM

Thanks guys.

I'm getting the sense that the overwhelming consensus is to keep it. Maybe I should look into getting the new bracelet instead because that i really what would make this perfect to me from a wearability perspective.

Thanks again!

subtona · 28 July 2013, 07:27 AM

Imho ABSOLUTELY......................

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ps same answer for even considering putting on the newer (not better) bracelet.

Cheers

Pps as an alternative idea, in search of a clean look, I did let my LV & 14060M go while keeping my only remaining rotating Bezeled Diver, the 16600SD

psv · 28 July 2013, 07:27 AM

Never. If you want a new look for the 16610LV, remove the cyclops. Then you have the best of both worlds.

I tried to get along with my SubC ND but the maxi case just kills it for me.

improviz · 28 July 2013, 07:30 AM

Have you gotten a black bezel insert for your LV? Gives you a bit of variety at minimal cost...

Check · 28 July 2013, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by improviz

Have you gotten a black bezel insert for your LV? Gives you a bit of variety at minimal cost...

Yes. In fact I have only worn it with a black insert because I really like its versatility more than the green insert.

improviz · 28 July 2013, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Check

Yes. In fact I have only worn it with a black insert because I really like its versatility more than the green insert.

No argument from me there!

tfduff723 · 28 July 2013, 07:36 AM

N..........O!

Hold on to that LV. It is the best of both worlds. Classic proportions, maxi dial, flexibility to change the bezel insert to black if you desire, rock solid reliability, etc...

I had a Sub C, sold it and bought an LV. I have never looked back. Don't get me wrong - the Sub C date or no date is a great watch. A matter of style & taste to me.

I do agree with you about the glidelock bracelet but if you really want to you can always add one. Not cheap....but possible. I did.

Last point - the LV does have somewhat more of a collectibility "cache" given that it now one of Rolex's more recent discontinued models. Others include the Exp II 16570 and the GMT Master II 16710.

anothernewphone · 28 July 2013, 08:25 AM

A maxi dial with the black bezel is like the best of both worlds If you already have both the green and black bezels, I'd say keep it.

JorgeCCW · 28 July 2013, 08:36 AM

I wouldn't, I need the date. I can see the upgrade on the bracelet and bezel, it also has a more solid feel but the Kermit is a classic. So if it is in very good condition keep it. I would trade it if the condition is under very good condition though.

_____________________________
Jorge

PP Annual Calendar 5146G, PP Nautilus 5712, ALS Saxonia Thin 211.032, AP Royal Oak 15300, VC Chrono "Deep Stream", Breguet Marine Big Date, JLC Memovox, Rolex DJII 116334 rhodium/arabic, Rolex Submariner Date 116610 LV, Rolex Explorer II 216570 "Polar", Panerai PAM0372, Breitling Professional Airwolf

koc · 28 July 2013, 08:58 AM

No no no, the LV is a unique timepiece .

alubin · 28 July 2013, 09:12 AM

I have a sub-c and still no.

Armyguy03 · 28 July 2013, 09:15 AM

n o p e

Kiddodoc · 28 July 2013, 09:44 AM

No freaking way!

Urosfan · 28 July 2013, 09:59 AM

Keep lv no trade

LA_LEC · 28 July 2013, 10:01 AM

Is this a serious question? Keep the LV...you are lucky to have one actually!

28 July 2013, 06:45 AM	#1
Check 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Matt Vera Location: So Cal Watch: Explorer (124270) Posts: 314	Should I trade a Sub LV (16610LV) for a 114060 Sub ND? I wanted to run this by all of you here on TRF... Should I trade my 50th anniversary Sub for a Sub C ND? I really like the maxi dial on both watches A LOT. I'm indifferent to the ceramic bezel insert (I actually like the aluminum insert better for swapping out different colors). I have always liked the clean symmetrical look of the ND, but the dial markers and hands on the 14060M just looked too small to me. The glide lock clasp seems, from a comfort perspective alone, to be extremely comfortable as opposed to the tuna clasp bracelet. Finally, the blue lume just looks really cool. I think the super-sized case would take some getting used to, but after reading this review: http://100percent-rolex.blogspot.nl/...60-review.html and this wear test review: http://100percent-rolex.blogspot.nl/...t-to-test.html I think it actually looks really good and very retro (1950s retro). I'd be interested in getting your opinions on this and also to see whether the consensus out there is that I would have to put money in the deal or not. Thanks in advance! Matt

28 July 2013, 06:46 AM	#2
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	I wouldn't. The LV gives the best of both worlds, IMO. __________________

28 July 2013, 06:53 AM	#5
mailman TRF Moderator & SubLV41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,510	No. Keep the LV and save for the ND Sub if you are a two watch guy. __________________ JJ

28 July 2013, 06:57 AM	#8
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,008	Nope __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

28 July 2013, 07:14 AM	#9
improviz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tejas Watch: your step Posts: 2,806	A resounding "Hell no!"... __________________ 116520 white; 16613 black; 116710; 16570 polar; 16600. AP 15400; 15703. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Glashutte Sport Evo GMT. Omega Planet Ocean 2907.50.91; Planet Ocean Liquidmetal LE 222.30.42.20.01.001; Seamaster 2255.80.00. Breitling Crosswind, white. Panerai PAM 005. VC Overseas Chrono, black.

