No more Invictas wanted here

[JIM-]

Will never buy another.

[dman]

I don't disagree, but what happened?

[JIM-]

If I go into the long story I'd be a basher, and I may do that later. So let me just say this QUALITY is greatly lacking.

[dman]

Fair enough!! But you are not breaking any big news with that.

[JIM-]

Yea I know just wanted to vent my feelings. I've bought and sold just about every Prodiver there is and not one has made me want to keep it. Its always something with those.

[Rockrolex]

I wouldn't want to say, Glad you finally saw the light, Jim, so I won't say it.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by JIM

Will never buy another.

So I guess you beat the living sh!t out of it, uh?

[Gedanken]

Uh, not to state it too obviously, but go and see the watch in person, and if you're happy with it, pony up. Otherwise, forget it. Doesn't get any simpler than that.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Uh, not to state it too obviously, but go and see the watch in person, and if you're happy with it, pony up. Otherwise, forget it. Doesn't get any simpler than that.

...and that's exactly the SAME BLOODY TUNE I've been singing to Mathew all this time....just check out the watch BEFORE you put down the cash...it's as easy as that. Take all the time in the world you have to at the AD. I do it every bloody time....works for me (after I had that one bad experience last year with the white Exp-II).

JJ

[MathewJ]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

...and that's exactly the SAME BLOODY TUNE I've been singing to Mathew all this time....just check out the watch BEFORE you put down the cash...it's as easy as that. Take all the time in the world you have to at the AD. I do it every bloody time....works for me (after I had that one bad experience last year with the white Exp-II).

JJ

You can do this though and still end up with something, it isn't possible in my opinion to be as critical at a dealer as it is once it is in your hands...heck I looked my current watch over for upwards of 20 minutes in the dealer and thought I caught everything with it and didn't notice my issue until four months later as I was preoccupied with other things.

Should I buy another new watch, and if by chance it happens to be a Rolex I am buying from a place with a good return policy and not wearing it until I check it out until said return policy is up, then if I happen to miss something it is on me....my mistake was wearing the watch out of the store, should have just kept it in the box.

Is it groundhog day?

[Charlie]

Originally Posted by MathewJ

You can do this though and still end up with something, it isn't possible in my opinion to be as critical at a dealer as it is once it is in your hands...heck I looked my current watch over for upwards of 20 minutes in the dealer and thought I caught everything with it and didn't notice my issue until four months later as I was preoccupied with other things.

Should I buy another new watch, and if by chance it happens to be a Rolex I am buying from a place with a good return policy and not wearing it until I check it out until said return policy is up, then if I happen to miss something it is on me....my mistake was wearing the watch out of the store, should have just kept it in the box.

Mathew ,You sound just like my wife , she goes on and on and on and on....................

[MathewJ]

Originally Posted by Charlie

Mathew ,You sound just like my wife , she goes on and on and on and on....................

Maybe I have been reading on such forums for too long but I have seen this thread play out literally hundreds of times before, you will have someone come in and complain about the quality and or consistency of a budget brand like Invicta and the forum participants will proceed to rip said brand apart because they don't like the fact that some designs are serious copies of their favorites...yet when issues are mentioned surrounding their favorite brand they will give said company the free pass and suggest that people should scrutinize the pieces prior to purchase, justifying the companies lax quality control by citing yearly production figures, or the fact that others make mistakes as well, or that with mass production nothing is ever perfect...fact is the same or similar comments that are leveled against Invicta can be made against any brand including Rolex.

[Gedanken]

Matthew, don't tell me that you're simply answering posts when you're carrying on in your monotonous diatribes - that's classic passive-aggressiveness, and I'm not going to stand for it. I'll make it clear right here and now that if you persist with this pattern of behaviour, you will not be welcome here.

Before you start pontificating about Rolex naysayers being persecuted, I'm going to head you off by informing you that if I ban you, it'll not be because of anything you say about Rolex, but because I judge that you're hell-bent on spreading your dispositional unhappiness. Put simply, this place is like a pub - people are here to have fun, and I've got no problems escorting you to the door if you're making the customers unhappy.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Matthew, don't tell me that you're simply answering posts when you're carrying on in your monotonous diatribes - that's classic passive-aggressiveness, and I'm not going to stand for it. I'll make it clear right here and now that if you persist with this pattern of behaviour, you will not be welcome here.

Before you start pontificating about Rolex naysayers being persecuted, I'm going to head you off by informing you that if I ban you, it'll not be because of anything you say about Rolex, but because I judge that you're hell-bent on spreading your dispositional unhappiness. Put simply, this place is like a pub - people are here to have fun, and I've got no problems escorting you to the door if you're making the customers unhappy.

