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Old 29 January 2008, 09:55 AM   #1
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Submariner GMT Ceramic Comparison Photo

I'm thinking about ordering a Submariner from Alan Furman to add to my collection. I have a GMT ceramic and was wondering how it compares to the Submariner in size. None of my AD's have one in stock. I was wondering if anyone had both watches and would be kind enough to post some side by side comparison shots.

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Old 29 January 2008, 10:01 AM   #2
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The bezel sizes are the same, but the GMT IIc wears and looks larger because of its supercase.

I know Mike had some nice comparison shots of the GTM IIc against other models...
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Old 29 January 2008, 10:02 AM   #3
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I will post some as soon as I get home. I took a few of my GMT-c beside my LV
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Old 29 January 2008, 11:49 AM   #4
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Don't have a side by side of the black sub and GMT IIc (I'll work on that).

Here's some of the GMT and LV, and SD,





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Old 29 January 2008, 12:26 PM   #5
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These are not as good as Mike's but here ya go!!!!
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Old 29 January 2008, 01:25 PM   #6
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What do ya'll think the reason for creating a super case are?

It looks a bit beefier, was there a need to strengthen an already strong case?

The curves on the lugs seem less curved on the super, does that change the fit at all?

Even the crown guards are more substantial looking.

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Old 29 January 2008, 07:52 PM   #7
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What do ya'll think the reason for creating a super case are?

It looks a bit beefier, was there a need to strengthen an already strong case?

The curves on the lugs seem less curved on the super, does that change the fit at all?

Even the crown guards are more substantial looking.

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On the contrary. The GMT IIc is the most comfortable Rolex I have ever worn. The low positioned caseback contributes to the great fit.
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Old 29 January 2008, 01:38 PM   #8
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The reason for the new supercase is most likely the recent trend to wear big watches. This depends on your personal taste. I am not aware of the need to strengthen the old case.
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Old 29 January 2008, 01:49 PM   #9
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The crowns on both watches are exactly the same, the TripLock crown.

For you guys that have both, I'd be interested to hear how differently the two watches wear. It's hard to tell just from pics if the fit would be much different, because really they aren't all that much different case diameter wise. The GMT IIc is definitely a substantial watch, but it wears fine on my rather slender wrist.

Just curious.
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Old 29 January 2008, 01:56 PM   #10
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the new Milgauss is a supercase right? Look's more streamlined than the new GMTs. I'm ok with that on a new Sub.
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Old 29 January 2008, 10:46 PM   #11
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the new Milgauss is a supercase right? Look's more streamlined than the new GMTs. I'm ok with that on a new Sub.
The Milgauss is certainly thick. Due in part to the use of the faraday cage.

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Old 29 January 2008, 02:39 PM   #12
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Thanks for the excellent pictures. It does look like the Sub has more taper in the case and it looks like it would wear smaller than the GMT II ceramic.
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Old 29 January 2008, 02:44 PM   #13
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I guess it's just me but I find the super case width to not look as "finished" as the Submariner because of the strap width......seems to fit the Sub better IMHO
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Old 29 January 2008, 03:22 PM   #14
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I alternate between a TT GMT IIc and Sub LV. The GMT feels beefier and a bit heavier but not bulky because it actually seems to sit lower on the wrist. The Sub feels lighter and not as sturdy compared to the new style GMT bracelet. Just my opinions.
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Old 30 January 2008, 05:09 AM   #15
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Thanks for the excellent photos and comments.
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Old 30 January 2008, 06:10 AM   #16
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I just bought a GMT IIc last week and have had a Sub for around 4 years. I wouldn't say one was a great difference from the other feel wise. Unless I think about the differences they feel quite similar. Also, when I look down at the GMT I don't think "damn that's a lot bigger than the old one". The size difference is not noticeable unless they are side by side. The GMT is more comfortable if I am being critical and I think it is because the Sub sits noticeably higher off of my wrist. My GMT is a bit heavier but it also isn't noticeable when wearing because it is closer fitting. On the sub you can almost see the caseback and on the newer design the case almost touches your wrist. These of course are only my observations and these watches might fit you differently.
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Old 30 January 2008, 06:23 AM   #17
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I just bought a GMT IIc last week and have had a Sub for around 4 years. I wouldn't say one was a great difference from the other feel wise. Unless I think about the differences they feel quite similar. Also, when I look down at the GMT I don't think "damn that's a lot bigger than the old one". The size difference is not noticeable unless they are side by side. The GMT is more comfortable if I am being critical and I think it is because the Sub sits noticeably higher off of my wrist. My GMT is a bit heavier but it also isn't noticeable when wearing because it is closer fitting. On the sub you can almost see the caseback and on the newer design the case almost touches your wrist. These of course are only my observations and these watches might fit you differently.
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Old 30 January 2008, 07:00 AM   #18
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A stainless Sub from AF is only discounted $150 and this is a gray watch probably not even from US???

Why not give the business to a US dealer, you could probably even find one to match that price.
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Old 30 January 2008, 08:35 AM   #19
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Here are a couple of pics of mine.







They don't wear very differently, it's really just the lug area at the bracelet and the crown guards that are thicker. I wish they had widened the bracelet to 22mm at the case. and 20mm at the clasp but overall the bracelet is 100% better on the new GMT than the Sub.
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Old 30 January 2008, 08:44 AM   #20
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The GMT IIc is heavier than the Sub (almost like the SD), but it sits lower on the wrist, making it easier to wear under cuffs. Looking at the wrist, though, the GMT is noticeably wider/larger than the Sub due to the supercase.

Vince, Great pics!
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