28 July 2013, 06:50 AM	#4
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,173	Hahaha, you got me, thought you were serious, nice one. Sounded like you said an LV for a Sub.....wait.....ok it's saturday night. Are you drunk. All kidding aside, No.

28 July 2013, 06:52 AM	#7
datejust24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Watch: Rolexssss Posts: 3,504	I love the no date sub but I probably wouldn't do that

28 July 2013, 07:20 AM	#11
rolex75216 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 2,008	I think your 16610LV is pretty special. I would hang on to it.

28 July 2013, 07:24 AM	#14
ufboy73 Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,601	hmmm, that is a pretty interesting analysis, arguing for the proportions of the vintage sub...i wonder if there is something to that??

28 July 2013, 07:25 AM	#15
reecester "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New York Posts: 401	Keep the LV.

28 July 2013, 07:27 AM	#16
Check 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Matt Vera Location: So Cal Watch: Explorer (124270) Posts: 314	Thanks guys. I'm getting the sense that the overwhelming consensus is to keep it. Maybe I should look into getting the new bracelet instead because that i really what would make this perfect to me from a wearability perspective. Thanks again!

28 July 2013, 07:27 AM	#17
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,599	Imho ABSOLUTELY...................... NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ps same answer for even considering putting on the newer (not better) bracelet. Cheers Pps as an alternative idea, in search of a clean look, I did let my LV & 14060M go while keeping my only remaining rotating Bezeled Diver, the 16600SD __________________

28 July 2013, 07:27 AM	#18
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	Never. If you want a new look for the 16610LV, remove the cyclops. Then you have the best of both worlds. I tried to get along with my SubC ND but the maxi case just kills it for me.

28 July 2013, 07:30 AM	#19
improviz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tejas Watch: your step Posts: 2,806	Have you gotten a black bezel insert for your LV? Gives you a bit of variety at minimal cost... __________________ 116520 white; 16613 black; 116710; 16570 polar; 16600. AP 15400; 15703. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Glashutte Sport Evo GMT. Omega Planet Ocean 2907.50.91; Planet Ocean Liquidmetal LE 222.30.42.20.01.001; Seamaster 2255.80.00. Breitling Crosswind, white. Panerai PAM 005. VC Overseas Chrono, black.

28 July 2013, 07:36 AM	#22
tfduff723 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Michigan USA Watch: Rolex & Omega 4 Me Posts: 1,685	N..........O! Hold on to that LV. It is the best of both worlds. Classic proportions, maxi dial, flexibility to change the bezel insert to black if you desire, rock solid reliability, etc... I had a Sub C, sold it and bought an LV. I have never looked back. Don't get me wrong - the Sub C date or no date is a great watch. A matter of style & taste to me. I do agree with you about the glidelock bracelet but if you really want to you can always add one. Not cheap....but possible. I did. Last point - the LV does have somewhat more of a collectibility "cache" given that it now one of Rolex's more recent discontinued models. Others include the Exp II 16570 and the GMT Master II 16710.

28 July 2013, 08:25 AM	#23
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	A maxi dial with the black bezel is like the best of both worlds If you already have both the green and black bezels, I'd say keep it.

28 July 2013, 08:36 AM	#24
JorgeCCW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Jorge Location: Ohio, USA Watch: Rolex,Patek and AP Posts: 4,707	I wouldn't, I need the date. I can see the upgrade on the bracelet and bezel, it also has a more solid feel but the Kermit is a classic. So if it is in very good condition keep it. I would trade it if the condition is under very good condition though. _____________________________ Jorge PP Annual Calendar 5146G, PP Nautilus 5712, ALS Saxonia Thin 211.032, AP Royal Oak 15300, VC Chrono "Deep Stream", Breguet Marine Big Date, JLC Memovox, Rolex DJII 116334 rhodium/arabic, Rolex Submariner Date 116610 LV, Rolex Explorer II 216570 "Polar", Panerai PAM0372, Breitling Professional Airwolf __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nothing happens until something moves " Albert Einstein

28 July 2013, 08:58 AM	#25
koc "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: emad Location: Kuwait Watch: LV-PAM312-214270 Posts: 252	No no no, the LV is a unique timepiece .

28 July 2013, 09:12 AM	#26
alubin "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Watch: All please! Posts: 1,042	I have a sub-c and still no.

28 July 2013, 09:15 AM	#27
Armyguy03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: DM[V] Watch: 16710 \| 16600 Posts: 3,546	n o p e __________________ Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

28 July 2013, 09:44 AM	#28
Kiddodoc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Rick Location: Texas Watch: 15 and counting! Posts: 3,531	No freaking way!

28 July 2013, 09:59 AM	#29
Urosfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Watch: Me now Posts: 19,372	Keep lv no trade

28 July 2013, 10:01 AM	#30
LA_LEC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,793	Is this a serious question? Keep the LV...you are lucky to have one actually! __________________ 16610 ♛ 16610LV ♛ 214270 MK2 "Life is far too short not to wear a Rolex!"

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