And I must agree with Gedanken on this matter,put simply Mathew think its time to change the well worn record,now and for good..

[JJ Irani]

My last post regarding this matter, Mathew.

Listen up, Mathew, I've known you a long time and I know for a fact that you're not a TROLL! Okay, given that fact, why not move on to the brighter side of things?

Come on, man, I've been wheeling and dealing with Rollies for so long and with 16 babies under my belt, I only ever had a problem just ONCE!! (last year with that white Expy). Other than that, I assure their quality control must be good.

My AD has made a personal tour of their facilities in Geneva and told me that one has to just see their multi-million dollar equipment to believe the QC they must carry out on their watches.

That said, I think we can now put an end to this never-ending debate and move on.

As I said, Mathew, I know you're NOT a troll....but it's almost like you're heading in that direction. Please just try and accomodate with the rest of us! Thank you.

Good cheer - JJ

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Matthew, don't tell me that you're simply answering posts when you're carrying on in your monotonous diatribes - that's classic passive-aggressiveness, and I'm not going to stand for it. I'll make it clear right here and now that if you persist with this pattern of behaviour, you will not be welcome here.

Before you start pontificating about Rolex naysayers being persecuted, I'm going to head you off by informing you that if I ban you, it'll not be because of anything you say about Rolex, but because I judge that you're hell-bent on spreading your dispositional unhappiness. Put simply, this place is like a pub - people are here to have fun, and I've got no problems escorting you to the door if you're making the customers unhappy.

Well said James. Most of us here know what the shortcomings of Rolex (or any brand for that matter) are, but WE CHOOSE NOT TO FOCUS ON IT!

I've tried to get this across to Mathew once before, but the signal did not get through.......I agree with most of what he has to say, but don't have the need to drone on about it day in and day out........it's tiring to read over and over again.

[JIM-]

Damn Matthew you got SPANKED.

I owned Rolex and NEVER had a problem with the quality. It sucks when you get a bad one but considering their outstanding CS why not just send it in for warranty work? I sold my Rolex and took a hit also and yes that really sucked but it was what I wanted to do. I know you don't want to loss money but unless your willing to hold onto it (be stuck as you put it) for a few yrs you ain't gonna make money or even break even considering the preowned market is bursting with LNIB Rolex.

[MathewJ]

I said I won't have any more of this. - Gedanken

[JIM-]

Originally Posted by MathewJ

I said I won't have any more of this. - Gedanken

Oh man I didn't even get to read the crap that dope wrote before he got banned DAMN. If anyone knows fill me in, I assume he was being negative towards me.

[MathewJ]

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Matthew, don't tell me that you're simply answering posts when you're carrying on in your monotonous diatribes - that's classic passive-aggressiveness, and I'm not going to stand for it. I'll make it clear right here and now that if you persist with this pattern of behaviour, you will not be welcome here.

Before you start pontificating about Rolex naysayers being persecuted, I'm going to head you off by informing you that if I ban you, it'll not be because of anything you say about Rolex, but because I judge that you're hell-bent on spreading your dispositional unhappiness. Put simply, this place is like a pub - people are here to have fun, and I've got no problems escorting you to the door if you're making the customers unhappy.

Go for it, there is always a first for everything.

[Gedanken]

Originally Posted by MathewJ

Go for it, there is always a first for everything.

OK, goodbye.

[Uncle-AJ]

Originally Posted by Gedanken

OK, goodbye.

Well done James. I hope you did it with a boot up his backside.

[JJ Irani]

Well, another one bites the dust....can't say I didn't warn him!!

[Gedanken]

Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

Well done James. I hope you did it with a boot up his backside.

Nah, that space was taken by a piece of coal. Too bad about his early exit - I was hoping to get a diamond out of it.

[Gedanken]

Ah well, the bugger wasn't only being Captain Bringdown, the gravity of his stupidity was bending this place out of shape. This place is way too cool for the likes of him and Amity, as you know, means friendship ...

Whoops, just bought the DVD of Jaws and got my lines mixed up.

[JJ Irani]

JAWS...all time classic....now where the hell is Sharky when you need him?

[Gedanken]

Damn, JJ, that was fast - are you F5ing?

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Damn, JJ, that was fast - are you F5ing?

Fastest finger first....from "Who wants to be a Millionaire?"

[JJ Irani]

Bye, my friends....off to work....7.20 am Friday morning. Have a great day, night or whatever!!

JJ