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Watchcollectables · 7 October 2013, 09:54 PM

I see 1803 Stella dials making around $20k at the last sales at Christies in May. Is this a true representation of their current values. The examples sold were on leather straps and didnt look particularly special.
When did the `Stella` dials actually start and finish as Ive seen a few later case references with the flatter dials described as `Stella ` also.!
Thanks
W C

JustinK · 8 October 2013, 11:02 AM

I am no expert on these but interested to hear more. I have seen them on 1803's and 18038's so I assume they were late seventies early eighties.

I think 20K is crazy as I have seen the dials now and then for 2-3K.

I would love to have a turquoise one for my 18038.

HL65 · 8 October 2013, 11:05 AM

$20k is right price for one on leather strap and what they have been going for at auctions. I have seen them in high teens and loose dials for $5K plus or so from time to time. Clearly some colors and dials more sought after than others and WG more in demand. Cheers,

joe100 · 8 October 2013, 12:07 PM

The Stellas are the best looking DDs ever made.

Watchcollectables · 8 October 2013, 07:01 PM

Are the 1803 pie pan versions the originals in as much as they command the higher prices ? I see a few of the later style with dial feet that maybe are not Stella but described as such !?

Watchcollectables · 30 October 2013, 10:57 PM

Anyone know the answer!!!?

andromeda160 · 30 October 2013, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by watchcollectables

Anyone know the answer!!!?

Pretty sure those are the 18038's mentioned above. I've only seen a turquoise stella dial on the 18038, which to me should be a stone dial and listed next to the onyx/lapis dials

watchcrank · 30 October 2013, 11:16 PM

Sounds about right. I sold my Oxblood stella dial for 6k US last year and my Vignette 18038 with bracelet 85% for about that auction price as dial was not perfect. I wonder how long the prices will rise for mediocre pieces and since there are lots of good re printed dials showing up. I saw a red Stella at the last watch fair that went for a fair price and another in Miami last week so are they really that rare? Pristine examples will always be in demand, others will just be stuff as my watchmaker says. M

Lgear080 · 30 October 2013, 11:43 PM

And with all the new colorized day dates I'd expect some addl movement.

Pricing seems high already, but I've misread the market direction before.

anilzat · 31 October 2013, 12:32 AM

i found a visual example of a stella oxblood dial from network 54 here, it looks cool.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/20767...dial+for+18038

they have a really nice color to them they age really nice.

watchcrank · 31 October 2013, 03:31 AM

Yes, I like them. some have tendency to "crackle" and reduces value but the look is kind of cool. I would think that the stone dials may also rise if the Stella's do. Actually anything that is different seems to over time. M

anilzat · 1 November 2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by watchcrank

Yes, I like them. some have tendency to "crackle" and reduces value but the look is kind of cool. I would think that the stone dials may also rise if the Stella's do. Actually anything that is different seems to over time. M

crackle? whats crackle??

andromeda160 · 1 November 2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by anilzat

crackle? whats crackle??

They crack quite literally. Ive seen quite a few as well, It has Somthing to do with the paint shrinking or Somthing I think, because it literally looks like the dial is separating apart rather than a spiderweb dial jus looking like a dial with a lot of lines through it

r-sj-lex · 1 November 2013, 09:52 PM

1981

anilzat · 1 November 2013, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by andromeda160

They crack quite literally. Ive seen quite a few as well, It has Somthing to do with the paint shrinking or Somthing I think, because it literally looks like the dial is separating apart rather than a spiderweb dial jus looking like a dial with a lot of lines through it

wow that is interesting so are the dials worthless when that happens?

dianariesta · 3 July 2015, 09:09 AM

is this a stella dial? click on the icon for larger picture [IMG]

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Watchcollectables · 1 November 2013, 03:18 AM

Anyone know the answer toy question regarding the 1803 !!!??

mdw3 · 1 November 2013, 06:46 AM

Stella dials should probably technically be found in 1803 models with serial numbers in the 5M range. But they have often been put into other cases, and so legitimate dials are seen across the serial number spectrum now.

Michael

7 October 2013, 09:54 PM	#1
Watchcollectables "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 320	Stella dials I see 1803 Stella dials making around $20k at the last sales at Christies in May. Is this a true representation of their current values. The examples sold were on leather straps and didnt look particularly special. When did the `Stella` dials actually start and finish as Ive seen a few later case references with the flatter dials described as `Stella ` also.! Thanks W C

8 October 2013, 11:05 AM	#3
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,009	$20k is right price for one on leather strap and what they have been going for at auctions. I have seen them in high teens and loose dials for $5K plus or so from time to time. Clearly some colors and dials more sought after than others and WG more in demand. Cheers, __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

8 October 2013, 12:07 PM	#4
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	The Stellas are the best looking DDs ever made. __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

31 October 2013, 12:32 AM	#10
anilzat Banned Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: John Williams Location: Alaska outback Watch: GMT Posts: 1,051	i found a visual example of a stella oxblood dial from network 54 here, it looks cool. http://www.network54.com/Forum/20767...dial+for+18038 they have a really nice color to them they age really nice. Attached Images

3 July 2015, 09:09 AM	#16
dianariesta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: m dian ariesta Location: tanjungpinang Watch: girard perregaux Posts: 13	is this a stella dial? click on the icon for larger picture [IMG][/IMG]

8 October 2013, 11:02 AM	#2
JustinK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Justin Location: Jupiter, FL Watch: 1530,1665,1680 Posts: 2,064	I am no expert on these but interested to hear more. I have seen them on 1803's and 18038's so I assume they were late seventies early eighties. I think 20K is crazy as I have seen the dials now and then for 2-3K. I would love to have a turquoise one for my 18038.

8 October 2013, 07:01 PM	#5
Watchcollectables "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 320	Are the 1803 pie pan versions the originals in as much as they command the higher prices ? I see a few of the later style with dial feet that maybe are not Stella but described as such !?

30 October 2013, 10:57 PM	#6
Watchcollectables "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 320	Anyone know the answer!!!?

30 October 2013, 11:16 PM	#8
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,664	Sounds about right. I sold my Oxblood stella dial for 6k US last year and my Vignette 18038 with bracelet 85% for about that auction price as dial was not perfect. I wonder how long the prices will rise for mediocre pieces and since there are lots of good re printed dials showing up. I saw a red Stella at the last watch fair that went for a fair price and another in Miami last week so are they really that rare? Pristine examples will always be in demand, others will just be stuff as my watchmaker says. M

30 October 2013, 11:43 PM	#9
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	And with all the new colorized day dates I'd expect some addl movement. Pricing seems high already, but I've misread the market direction before.

31 October 2013, 03:31 AM	#11
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,664	Yes, I like them. some have tendency to "crackle" and reduces value but the look is kind of cool. I would think that the stone dials may also rise if the Stella's do. Actually anything that is different seems to over time. M

1 November 2013, 09:52 PM	#14
r-sj-lex Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 176	1981

1 November 2013, 03:18 AM	#17
Watchcollectables "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 320	Anyone know the answer toy question regarding the 1803 !!!??

1 November 2013, 06:46 AM	#18
mdw3 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 677	Stella dials should probably technically be found in 1803 models with serial numbers in the 5M range. But they have often been put into other cases, and so legitimate dials are seen across the serial number spectrum now. Michael

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